Our Job.

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by pianoperson60, Feb 8, 2007.

  1. pianoperson60

    pianoperson60 Senior Member

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    Ive been reflecting a lot lately on the 60s and 70s, but also on the liberal/"hippy/counterculture movement seemingly developing today...

    I don't know about you guys, but Im starting to feel "it." What exactly? Im not sure, but I feel like its getting to be our time. We're ready for this movement, we're ready to make a change, we're ready to let go of our fear and go wild.

    As I reflected on the 60s and 70s, I thought about how one of the "themes", a common tune that everyone sung in the 60s and 70s, that brought the hippy revolution all together, was opposition to the war in Vietnam...

    then I was thinking about what "our Vietnam" would be...and I dont think itd be the obvious (such as the war in Iraq, although that is DEFINITLEY something many stand togehter on)...

    I feel like our job would be something different. Yes we are opposed to the war in Iraq, but I think what the bigger problem in our world today is not just Iraq...

    its the growing space between East and West- we are told about "those Islamic fascists" and terrorists and everything, to the level where we are taught to fear Islam, and the East.

    We are fighting the hate of these radicalists with only more hate...which as we know, is just as good as throwing gas on a fire.

    I think our job is to build a bridge between East and West, we need to create much more understanding and tolerance...

    Only then will the threat of atomic weapons getting to terrorists and all those horrifying doomday theories be ended.

    We need to embrace this other culture, we need to learn, then we need to teach...we need to love them, not fear and hate them.

    Tell me your thoughts.
     
  2. all_rhodesian_reject

    all_rhodesian_reject Sonskyn Elvis

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    my brain just melted
     
  3. johnnystillcantread

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    Hello! I certainly agree we all have to start getting along. Because they have bombs now days that make an atomic one look like a firecracker. Not sure how it can be done but maybe common curtsey would be a start. For example if you see some one on the street from a different country say hello.
     
  4. Orsino2

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    That means we can say as-salamu alaykum or namaste to the friendly man at the Qwik-E Mart? :eek:

    Haha... taken a bit literally. I think some of us would get carried away with that one, but it's difficult to find foreigners around here. It's mostly transplanted Yankees and snowbirds looking for crabcakes. :eek: What foreigners you do find generally are business owners.
     
  5. ihmurria

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    Fundamentalists fearing fundamentalists... kind of a scary circle if you ask me.
     
  6. pianoperson60

    pianoperson60 Senior Member

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    Yeah, I dont simply mean being friendly to the foreigners around us, but also I think more importantly in general we need to somehow show the world that we embrace their culture and we dont hate them.
     
  7. Orsino2

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    Sometimes I think we need to do a reality show where two people from different countries who have never met become roommates. (This wasn't exactly a serious thought, at first)

    Perhaps like wife swap or one of those kinds of shows.

    (as if the world could use more reality?)
     
  8. supergeek

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    I don't think America needs another reality show... :) But that actually sounds like one I might watch! But then FOX would steal it, whatever it is, haha...
     
  9. Orsino2

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    Yeah, that's what I was getting at.

    Maybe something a bit more truly realistic, you know.

    It's something everyone could watch/enjoy every now and then.

    I don't like many of the network reality shows all too often, so I prefer to stick to my TLC, Discovery Channel, A&E, etc.


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  10. supergeek

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    Networks suck (in my opinion). I like to stick to the basics... Discovery, History Channel, TLC, Sci-Fi and comedy central (because how would I know about news without John and Stephen?!).
     
  11. Orsino2

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    Exactly... :D I love the format they have going, but I feel current DS correspondents will never equal the brilliance of the colbert/jon team.
     
  12. supergeek

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    No... All current correspondents are living in the shadow of Stephen. Very sad, actually. Although, I do love Samantha Bee and John Oliver. What's better than a brittish guy trying to find out why americans love war by fighting in a civil war reenactment, then breaking his nose?! (My favorite John Oliver moment.)
     
  13. all_rhodesian_reject

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    I think america should build a big ole wall around it's borders and quit bugging the free world
     
  14. supergeek

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    Hmm.. Well they are starting off this big wall with mexico. :D
     
  15. Orsino2

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    More like Washington needing the wall. I'm afraid most of us in this country aren't as extreme as everyone portrays us to be.

    So... majority rules, yet it..doesn't
     
  16. ihmurria

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    how do you do that? How do you convince people to be accepting though? I mean, even here in Canada which is "supposed to be the great cultural mosaic", I still have had to deal with coworkers who said that people have to suck it up because they're in a Christian country so they're going to have to hear "Merry Christmas" whether they fucking like it or not. These are not crazy fundamentalist people either, these are normal, relatively well balanced (as well balanced as any person living in SK is) people who sitll think that if you're in North America, it's Christian land and you have to deal with that whether you like it or not.
     
  17. Orsino2

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    Well, how are you dealing with this traumatizing atrocity?

    If you were in Iran or Mauritania, you'd be saying the same thing about Islam, only your voice would be forced and limited.

    The religion doesn't matter, it's the people, but you have to remember we're all made of stars, so you can't go out strangling confuscists and hindus or what have you. It's contradictory... and frankly, it's irritating because everyone has the same arguments towards this and can't look at it from any other angles--it's a bit boring, but bored people are boring people...

    I think people could be a little more... reductio ad absurdum, these days. There's always room for improvement, but if you're not happy with what you're given, then you can change it. (Though I don't believe in plastic surgery and was raised a Southern Baptist)
     
  18. wave owls not flags

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    i didnt know people still talked about these things? :D this place will never change. :D
     
  19. pianoperson60

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    ^what place will never change? wahtchoo mean, Im confused?
     
  20. Orsino2

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    Forum.
     
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