For people who have done Both LSD and Shrooms

Yesterday i did some shrooms. A 3.5 of crazy shrooms. Anyways The beggining of the trip was enjoyable alot of euphoria couldnt stop laughin. After A while i got a pain in my stomach lik i almost wanted to throw up. I didnt, it was almost like yur when yu get dizzy n yu feel lik barfing. Next morning got a pretty big headache. Now what i want to know is LSD is it the same. Like For the people who have done both witch do you find gives more stomach problems. And witch is more euphoric, like the whole trip. My shroom trip was euphoric in the beggining then got low like non active i felt like sitting. Can anyone help me please. I also noticed that my pupils arent really noticable dilated so its good i can trip wenever. thx

 

LSD made me feel sick for a few minutes, and I power puked on shrooms once, only because I drank some orange pop. they both make me giddy, pretty much the whole time, depending on whats going on/being said. Beginning and end of the trips are where I laugh the most.

 

Shrooms to me seemed more euphoric and more giddy, but less enlightening. Also, LSD lasts longer (which is circumstantially cool). I don't get nauseated with either, though I seem to hear that shrooms are harsher on most peoples stomachs.

 

I think the reason it makes your stomach hurt is because these psychedelic chemicals are very related to seritonin (a neurotransmitter in the brain), and seritonin is produced mostly in the stomach region. So the chemical that is similar to sertonin may disrupt the signal messages in the nervous nets in some peoples stomach more then others. In your case it may have just been that the shrooms upset your stomach because of sending a false signal to your higher cerebral functions causing you to think you're nausiated, but you're really not.


That's the problem with psychedelics in thats sense. Because they can really fuck up the way your brains normal sequencing of chemical messages works. Thats one main reason Psychedelics are either loved or hated. Heaven or hell. They can send and recieve false messages from all over the brain. One of theses drugs could trigger an unordinary chain reaction of chemicals that can either make you extremely happy, or in fucking hell. It varies.

 

mushrooms for me have always been a much more intense body high. i feel a lot more giddy, euphoric and laugh a lot more.

LSD gives me a lot more visuals. and while both make me think A LOT, it only bothers me on LSD near the end since it lasts so long and i just want it to end. i personally always give myself a mind fuck at the end of an acid trip, its bad. haha.

and as for indigestion, ive never felt sick on either. so im not one to ask.

and also, for me LSD is a much more controlled and focused trip. on mushrooms i can never focus and do what i want. i always end up on a couch watching some movie and laughing my ass off.

 

if you're talking about high quality mushrooms, i can make a comparison. mushrooms are better for closed eye trips, and shouldn't be taken lightly. LSD is better for action-making memories, though heavy doses of either will strip away one's ability to function socially. a mushroom trip also seems to flow much more consistantly while an LSD trip seems to come in waves.

 

^^ I love those waves

 

Mushrooms make you nautious because your body doesn't break down the material that well, serotonin is produced mostly in the brain; I don't think the nausea is at all related to serotonin production. Tripping doesn't even really mess with levels of that chemical, it binds to the same or similar receptors and somehow that makes you trip. I do agree somewhat though, you might feel some sort of pain or discomfort and feel it as a different sort of pain.

There will always be a lot of difference in how people experience these drugs, but (and correct me if I'm wrong) it seems as though the best way to generalize is that LSD builds up while mushrooms take down. What I mean by that is that while on LSD you will likely feel like everything makes sense; thoughts and concepts come together to the point where you're understanding basically everything you can think about at the same time. On the other hand, mushrooms take concepts apart into their constituent parts, if I had to describe my mushroom trips in one words I would choose "confusion" without hesitation.

I'd agree about the acid trip coming in waves (except when I ate a tenstrip, that was a constant up with a few plateaus until the peak, peaked for like....3 hours hardcore and then started coming down over the next say about 12-13 hours) but with mushrooms I think that saying "consistent" is a bit misleading. My first time my buddy and I were exploring the fun house that was my basement, watching all sorts of light displays on the ceiling and walls and all that - very visual. Suddenly we found ourselves in a world that didn't make sense, communication came apart (except for writing on the paper I had taken out of the printer...I devised a game that took on a mind of its own) and there was just general confusion about everything. That's not very consistent. I think the word you were looking for is constant - you step on and it WILL NOT stop...and then it does. But you KNOW when it's over, unlike acid where you think "shit, I guess I'm done for tonight...<goes to drive car...sits in drivers seat> HOLY SHIT I'M NOT DONE YET!!"

Acid was way more euphoric, less visual, more controllable and what was learned was more immediately obvious. Mushrooms were confusing, giddy (different than euphoric, but similar), way more out of control, FAR more visual and the benefit that was gained out of that was not so obvious right away.

About the issue of getting sick...lemme tell you a lil story. One thursday afternoon I didn't have anything to do after about 2:30 and I had maybe a little less than an ounce of shrooms left. I decided, hey why don't I trip it'll be really fun and when I'm done it'll be time to drink tonight. So I divided out what my two friends would need, what I was gonna eat with them that night, and what would be left over to give to someone else who wasnt sure he wanted any. There were a lot of stems and I figured that stems couldn't bee that potent and people wouldn't want stems, so I had a few. And while I was organizing the caps I was gonna give out I had a few of the smaller ones. And then I had a handful of stems - "If I'm gonna trip tonight, I might as well TRIP, why not?"...MORE stems. A few more caps. Ok three more caps. Last two. Another handful of stems. "Holy crap, this shit is getting hard to choke down...peanut butter sandwich would be cool." Eat sandwich - about halfway through have THOSE BURPS that are a lil off...nah no problem. Start talkin to buddy - are they hangin out in the dorm? Yeah, come over - friendude I love you. Why? Cuz its THURSDAY AFTERNOON and youre TRIPPIN. Cooool, giddy, this is gonna be great - its great already, whatll happen when it all kicks in, theyre gonna think this is so funny but they wont even understand how funny it could be...Why dont I make ramen noodles? Put noodles in, go outside and get movie from chick - she already has shit on her face, talk about how funny talkin about directions of buildings can be....mushrooooooms. Get about three bites out of the noodles and gag on the fourth - maybe I should chill on this a lil bit, eat it at their dorm. Spoof of Rockin the Suburbs is on, from the credits of Over the Hedge that I had had on the TV, cuz the history of Nazi Germany that was on was NOT cool - this spoof is SO FUNNY...I'm such a strange person but THATS FUN and my friends love it...time to go.

Put on jacket - what an amazing combo, this sweatshirt and jacket go together PERFECTLY, I look so cool in it. Grab bowl of noodles with shrooms - will anyone ask about them? Afraid of responding "no, it's not noodles its mushrooms in there." oh well....arent these stairs supposed to be on the other side? LOL I'm already disoriented. Outside - tongue ring feels cool on my lips - what a nice addition. LOL again, literally, like my tongue piercing is a toy...but it is. Concrete and other objects that dont have their own color starting to take on other color, seeing buildings in a different way. Thinking about what brought me to this point...met that one chick, smoked pot, went to college and decided to trip - is there FATE? There's a lot more of these buildings that you can see if you just look at it the right way. My bookbag ALWAYS sits the wrong way [accidentally pulled it a way I normally didn't] WOAH..hey keep walking, think and walk. The bookbag always feels like its on the wrong way, the straps aren't even but maybe I've just been wearing it unevenly, it could be right if I'd just break out of the normal routine...WONDERMENT, life is good, i AM NOW ME AS I WANTED ME TO BE....and now I'm here. I'll tell them "holy crap, I'm still comin up and i've already done all the work I need to - I've figured out what I was gonna and I get to enjoy the rest of this...

Walk in the dorm and get someone to activate the elevator. Phone rings - who is it? Why did I make a photo id thing, I cant see this shit... Who's calling? Uh...its G..did you just walk in?' Yeah howd you know? Dude...turn around. I can't see you!" (Am I really trippin that hard? can you trip that hard without knowing that youre trippin that hard?) Take two steps to your left.. I SEE YOU!! Sit there and talk, whos drinkin tonight, whats bein drank...maybe I shouldnt drink tonight. Blahblahblah - the life science building looks odd, theres more of it than people notice....and I already dont feel like me. The old me is gone, this new me is more fun...Turn in paper, cya later when we're drinkin, be safe with those noodles. They're not noodles, theyre shrooms with noodles in th...shit.

When I get in there, I'm gonna say somethin really strange and they'll laugh cuz I'm trippin and I always do something odd when I walk in. Open door...they all look...LAUGHTER. I can't stop laughing. I can't laugh hard enough - use more air. Screaming - wow, I'm laughing so hard that i'm screaming at the same time. THIS ROCKS. dude - SIT DOWN. I can't yet, this is so amazing. Ok...calm down, sit down, watch star wars. I had thought that Twon might wanna get a little taste before saturday, maybe he would wanna eat these noodles cuz i cant finish them - Twon I dunno why I thought youd wanna eat these, you gotta be responsible soon - confusion. Did I say something wrong? Dude I dont have anything to do but drink tonight........was G in here earlier? OH G WAS THE ONE GOIN TO CLASS?!?!?! The MOST EXTREME laughter I have ever heard anywhere, this hilarity is all-encompassing, all there is is confusion and that means that all there is is laughter cuz being confused is funny and Twon doesnt have to go to class OH MAN THIS IS AWESOME I LOVE EVERYTHING.

The phone rang. LAUGH REALLY HARD! On his phone I hear my friend tellin his girlfriend "oh nothings wrong, its just ___ trippin his balls off" I must be REALLY high, otherwise they wouldn't talk like that...Then the girl who called walked in the room and that was even funnier than the phone, after staring at her for a second and she made a funny face at me, like a five year old. Did she really make that face?

Maybe I should chill out so they can watch the movie, dont wanna ruin their evening. Sit down and watch...should Twon eat these? "What's taking you so long, EAT EM UP!" I'm eatin, don't worry, it's fine. Egh...shrooms taste gross. And I'm really full of that shit - EAT EM TWON!!....maybe I should drink something. Open bookbag and get the two liter that was in her....where is it? Can't find it, can't find it - What's wrong ___? I can't find the two liter in here. We'll get it dont worr FOUND IT. Hold it up and look at - who the hell is that? I DON'T RECOGNIZE ME! This is gonna be awesome. If only I didn't feel so full. Take a sip or two...my head is IN THIS HOOD! More laughter, til the inside of the hood is soaked from tears. This outfit is so awesome, all the colors go together and look at how soft and supple that material is, everything is so perfect...I feel so full. The mirror reflects extra space, there is more room in that space. What's goin on right now ____? Star wars special effects are comin out of the TV....WHAT?? Dude, I'm never doing that. Should I keep eating this? Yeah man its cool, dont worry I just ate a whole lot....woah I ate a whole lot, and its warm in here. Wait I'm still wearin my jacket...

I'm so full. I feel like if I could get all this out I would feel better. I tell them "I feel like I might throw up" Better to let them know right? Do you need to throw up now? I dunno, I feel like I'd feel better if I did but I dont know if I should. Well whatever, let us know. Do I need to throw up, am I going to? Is that going to be scary - WHATS GOING ON? Dude...you don't look so good. I really think I'm gonna throw up. Do you need to? I DONT KNOW! Should I? Do you need to go to the bathroom? I DONT KNOW - can I throw up in here? If you need to. Should I go to the bathroom? If you want to. ....maybe if I just calm down, drink some water...Dude I need to go to the bathroom, I'm gonna throw up. Uh...ok go ahead. Take me there, I can't remember where it is (it was across the hall and I knew the code with my eyes closed)

Bathroom. Tiles..everythings shifting, but staying still at the same time. This wouldnt be so bad if I could just see the visuals I'm seeing I CANT SEE THIS SHIT. Nausea, but AM I GOING TO THROW UP?! I can't throw up, this won't come out this isn't like alcohol where you just bed over. The reflection of me in the bowl water isnt even symmetrical, let alone I cant even see me at all. Groups of tiles are moving around and the grout is shiny, glowing, but also normal. This is sorta cool, its all about the whole experience right...this music is so depressing...SOOO WRONG, TOOOOO LATE...i don't want to hear something this depressing right now. THROW UP DAMNIT! Maybe if I act like I'm going to - gag it out. A little comes out, but not enough. My whole body feels wavy, like the visuals had earlier before i stopped being able to see it so easily. But with my body...I dont just feel dizzy, dizzy is just when your head is spinny - my whole body is moving as through more dimensions than we have here, not all going the same way at the same time - hold on for dear life GRAB THAT HANDICAP ROD! Do I have to poop too? HOW DO I DO THIS? What if I puke while Im shitting - what if someone comes in here and sees puke all over...am I gonna get in trouble? What if all of this isnt even happening right now, what if Im in the room still laughing my ass off still and i just have some gas? What if I piss my pants? Maybe this is over...but I dont know what to do, I wish someone would come check on me and tell me its over, its just a joke, youl lbe fine, where have you been we're missin you....door opens, footsteps...."____, you ok dude?" where is that sound comin fro...he's pokin his head over the stall HOW FUNNY! "you almost done in here?" I think so, but I cant really tell. I didnt know how to sound, so I sounded laughy, maybe this isnt that bad. "dude come back in the room sittin in the bathroom isnt fun" No its not, this will be fine, water and Ill be alright. Still trippin pretty hard, effects coming out of the tv again - I dunnno if you should eat this shit Twon....what? I mean its kinda dangerous...sheepish look...i mean youll be fine, i just ate a lot. Well how much did you eat? I dunno dude, A LOT i think. Well how many..whatevers? Oh shit..they dont even know what part you eat, let alone how to deal with this - better let em know whats up - Ok guys listen; I ate a lot of shit tonight, im gonna be a liability for quite a while, I NEED GUIDANCE TONIGHT...tell me what to do. I feel kinda sick again...But dude, youre having a good time. Am i? YES! you're lovin it, laughin, all that. Yeeeah...havin a good time. But I still feel sick sorta, maybe this wasnt a good idea...maybe I need something to do, like make a hemp bracelet. Twon - wanna go on an adventure?? Wait...are you havin a good time? HELL yeah dude! You are? YEAH, this shits awesome. OHHH! well cool, that makes me feel better, but listen, you think we could make it to my dorm and get some shit so I have something to do? Yeah man, you think youre up for it? Yeah just gimme some water...stand up...sipsip sip sip...You dont look so good man, you look like you did earlier. Yeeeeah, i dont feel good again. Maybe you should sit back down. Good idea

Sit down, feel nauseous, check out bathroom, look at me in the mirror - this is the new me. Back to room, sipsip, feel sick, wait it out, check out bathroom, poop this time I hope I'm not actually in the room pissin my pants sipsip feel sick bathroom can I poop this time what if I throw up mirror sip nausea sipsip dude I dont htink I can drink tonight no thats not a good idea just sit there and wait bathroom mirror will my mom find out nausea sipsip bathroom i hope im not actually pissin my pants when will this stop - do you need to go to the hospital? DO NOT DO THAT TO ME NOW - bathroom sipsip nausea hold on for dear life mirror - thats the new me, do you like you? Am i actually crazy, and im just now seeing this? should I talk about my insecurities or will i regret that later? Did i piss my pants, i think i did - am I crazy? Yeah youre crazy, fuckin mushroomsacid man, go sit in the bathroom for another five minutes and then come back in here...wait - i'm not doin anything in the bathroom? No, youre fine - - - I am, this is cool, shit just doesnt make sense - i hope im not actually running around outside about to get hit by a car. Dont let me go outside - reality is GONE but you wanted this to happen bathroom what if my mom finds out do you know where you are? i can name the city with a bit of thinking, i know im in a dorm room, you are..names come with a fair amount of thinking, but NOTHING MAKES SENSE. When did this happen, how long have i been trippin i cant even read a clock and i dont remember when this started, i know that i ate mushrooms and i understand now how they can be dangerous - whats real, am i here will my mom find out am i going to get in trouble? DUDE - how the hell would your mom find out? red faced...oh yeah...

I don't feel sick anymore, sit there and just experience...watch them play smash bros. Whos who? I still cant tell whos controlling which characters and which are computers...and now theyre not even talking in sentences that make sense, those words dont go together - why did Twon just stand up walk to the door and sit down? Why did AJ just do a piruette? did they actually do that? why cant they talk right? Oh food? ill come down, im not hungry....WHY CANT ANYONE WALK IN A SENSIBLE MANNER? am I walkin straight or just standing there? am i being normal? Why do i feel like im always in the way? Everyones happy..and im just confused - mushrooms are awesome. Back up stairs - James comes back - how is he? OH im just fine, thanks for askin me dude. Sorry, didnt know if you were back yet. Wheres G and Katherine? Showering? wow, i didnt know theyre lesbos...man Twons datin a lesbo, that must be awesome. Cigarette. wheres g and katherine? SHOWERING. Twons havin fun with this, hes leanin up against a wall and feels like hes fallin backwards...and i still dont feel like me, who am i i really still dont look familiar in the glass standing feels awkward i dont know how to stand...im being so quiet, maybe i should say something...DUDE...what is it man, what are you talkin now? Im so trippin man...laughter - apparently im king of understatements now. back in the room - wheres g and kathe--SHOWRING, for the LAST TIME! They walk in - are you back yet ___? YES I AM! and IM READY TO DRINK!! im laughing again, like before, but are they gonna let me drink now that all that happened? g will give me a shot, shes always got extra......

Turn to kathy, shes always fun - dude...that was so amazing. Id do it again in a second. Lets do that againt next week. YOU SERIOUSLY ARE CRAZY ___, do you even remember what just happened to you? You hated it...but dude, it was so amazing


BEING SICK SUCKS. Seriously I cannot imagine how it could get worse. Literally NOTHING made sense at all, one part that I couldn't put in there cuz i dont remember when i said it was that i couldnt tell if i was alive...maybe thats when they asked me about goin to the hospital? Couldnt tell if i was sick, if i was going to throw up, if i should throw up in the room, if i needed to throw up, how many times i went into the bathroom, how long i was in there, what i should do, where i was, what i was actually doing...

I'd estimate that it was about 15 grams, and even that is a conservative estimate. It's quite possible that it was more than that. Sorry about the length, got a bit carried away with the story telling...

 

yeah, constant is a much better word for it. as for that story, 15 g's? how the hell did you handle bein' around people at all? i took 7 g's of some very high grade shrooms and fully accepted that i was dying because my cat looked at me funny. sucks about all the circular thought bein spent in the bathroom though. funny-i spent most of that trip in the bathroom too. seems safer i guess.

 

damn, my first time i took 7g's and spent almost all my time in my room in the dark listening to music. was fucking wonderful! never puked on shrooms though.

 

Ah, the ole acid vs. shrooms comparision... no one will ever agree on this. I've heard countless people talk about how shrooms are more relaxing and mellow and just as many talk about how shrooms are far scarier because they are so confusing. It's so subjective.

Serotonin is not produced in the stomach... geez... shrooms make you sick because your stomach can't break down the fungus too well, unless of course you mean the actual trip just made you feel so weird that you became sick, and if that is the case then both shrooms and acid certainly have that capability.

Shrooms have more visuals, but they are less detailed and less realistic.
Shrooms make you lethargic and confused, whereas acid is a stimulant and makes your thoughts crystal clear.
Shrooms seriously impact your motor skills, whereas acid strangely does not (as a puppeteer above your own body you somehow maintain great control).
Shrooms last about half as long.

I think these are the only differences that anyone can objectively agree on.

 

How did I handle that at all? Cuz these people were my best friends...I left out the part where I got all sentimental about it. It was pretty funny, my friend's girlfriend was like "oh no, here we go..." and i had to explain DUDE it's all part of this experience - you guys are awesome.

I guess that how much I ate is equivalent to what some of the rest of you have eaten, through my experience I've found that I'm a lot less sensitive to psychedelics.

And yes, certain components are produced in the gastrointestinal tract, though I don't think the stomach is where it actually happens. I'd agree though, the sick feeling comes from your body not knowing what to do with the fungus. Only thing is...why don't you get that from regular edible mushrooms?

 

Bathrooms are wicked when you are trippin'.

 

Bathrooms are hilarious!! the mirror is crazy! i love how clowny I look on acid though.
I personally prefer acid. some dont because of the stik 9 that makes you grind your jaw and feel like your back is breaking. I love that though. I love tripping so hard the world is just a big ball. and with Acid I feel more inside me shrooms is more outside me. Acid gives revelations. lol

 

man i cant wait to trip out on acid this weekend. FUCK YES!!!

 

Strichnine isn't, never was, and never will be present in LSD. There are several anecdotes where it may have been part of a sample in a case where there was poisoning intent, and other unsubstantiated claims. The jaw grinding thing is an effect of the stimulant part of the drug. Same thing with your back. It's because you're carrying tension there, not because of any impurities.

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