Seeing In Higher Dimensions On LSD

Very true, someone said somewhere that all we really know about these other dimentions is that string theory requires them to work. I wouldn't say that string theory will always remain a theory; those sorts of statements are extremely foot-in-mouth. We simply don't have the technology yet to test what predictions have been made. The newest particle accelerator that has been built should be powerful enough to start making some headway on some of the preditions made.

 

Exactly I mean, even though not every piece of the puzzle can be directly observed, once you've got a few pieces down, the only logical conclusion is that the other pieces of the puzzle must be true.

How else do you think scientists can be so confident and in full agreement about the precise history of the universe from the smallest fraction of a second after the big bang? Not something I've really read up on, but since it can only have been deduced from what we can observe around us in the universe today, that's pretty mind-boggling

 

I like to think that every molecule could contain it's own universe I guess perception of other dimensions is so hard to imagine because of our inherit ability to pick up on measured distance, or time if you will. Like matter being infinitley measurable both larger and smaller, zero and negative tends to block that mental picture

 

While tripping with my friend who did it first time... he OF course was amazed by the effects of mushrooms and kept asking with big eyes " how many dimensions are there " ???? But In REALITY there are infinite number of them....

 

or maybe REALITY is trans-dimensional?

 

Video makes me wonder how shitty other versions of me are livin

 

they'd prob doing the same though

 

I don't know about different deminsions in this case but the other night i was huffing ether, and went fucking insane for a little while. I can't explain it very well but i'll try. At first i felt myself slipping away on a lop belt of some sort. Then when i reached a certain point on that belt i would bulge off into a little bubble, then transfer back to the belt. My first reaction to this was panic. I was like, "fuck! have i completely lost my mind?" Then i was able to calm myself down by telling myself that if i am going insane that freaking out will not help me. I don't remember anything after that, and i'm supprised i remember that much.



Has anyone else had such an experience with ether? I've had similer things happen after a large dose of salvinorin A.

 

Yes. Ether brings me to a 2d world where i can still more in 3d. It's often scary as fuck because you think you are going insane. The key is to move the rag off the face before you go to that private little universe.

 

By that point i can't even tell whether it's still on my face or not, lol.

Thats not the only time this has happened to me with ether. It also happened to me once out in the woods. I accedintly fell against my friend ryan, and melted into him on a giant gear. It scared the shit out of me!

 

desert nightmare, that reminds me of an experience i had with salvia, too. I've never had ether.. but anyway, on the salvia I felt like i was like the inside of a pipe facing inward... all i can see is the other side of the pipe in front of me. It was a dark shiny brown color. Then i start spinning around the inside of the pipe, controlling the spinning at first, but then going out of control, faster and faster. All during this I had no concept reality, self, or memory. I could only see. no other senses existed. No thoughts except a feeling of absolute terror.
haha. I didn't fuck my mind so bad again until LSD. but lsd was really a whole different kind of mindfuck.

back on topic... I never experienced beyond third dimension. and i think in this discussion its pointless to call time a fourth dimension. We're talking about spatial dimensions, after all. In some abstract thought, it is useful to notice similarities between time and space, but time is also very different. Never let generalizations by common traits trick you into believing two items of a category are identical. You can't find the weight of two apples by weighing only one. Anyway, I really think that beyond the third dimension probably is not a visually conceivable concept no matter what chemical is in your brain. Think of a one or two dimensional universe. I think the 2 dimensional thing we can do ok, perhaps even more natively than the 3rd dimension, in fact... but i can't picture a one dimensional universe. It's just not something our visual thought is designed to handle. try to visualize an infinitely thin line without visualizing any empty space around it.

 

Stop trying to visualize other numbers of dimentions in terms of our own world, and you might make some headway.

Why should time not be seen as a dimention? When you see trails on acid, what you are seeing is essentially the fourth dimention (that of time). Imagine a slice of bread as one moment in time, and whatever happened in that frame of reference is a snapshot of reality; combine the whole loaf and you have your movie of reality.

 

Neuronaut: that is the best analogy I have read, ever.

 

Yeah i had contact with God. and i felt like "inside information" was given to me, i also felt like i was seeing the world from gods perspective. interesting thing is, i never used to be in to faith, but i can distinctly remember that it wasn't beliveing, it was KNOWING God existed, while peaking.

that was the coolest experience i have had so far

 

No offense but how does that corelate to this thread? I'm not going to say you didn't see god but i'm not going to believe in god until i see the basterd.

 

Thank you, but it is not my own. I got it from a book called The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene. He also wrote another book, Fabric of the Cosmos; both books are about the nature of reality and cosmology and have a lot to do with quantum physics and string theories and whatnot. Very, very readable books, written by someone who has a unique talent for being able to grasp the complex mathematics (he has all sorts of degrees on the subjects, and actually works in the field of particle physics) and at the same time be able to "dumb it down" in such a way that he's still giving you all the complexity but without you knowing it. Essentially, he's the link between the cutting edge of the field and the layman, both are very good books.

I would have to say that both of those, but The Fabric of the Cosmos more than the Elegant, influenced that experience I shared here about projecting myself into a space that was representative of more dimentions than we see here.

 

i think all that stuff with dimentions beyond 3rd and maybe 4th arent really dimentions at all. infact im pretty certain thats its perposterous to think other wise.i mean come on. the only way you could go beyond 3d with be like, "inward" like, into another dimention oh. i get it. 2d and 3d isnt the same as the dimentions your talkinga bout?

 

I suggest reading up on string theory, that will help you to understand how things can be "how they are" in a much different way than we experience it. It's kind of like asking "how can there be more to the light spectrum if all I can see are these colors?" There may not be a direct way of experiencing these other dimentions but that does not mean that they're not there.

Imagine a garden hose or rope stretched between two points viewed from a distance. One would normally think of it as a one-dimentional issue - left and right, correct? Now consider an ant walking that rope or into the garden hose - it has two dimentions in which to walk, left/right and the circumference of the rope/hose. Now consider a fly flying into the hose - he has three dimentions in which to travel, left/right, the circumference and up/down in the hose.

The point is to help conceptualize how other dimentions could be coiled up so small that we don't experience them; they are not exactly biologically useful for us on a macro scale.

Going beyond the third dimention is actually not hard to think about, and is actually already said to be a concrete dimention - the temporal dimention. This is fairly easy to see when on LSD/Psilocybin; it manifests itself as trails or tracers. What you are seeing is the path that something took to get to where it is now, the time dimention. If we could see the temporal dimention your existence growing up would appear as a snake, tube sort of thing with you as an infant on one end and the current you on the other, connected all throughout showing your growth. Of course this would be quite a phenomenon to deal with, so we see each moment fall away in time, which flutters back to us as a memory.

I think there was a video posted somewhere in this thread about "imagining the 10th dimention" or something like that, it's a pretty cool video if you can follow it. Some of the stuff in the middle is sort of confusing but near the end it makes a good summary of starting with one dimention (a single point) and ending at the 10th dimention (which, taken as a single point itself encompasses all of what can be said to exist, ever, all throughout Time).

While not all of the theories have been proven or will work out in the end, much of this is mathematically worked out and awaiting experimentation. To say that it's PREposterous to think otherwise, is actually the preposterous position to take. After all, at the end of the 19th century there was a feeling among scientists that we had discovered all that was to be discovered and that the only task left at hand was to categorize everything. How wrong they were, huh?

 

Time isnt even real your seeing space.