US attacks Somalia

wars are started not by soldiers but ideologies


destroy the ideology and end the war

 

destroy the insurgency and end the war.

I know you think your silver bullet argument is foolproof, but I hate to break it to you. It doesn't make sense. This is only hypcrisy in your mind, but you cannot apply that to anybody elses beliefs. Only you believe that if you support the Iraq war that you should go join. Because you believe this, if you in fact supported the war, but did not join, that would make you a hypocrite. Make sense? You had once thouroughly argued this point with Matthew (I believe), and you still do not understand. If somebody does not believe that they should join the war if they support it, they can still support the war and not be a hypocrite by not joining. Understand?

If you do not understand this, let me try to explain this in different context. According to your silver bullet argument, If you support gay marriage, you are a hypocrite if you do not marry someone of the same sex. You do not have to participate in something to support it. It is your argument that is weak and you should stop using it because it is not helping you come across as smart.

 

ahh well warmongers would say this wouldn't they.

if you love war so much and think it so correct - go to it and put your money where your mouth is. by the way this is "hippyland" not "warmongers anonymous"

someone who thinks the war is so damned fine and dandy yet won't go to it may well be both a hypocrite and coward but this is not for me to say - yet.
i'm glad you can justify why you won't go to war whilst your american compatriots are dying by the score. i'm sure whilst hunkered down in the trenches they get a warm fuzzy feeling knowing you are 100 percent them sat at home justifying why you won't join them. then again i'd say most of them were so fanatically indoctrinated even the most bizarre explanations / situations are perfectly logical to them.

if you love this war go to it or sit at home justifying to yourself why shouldn't go.

 

so... when do you join up amigo???

(gay marriage?? we're discussing the war on iraq not the neurosis of the right wing. if you are that way inclined to discuss this, well then if you support same sex so passionately then yes i firmly expect the most ardent of its supporters to get married to stand up for their beliefs. i don't really have any opinion on gay marriage , if people want to open themselves to be savaged by the legal system then so be it.)

 

actually thats pretty funny!

modify the writing so it looks as if i'm holding banner

i think you've captured my essence

 

Hands up who loves this war ?.

 

Maybe you could shrink it in one of microsofts lovely applications. Then slip it into your signature. I tried but failed.

 

as a general rule i object to absurd ideologies rather than individuals

obviously i touched a raw nerve when i pointed out the obvious

if you think this war is so darned righteous then go to it, or maybe its better that some other more expendable people get to die for your beliefs.

(tell me what you make of the situation in israel i'd love to know)

 

The rest of us are still waiting for exact quotes that stated that ANY one of us thought this war was "righteous".

You are the one that was throwing out blanketed nonsense. Don't get mad when people want you to show the support for your (pretty personal and targeted) accusations, theories, and solutions.


Right now, your logic is about as Earthbound as the idiots who tell anti-Bush people to "Love it or Leave!" .

 

i'm always happy when the gang gets together to prove me wrong

ok i say the war in iraq is wrong, we should not have troops over there.

america should never attacked iraq

there never were WMD's

america should never have supported saddam hussein and then complain when he used those weapons.

there i've said what i think about these subjects ??

(ps tell me what you think of israel)

what say you?

please address all howls of protest to this thread in the next future

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216879

this is where i will be to debate this issue - will you??

 

Difference of opinion.

Ok i say the war in Iraq is right, we should have troops over there.

Never ?. Even if [in your eyes] all the ts were crossed and all the is dotted ?.

America should have Invaded Iraq. It should not have if Iraq was in compliance with UN resolutions [obviously].

There were it is very well documented. The question was: Did he still have them ? Did he still the have the will to use them [if he had them in operation] ? Why was he dragging his feet complying with resolutions ? Where are the weapons that have not been accounted for ? Will we ever have a full and complete list of all the weapons he ever had ?.

It was not 'support' it was allowing him to do what most goverments do.
When the west was 'allowing' Saddam to join the rest of the international community he was supposedly being given enough 'trust' to do the right thing. He did not. Hence the eventual removal of Iraq from the 'good nation list' if you will.

Congratulations.

Troubled.

 

"Ok i say the war in Iraq is right, we should have troops over there."

Ok...I say....your an idiot.

 

I'll just go and find a post where i disagree with you and call you a idiot shall i ?.
No that would be rude. Disagree with me or agree with me.

BUT:

Grow up for christ sake.

 

why does everyone forget about the other 20+ nations?

those weapons? which ones, WMD?

 

I never forget those other nations.

 

erm... cadcruzer..

if you are going to crticise my posts you should at least read them

i'm over at the other thread and that goes for all the other war apologists who won't go and fight. please come over the waters fine!

 

erm......

 

ahh you've finally read my posts but you still haven't gained the meaning from them

i'm at the other thread as stated before!!

here's a taster

reuters...

Slovaks pull soldiers from Iraq,PM says war wrong
Fri 2 Feb 2007 10:23 AM ET

BRATISLAVA, Feb 2 (Reuters) - Slovakia has pulled its troops out of Iraq, Prime Minister Robert Fico said on Friday, branding the war there "unjust and wrong".

The withdrawal of 110 Slovak army engineers fulfilled one of the leftist Fico's top campaign promises in a June 2006 election in which he beat the centre-right administration of Mikulas Dzurinda.

By pulling out, Slovakia joins fellow European Union nations Spain and Italy that also withdrew troops from Iraq following a government change.

Slovakia supported the U.S.-led military campaign in Iraq under Dzurinda, but Fico has long opposed Slovakia's presence there and his government agreed in October to withdrew its forces.

"The war in Iraq is unbelievably unjust and wrong," Fico told a news conference.

The Slovak soldiers are now in Kuwait and are preparing for a trip home, the Defence Ministry said.

"The entry of foreign armies into Iraq has caused huge tensions. To speak about any democracy in Iraq is a fantasy," Fico said.

"The security situation is catastrophic... and if somebody wants to say today that the situation there has improved, it would be a lie."

 

Guy, what does that post have to do with this discussion? As far as I'm aware, nobody has claimed that decisions made concerning the Iraq War are not politically charged.