Good Grow Box Plan?

Discussion in 'Cannabis Grow Rooms and Greenhouses' started by Kittelstick, Jan 25, 2007.

  1. Kittelstick

    Kittelstick Member

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    I am new to the idea of growing your own pot and was wondering if this guide is satisfactory for growing a plant or two. I have a few questions concerning this guide, however.

    1. How big of HID light do I need for a box of this size?
    2. With the air holes or vents would their be a noticible odor outside of my room? outside of the house?
    3. Is the box design an optimal size for a plant or two?

    Any other suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated. If I'm asking stupid questions then go easy on me, like I said, I'm new. Thanks alot,

    Garrett
     
  2. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

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    First and foremost Garrett you need to read a grow book or 3.
    There's a ton of info you'll need to ensure a successfull grow.
    Many grow books are available free, on-line, or visit your local bookstore.
    Here's the #1 rule of marijuana cultivation: TELL NO ONE.

    To answer one of your Q's:
    Marijuana needs lots of fresh air. It also has a odor, especially during flowering.
    So where the odor goes is up to you. Ideally the exhaust should be vented outside. but that's not always an option and that can prevent problems of it's own.
    There are a number of ways to deal with odor. Air filters/purifiers/ionizers for small grows, ozone generators for larger grows.
    If you exhaust inside, everyone you live with will notice it.

    Growing indoors will change your life. You have to be careful of who visits, and no one can ever go into the room your growspace is in. If they don't notice the smell they will notice the breeze from the ventilation fans, or maybe the intense light coming from under the door, or wonder about the lock on the closet door.

    If you still want to grow inside, you need to read.
     
  3. jimrfc81

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    with all respect to the guy above who posted some good advice but you dont need to buy a book or 3 on growing i know ppl who have grew succesfuly without a book and only used advice from forums but i bought a book and it really makes a difference, as for space when using h.i.d id make sure you have at least 5' head space as the plants will grow at least 3' and taking into account height added by the pot and the fact you need space between the canopy of your plants and the h.i.d (at least a foot and a bit more depended on the strength of yer h.i.d), for 2 plants id say 2' square comfertable, if odour is a prob grow northern lights i grew it and there was next to no smell at all, you will need an extractor fan to bring in fresh (and importantly cooler air) situated at the upper part of yer grow box and a vent hole situated at the lower part of yer grow box in order for the fresh air to be sucked in and id say it was important to have an occilating fan in the room to strengthen the stems by replicating the wind and it also creates air movement which helps fight fungus and such. all the best with yer grow.

    in a loft is ideal for growing as it cancels out a lot of the problems stated in the last post
     
  4. rangerdanger

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    jimrfc81, in the 2nd line of my posts here I said "There's a ton of info you'll need to ensure a successfull grow.", the operative word being ensure.
    Can you grow without a grow book?
    I did. But I had to stumble around and made a lot of mistakes, wasted time & $$, which I could have avoided by simply spending a few enjoyable hours reading.

    Especially for indoor grows I consider a book a growers single most important piece of equipment. It's all there, from growspace design to curing & storage, in one place.
    AND the advice is usually way better that what you may get from some people here and other forums, who may not know shit from shinola when it comes to MJ cultivation.

    And like I stated, if you're poor these guides are FREE. What's not to like about that?
     
  5. Kittelstick

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    Well thanks for all the input, although I must say I appreciated Jimrfc81's non-arrogant advice a smidgin more than yours rangerdanger for the simple reason that I was merely asking a few questions. I'm sorry I'm not an experienced grower. Aside from my interpretation that you are kind of a hard-ass I appreciate both of your comments and advice. I think I will take Jim's advice and go with the northern lights seeds. Lastly, a few more questions,

    1. What site did you order the northern light seeds from?
    2. How many watts does my HID light need to be for say 2-3 plants?

    Thanks to both of you who replied, hopefully I can get just a couple more answers from you.

    Garrett
     
  6. jimrfc81

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    you can get a whole selection from www.everybodydoesit.com they deliver pretty fast, a 400w h.p.s should be plenty good for that amount, its up to yer self but it would be worth your money to buy a book it will go into detail about a lot of stuff and then you can use the forums to ask questions about stuff you dont quite understand and people should be able to clear things up for ya. if you do buy a book i recommend jorge cervantez indoor bible. what materials are you planning on using for your grow box?
     
  7. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

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    Garrett, you could have saved me time & trouble by indicating in your initial post that you're not serious about growing weed.
    You can compare growing weed for the first time with running a maze. You've chosen to negotiate the maze by stopping at every juncture and calling someone (who may or may not know) and asking them which way to turn and waiting days for an answer, when you could have instead picked up a map at the entrance.
     
  8. jimrfc81

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    ya know what would be a good idea ranger? if you lost that big rock on your shoulder and stopped looking down yer snout at people who dont really have a clue about growing, we all have to start somewhere, you want to get a grip n stop trying to sound like the confuciouse of growing n just simply answer someones question, let them make mistakes on their own thats how you really learn.
     
  9. rangerdanger

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    I gave Garrett the best advice I could, garnered from 40 years of experience.
    Sorry I didn't dumb it down enough to suit you.

    I have helped hundreds of people grow weed and will continue to do so.
     
  10. jimrfc81

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    well sorry oh wise and mighty one, thing is you have an attitude problem it makes no difference if youve helped 1 person before or a thousand, yer last comment about dumbing it down just proves my point you think yer a clever **** and to be honest i bet you wouldnt be so fast with that shit face to face with people cos youd get a slap in the mouth with that attitude.


    in future if helping people grow weed is what you want to do try doing it without coming across as a dick
     
  11. rangerdanger

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    Oh dear me look what I've done! Gone and made jimi a potty mouth I did.

    Which goes to show which one of us has an attitude problem.

    Listen sporto I have one distinct advantage over you...I've been doing what I done on-line since '00 and in person for decades before that. I've developed a knack to tell which people will succeed and which will fail.
    And the ones who educate themselves first are the ones most likely to succeed.
    And I will continue helping people MY way, NOT yours.

    Now run along. Go outside and play and leave us grownups alone.
     
  12. T.H. Cammo

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    Some people would rather listen to a sympathetic bonehead than a straight shooting expert!!! Are you here for good advice, or do you want somebody to hold your hand and make you feel all warm and fuzzy? If you want good advice; listen to Ranger - he really knows his shit!!! If you think he's a hard ass; it's probably because a continous stream of newbies, to lazy to read the FAQ's and do thier own research in the older threads, come here looking for the quick, easy, answer. The most simple questions have all been asked and answered - over and over and over again!!!
    If you just want someone who seems more agreeable - get a puppy!
     
  13. masked toker

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    i agree with cammo
    and i think everyone who wants to grow should read a book or 3 if they actually want some good plants

    what happens when the plant gets sick? you cant wait for some forumer's to help you...
     
  14. jimrfc81

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    here! ive listened to plenty straight shooting experts who gave me straight forward advice without the arrogant attitude ( im great and know what im doing never mind i forget where i came from n i was in youre possition at one time) n they helped me to a succesfull grow, no person likes being spoke down to!, thats why i jumped forums as soon as i came across that up on himself wanker to whome i was very polite and respectful at first in regards to this thread, you talk of people who dont do their homework before growing thats where we all come from and thats where learning process begins, i agree with reading books as i done so my self but even if the newbie goes and grows himself and fails they will learn a lot and move on they dont need arse holes putting em off before they begin, weed can be a complicated thing but when it comes down to really getting it right but it is just growing a plant, people can do it without all this shite and get self satisfaction never mind gettin the full potential of their grow and a helpful forum will be enough to guide em through it, they can learn all you know after the ball is rolling and motivation really gets going, if yer only interested in advising on advanced stuff dont comment at all and it would probably be more help. dont get all superior you only grow plants afterall.
     
  15. jimrfc81

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    if your worried about waiting days for answers join another forum! im on forums where i get answers within the hour if not that then a few hours. be bold and try something new if yer insecure.
     
  16. Boscher

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    Rangerdanger knows better than all of you. Just listen to him. Read a book or google for marijuana growing. I've read like 45 of those... most of them contradict eachother but most of the facts needed for growing are all the same.
     
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    Rangerdanger knows better than all of you. Just listen to him. Read a book or google for marijuana growing. I've read like 45 of those... most of them contradict eachother but most of the facts needed for growing are all the same.

    Hint: the grower causes the flowering stage by cutting light from 24/0 (or 18/6) to 12/12. It doesn't do it on its own.

    BOSCHER!
     
  18. masked toker

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    lol what are you talking about? the forums are great, but people can't rely on them, especially when growing weed. growing weed is serious and people should research it before they go balls deep in it
     
  19. rangerdanger

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    Jim, if you believe so strongly in "learning by mistakes", why are you giving out advice at all?


    And btw, I've visited dozens and dozens of culitvation websites (and modded several of them) and never found any where you can get consistant correct advice within a hour or 2.
     
  20. endo602

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    This thread is getting a little out of control. This all started because some rookie asked a couple of fairly dumb questions that he probably could have looked up somewhere in a book or online somewhere else. But 99% of all these questions on this forum can be found in a book! So tell me, what the hell do we have this forum here to begin with? Who gives a shit if it's a stupid question or some advanced one by an experienced grower. If you ask me, most of these so called experienced growers ruin forums like this because their head swells up so big that all they can do is look straight down on the newbie growers and try to make them look inferior. And to Cammo, isn't the idea of these forums to get as many people in here as possible no matter what experience they have? It would take forever for someone to go through all these posts just to make sure no one has asked the same question they have. Don't reply to f'n thing if you're sick of seeing it asked! It's too bad, i used to like all weed smokers because of the chill personalities that they have but this thread has definitly proven me wrong, I've never seen so many snob ass tokers in my F'n life!!!
     

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