Black holes? and time travel

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I believe we're approaching the basic rules of reality at that point.


It's all a tendency to reorganize to original chaos.

Maybe there are other ways that humpty-dumpty can be put back together again?

But he certainly insist on being re-assembled!

 

I don't understand. Reason of/for what?

 

Shaggie

What is the definition of change [motion]

The NOW exists...It changes.
The Now you call NOW is not the same as 10 seconds ago.
10 seconds ago is what the Now was. before it became the existent NOW.

Not definition oftime is required.
The change between the Now that was, and the NOW.
Is driven wholely by existent objective laws.
[newtonian and einsteinian]
Mater/energy/space operate by laws we have some understanding of.
The NOW changes, and that change can be defined by our understanding of the laws of motion.
We have no need for a theory of time...
Time IS change.
Change IS motion.

The 'speed' of that change is governed by einsteinian relativity.

Time.. Can be explained without contradiction... By motion.

Who can show that motion is driven by anything but newtonian/einsteinian laws?...
If you cannot. Then Time IS motion.

Occam

 

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Time - A Set "known" unto relative objects.

Time can exist only in our mind, as if their is nothing to base it off of, it cannot exist.
Now exists only because we have a past,
we have a past only because we recognize now,
the future is something we only dream of,
the future is what we plan on doing when "now" comes at that point,

And Yet... Time is still relative.

 

Shaggie.

Time

Is the word you use to define different states of the NOW.
Those states exist because of change.

Change happens due to motion.
Time is the 'process of motion'

Occam

[and the 'rate' of that process is governed by einsteinian law.
Relative to the SOL.]

 

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Shaggie

Why is there no need for a definition of either if two words mean the same thing?
Time/Motion. To occam are the same thing. And he HAS a definition.
Just as you do.
For WHAT is MOTION to you?

The same as 'time' is to occam.

"Then we can replace 'motion' with 'rate of motion' and not have an independent definition of what determines rate. This doesn't answer the question either. We can replace the word 'time' with 'entropy' and say time is the increase in entropy. Then one has to explain what governs the rate at which entropy increases, which involves an explanation of time."

What is 'rate of motion' ... That which is a variable according to einsteinian theory.
As a variable. A variable linked to the SOL.
Then rate of motion can be accurately defined.

We cannot replace the word time with entropy.
Entropy is a function of the process motion/time.
As are many other things.
Entropy happens because motion happens.
Not the other way round.

There is no ACCURATE human definition of time/motion.

Occam says time is motion, driven by the objective laws that govern motion.
He may be speaking out his arse.
But no-one seems to be able to find the mysterious thing called time.
Occam proposes that this is because time is just a different word for,
Motion.

We look for 'time' because the word sounds cool...
But as far as occam can see, exists only as a word...

Occam

PS...

And please remember. No mater/energy we know of is 'still'
There is NOTHING in reality we can point to that is not in motion.
From leptons to galactic superclusters...
ALL is moving....

PPS.'Rate of motion ' in quantum uncertainty. Rate =0
0 exists....ask the mathematicians.

 

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time travel is, in my opinion, impossible because I don't believe that time exists. it's just an illusion of sorts.

 

Luckily, time exists whether or not you believe it...

 

Time is not a dimension because it does not exist...It is an absolute....But only as asbsolute as our comprehension of it.

Big head here think's.....That Einstien was taken too literally. In his time the only sensible description was "speed of light". Really as there is no such thing as time, it would be better if we could apply modern technology and modern minds to add another another description for "speed of light"....such as "cause and effect on moving matter"..............

Glad to ave you back Gecko

 

Look at Einstein's work on redshifts and blueshifts, this is a practical application of the speed of light to matter in motion. Also look at Hawkings work on black holes for the relation to perceived time and actual time.

Time exists within the bounds the first three dimensions, not as an extra dimension, therefore time is as real as the normal three dimensions.

 

No... it IS a dimension, it just cannot be separated from the other three.

 

I dont think we can move back or forth in time bcuz time isnt natural. Time is the scale, we humans have created to measure the "observable" movements within nature.Therefore time is just like mathematics.you cant eat the numbers and you cant talk about eating the number 5, so that 6 wouldnt exist.

 

Time is a perception... The only way to SEEM to travel back in time is to completely reverse the laws of the universe so everything goes exactly backwards... BUT... if you did that, time would still be moving fowrward..

ie... if a train was moving forward from point A and all of the sudden reversed it's motion at point B... it would not return to point A at the same time that it left point A even if it seemed that way... right? if you went back in time, your perception of past, present, and future stay the same

 

We, as humans, might not be able to move back and forth in time, but it doesn't mean time is human created. It definitely is not.

 

I think in the context of this thread time is a simple physical category.
To understand some physical phenomenon we need the concept of time.