Iraq from a different perspective

Iraq from a different perspective. Many people never see it from this point of view, and many people do not want to see it from this point of view.

http://www.flashdemo.net/gallery/wake/index.htm

 

What was that supposed to prove? Whose "point of view" is it? It was just a series of pictures played to a country song designed to pull at the heartstrings of the people who actually buy the lies we were given to go to war in the first place. It's just more empty, pseudo-patriotic propaganda.

How can you say this pathetic shit is the reality of war when war is blood, splattered guts, and everything else the media refuses to show you?

Why don't you provide a video showing something from the Iraqis' point of view? Their country has been ruined and they cannot even leave the house without worrying about being shot at.

You should know that the government does not give a shit about those soldiers. This war has nothing to do with stopping terrorism or bringing so-called "democracy" to the Iraqi people. Why do you continue to be a cheerleader for this shit? Why should anyone support this bullshit war? Tell me!

So keep on living in your fantasy world and blindly supporting the elites profitting from these wars in which they will never have to fight themselves.

And if you think this war is for such a noble cause, then why aren't you over there fighting? Why don't you fucking go to your local recruiting office tomorrow and tell them you want to join up.

 

Ah ha ha. Dance my little puppet, dance. Psyops are so fun.

 

Yeh well here's the real perspective, not a fairytaile...

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.david-sadler.org/image/war/iraq/usdead.jpg&imgrefurl=http://cagoenlapus2.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!A84E513AFDDF99D4!3809.entry&h=330&w=589&sz=63&hl=en&start=19&tbnid=omZEPWunZRnr5M:&tbnh=76&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3DIraq%2Bwar%2Bpics%2B%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX

 

Well i'm not sure if it was supposed to prove anything. As was said it was a different point of view. To my knowledge these people were not actors these events occured. This imho is looking at it from a different perspective - quite clearly.

It was the point of view of imho the under represented soldiers not kicking down doors killing people raping women taking the piss out of kids etc etc etc . The vast majority of soldiers point of view imho. That is something imho it seems some people do not want to aknowledge.

Imho i do not think she was suggesting war is not like that sometimes. Evidently not all the time.

Here is another point of view http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8146821300012584780 happy now ?.

 

the soldiers are very underrepresented
and the media is absolutely ruthless against any soldier that is fighting and potrays all the soldiers that refuse to fight as absolute heroes
it's a lot more gray than a lot of people liek to think

not all of the soldiers fighting agree with why the war started
but they are brave and loyal enough to fight for the freedom of the Iraqis
I don't necessarily agree with the war, I don't necessarily disagree with the war either
but I respect and honor all of the coalition soldiers fighting in it

 

:applause:

 

Normally I just keep reading and forget posts like this, but for some reason, this one actually made me shudder out of pure disgust for its idiocy and I even felt a bit nauseas. Could be the Morphine, but I doubt it.

 

And THAT is the exact mindset the government wants you to have, and THAT is why we are so fucked. Support out troops? Why? One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

 

Yeah i agree - i feel a bit bad backing her up . I just agreed with her. Not taking the bloody piss - though.

 

haha it was a pretty, ugh kind of post I must say

 

It was. I'm sure we all have our off moments. Now fuck off.

Just kidding.

 

"not all of the soldiers fighting agree with why the war started
but they are brave and loyal enough to fight for the freedom of the Iraqis
I don't necessarily agree with the war, I don't necessarily disagree with the war either but I respect and honor all of the coalition soldiers fighting in it"

Actually, what they are doing is not "brave and loyal" at all - it is a violation of international and domestic laws. The invasion of Iraq was an illegal act, and thus those soldiers who are NOT refusing to fight in Iraq are war criminals - or "unlawful combatants" as your government would call them if they were from any other nation. The only thing saving them from prosecution is the economic and military might of the United States and the Bush administration's willingness to slaughter and starve millions around the world in order to secure the wealth of those he serves.

 

I mever said I support them
I respect them
big difference

 

What do you respect about them?

 

Actually, the war was not illegal and the soldiers are there at the request of the democratically elected government of Iraq. The idea that an international court would prosecute soldiers from one democracy serving another democracy is absurd.

 

Pepik

Yeh right and neither is 9-11 according to your rules.

You're a fuking liar..80% of the Iraqis and the government want us gone.

What democracy? the one the U.S installed at gunpoint?
You're fuking either stoned or retarded

 

No, the Iraqi government wants us there. They publicly say so all the time. You must be seriously clueless if you never noticed.

It's easy for you to sit on your ass and sneer at a government the Iraqi people dodged suicide bombers and snipers to elect, but I can't think of anyone who cares. Even Iran and Syria recognise the legitimacy of this government. Why don't you stop hating Iraq just to spite Bush.

 

It is illegal under both domestic and international law for the United States to invade any country without a direct threat or Security Council approval of action. In this case, neither was present, which makes this war illegal and the soldiers participating in it war criminals. The fact is, US and British soldiers are unlikely to ever be prosecuted - not because what they are doing is "ok," but because the United States has the ability to punish most of the planet - either economically or militarily - for taking any action against it.

As far as the "democratically elected government" in Iraq wanting the US there, the current Iraqi regime is in power specifically due to its willingness to submit to the Bush regime. As such, its actions are hardly legitimate.

 

I agree the initial supposed 'final resolution' is clearly open to interpretation. Even the UN can't make a secure view on that [as far as i'm aware]. Pepik speaks of resolutions after the fact and support after the elections. Both being true. It [he possibly] avoids the fact that this was not the story before but you avoid the fact this is the case now.

I think they were elected in. Some people have to move on. The Iraqi goverment have [hence their critical support] . Even the maority of countries who appsed the Iraq war - have moved on. Rice getting a kiss of Chirac highlights that quite well.