So I've managed to do this a few times. It made me have crazy dreams. I really enjoyed it. It is amazing how well you are able to control your dreams while tripping in your sleep. Anyone ever do this? My friends tell me that I'm a freak because I can sleep under these conditions, so I was wondering if there are any of you who can do it? Peace + Love
I have gone to sleep a couple times. Once was 7 hours into a bad trip and I just willed myself to sleep. The other time was 12 hours into a really intense trip (5 hits at once). When I layed down to sleep at 12 hours, I looked at a spot on my wall where the paint was chipped...and that damn spot would not hold still! Couldn't remember my dreams, tho.
Next time go to bed early and set your alarm at 4AM. Drop a hit and go back to sleep. You'll have the greatest dreams and wake up to a fuckin glorious day.
Once I remember after 7 trips, spaced out, 2 at first, then 3 about 4 hours later, then another 4 hours after that I ate another 2. It got to the point where I was tired but I couldn't be bothered tripping anymore, I was enjoying it but not getting much out of it coz I was too tired. I couldn't sleep so I took a tamazapam. Sent me out for about 5 hours, when I woke up the effects of the acid were all but gone, felt ok though. My friend ate the same as me and stayed up through it, claims he was still tripping till he went to bed the following evening.
Personally, I don't understand how that's even possible. When I ate a ten strip I was actively tripping for about 23 hours before I was able to fall asleep, and when I managed to finally pass out I was still seeing shit fairly easily. I too have dreams that are fucked enough, typically so real that while I'm dreaming it's impossble to tell that I'm dreaming until I've woken up. Waking up has been quite disorienting sometimes, it's odd. To me sleeping while trippin is a HUGE waste. I tried to do the eat a hit early and then sleep again and wake up and be trippin, it just didn't work. And I WAS already tired, had terrible sleep all week, slept like 5 hours night of, woke up REAL early and ate ten hits of strong acid. Fun day.
i usually have to smoke massive amounts of weed too to fall asleep. even if i've already come down. that shit makes my legs go crazy.. but i think it's the less than quality L... apparently it's strychnine that makes you restless
but then again i just found this on erowid... On the issue of strychnine in LSD: The following text was written by Alexander T. Shulgin in response to the overwhelming misconception that strychnine is commonly found in street samples of LSD: "The observation of strychnine as being present in any street drug, as a by-product, or a contaminant, or an impurity has never been documented. It is a natural plant product, as are the ergots which are used in the synthesis of LSD. But they come from totally unrelated plants; there has never been a report of strychnine and an ergot alkaloid co-existing in a single species. So if the two materials are together in a drug sample, it could only be by the hand of man. I have personally looked a large number of illicit street offerings and have never detected the presence of strychnine. The few times that I have indeed found it present, have been in legal exhibits where it usually occurred in admixture with brucine (also from the plant Strychnos nux-vomica) in criminal cases involving attempted or successful poisoning. The same argument applies to the myth that occasionally surfaces, that strychnine occurs in the white tufts of peyote. This is equally fraudulent -- it has never been reported in that cactus or any other cactus." Furthermore, it should probably be spelled out that strychnine is not needed to bond LSD to blotter paper, nor is strychnine a breakdown product of LSD. these are probably the two most commonly repeated gross misconceptions. The source of the "strychnine is commonly found in LSD" myth may be somewhat grounded in truth. For example, in "LSD: My Problem Child" Albert Hofmann cites a case in the late sixties of Strychnine being found in an "LSD" sample that was a white powder. However, what is commonly claimed is that strychnine is found in a significant percentage of LSD, specifically blotter LSD, which is *not* true. Shulgin's note that he has analyzed many samples of LSD and never found strychnine is backed up by published analyses done by PharmChem and the LA County Street Drug Analysis program, which likewise never found any strychnine. This is intuitively backed up by the fact that a 5mm x 5mm "standard" square of blotter LSD only weights about 2mg and if the paper itself was made completely out of pure strychnine it is still on the very low end of Strychnine's threshold of activity. Strychnine is not the cause of tracers, cramps, nausea, or amphetamine-like LSD-effects. Its possible that poorly synthesized LSD might have other ergot derivatives in it, which might contribute to the harsh body load that some get on taking LSD. Also, the very close chemical relatives 1-Methyl-LSD and 1-Acetyl-LSD (which break down into LSD in aqueous solution) might be present in some street samples and might contribute to the harsh body load. (Petter Stafford has claimed in his _Psychedelics Encyclopedia_ that 1-Acetyl-LSD is supposedly "smoother" than d-LSD -- thus "strychnine laced acid" may acutally be pure d-LSD, while "pure lsd" may be 1-Acetyl-LSD or some substitute). And the chemicals iso-LSD and lumi-LSD which are breakdown products of LSD might contribute to the body loading on some trips, particularly via a hypothetical synergistic effect. Given this plethora of possible chemicals in street "LSD", its not needed to look to a chemical which has hardly ever been found in analyzed samples to explain variations in the strength and "cleanliness" of street acid. Its also possible that LSD itself simply causes adverse physical effects, particularly muscle cramping, in persons suceptible to it. The reported side effects of LSD (the nausea and apparent CNS stimulant effects) are commonly reported side effects of seritonergic drugs such as fluoxetine (Prozac) and buspirone (Buspar), and also are commonly reported (and typically more severe) with other psychedelics like Mescaline. Or its quite likely that the "strychnine" reactions to LSD are entirely psychosomatic. Both Leary ("The Psychedelic Experience") and Lilly ("Programming and Metaprogramming...", "Center of the Cyclone") have each observed this reaction in people who cannot handle the surge of emotion associated with a trip. Further advice would be to avoid methylxanthines (caffiene, theophylline in tea, etc) prior to dosing. Some have noted a possible synergistic effect between them and LSD causing, or contributing, to a harsh body load during a trip. And prior use of dramamine may alleviate the nausea sometimes associated with LSD, and other psychedelic drugs (although it may also effect the quality of the trip -- Shulgin has noted in PiHKAL that he shuns the use of anti-nauseants in order to experience the effects of the psychedelic, both good and bad, with no possible interference). In summary, it can't be said that we know specifically why sometimes acid feels "cleaner" than other times. However, based on the availability of plausible explanations, and the evidence of drug analysis, and general implausiblity of the whole strychnine concept, we can conclude that it isn't due to any concentration of strychnine. Also, while it can't completely be ruled out, the presence of strychnine in LSD is so minimal that the majority of LSD users will never once come across it.
Yeah there's no strychnine in LSD ever, there was possibly one anecdote where strychnine was sold as LSD powder, but when people say things like "it's what makes your back hurt" or like "it was cool until the strychnine kicked in and then i had a bad trip" or "i was tired the next day cuz them doses had strychnine" i can't stand it. It's another one of those oft-repeated myths as to why one shouldn't do acid. Bottom line is that LSD causes a very wide range of effects that are not easily explained. I often feel restless, even without tripping, so it's no surprise to me that sometimes when I'm trippin I feel like goin out and doing something. One of my friends is not at all restless, but when he was trippin he kept feelin like walkin around outside, and went out and watched some skaters outside the dorm. Trippin just makes you do weird shit.
eh, there's lots of myths out there about lots of things. i agree that one should do research before doing any kind of drug, but most of the time, it just doesn't happen that way. and yeah, i ALWAYS go on an adventure when i trip i love it. last time, we broke into millennium park in chicago after hours. we ended up getting chased by security. quite a rush.
