Religion is dead

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Sign Related, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. Sign Related

    Sign Related The Don Killuminati

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    Is religion dead yet to you?

    Time to awaken. Religion is getting you nowhere. [​IMG] Faith in God is getting you nowhere. Have no morals for a change. And go by what you know instead of what you believe for a change. The mention of hell is what got many people trapped into religion in the first place. Free your minds from thinking hell will get you if you dont believe. Dont let religion rob you blinded.
    Having no morals doesnt mean you a killer or etc. Nothing is a sin. The whole thing about sin was made up to keep your mind on hell. Screw hell! Screw heaven!

    Yes, there is a higher power, but it aint God! So get your minds right and live without more stress on the brain. Who feel me?
     
  2. Bongish

    Bongish Banned

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    religion is not dead. It was never even alive. It is an imaginary concept. Something imaginary and never having been living, by definition, cannot be dead.
     
  3. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

    Strawberry_Fields_Fo RN

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    I don't assume to know why you're opposed to religion, so please don't assume to know why I believe in god. It actually has nothing to do with hell, in case your interested, and people have done and will continue to do stupid, irrational things with or without religion.
     
  4. Bongish

    Bongish Banned

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    yeah. but much more so with it.
     
  5. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    there are some things that are up to us, whatever else may or may not exist. like not messing everything up for each other.

    this does not in any way preclude the possible existence of nontangable friends, great or small.

    these are two seperate things.

    friends, nontangable ones included, are something to love and appreciate, but tangable or nontangable there is only so much anyone can do for anyone else.

    and one thing no pie in the sky can do, is take the place of the self restraint neccessary to avoid causing each other's suffering and the causes of each other's suffering.

    religeons were invented in an attempt, often a despirate one, to encourage people to want to stop causing harm and suffering to themselves and each other.

    i can, and do, find no fault in THAT motivation.

    when people use the pretentions of belief, to blind each other to the actual mechanisms by which they cause suffering and real harm, then THIS indeed, we would be far better off never to have come up with doing.

    remember, altruism or no altruism, everyone has a SELF interest in the avoidance of causing suffering. why?

    because the more suffering we cause the more suffering there is; and the more suffering there is, the more likely it is to bite ourselves on our own assess.

    =^^=
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  6. BlackBillBlake

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    Tell that to the islamist suicide bomber.
     
  7. Bongish

    Bongish Banned

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    Islamist suicide douchebags are victims of the same imaginary concepts and the brainwashing therein.

    never heard of an atheist flying a plane into a building......eh??????
     
  8. yyyesiam2

    yyyesiam2 Senior Member

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    SR-what you are doing right now is what is wrong with organized religion. you are preaching to other people and telling them how they should think. what is the difference between god and this higher power you speak of, other than words? remember, there are many different organized views of god, other than the christian one. how is there a difference between us believing there is no hell because you say so, and believing there is because a preacher tells us so?
     
  9. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    The difference is that he’s outnumbered by billions. Unfortunately religion is not dead. It may be dying in some pockets of North American Christianity while other more extreme religions are growing like a disease. Muslims alone outnumber the entire North American population by more than 3 to 1. This kind of religion doesn’t think with logic, it thinks with raw emotion. And don’t be fooled for one second that it not about pure unwavering hatred for the western world. Oh it most definitely is, they’ll lie to your face and tell you how peaceful they are and then go jump in their mobs and scream bloody death to all infidels.

    This world is dying of a terminal disease ironically called humanity, where the vast majority of this disease population LIVES TO DIE for their imaginary paradise, subconsciously and consciously working toward the Armageddon and the apocalyptical destruction of Earth. A world consumed and controlled by irrational religious nonsense isn’t going to be changed by a few little atheist threads, a scattered drop of rational thought in an ocean of madness.

    Are you going to argue over it being an organism or are you going to address the real situation? Are you going to sugar coat religion like a sweet little warm hearted after school special or are you going talk about what’s really going on in this world?? How long can YOU ignore this TIMEBOMB!!???
     
  10. yyyesiam2

    yyyesiam2 Senior Member

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    what are you doing?


    do you really believe it is possible to understand what is going on in every muslim's head without fully studying their religion?

    i know very little, but i don't think that they are all about hatred. there sure seems to be alot of preaching in this anti-religion thread.
     
  11. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Religious extremists all have the same common traits. They are all selfish, ignorant, irrational, two faced, genocidal walking hate machines.

    Anyone who prays to the God in their head 5 times a day on a regular schedule IS an extremist!
     
  12. yyyesiam2

    yyyesiam2 Senior Member

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    how does praying, or being extreme, for that matter-make you hateful? you sound like the hateful one at the moment, my confused brother.
     
  13. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    I’ve never drilled my 6 year old son to hate Muslims from time he started to speak but MILLIONS of them have their children brainwashed to hate Jews and Americans before they are 3 years old. I’m atheist and I don’t impose my beliefs on my son in any way. In fact he believes in God just like he believes in Santa and the Easter bunny and that’s perfectly fine with me. You can hate on me and play me as the bad guy all you want but this is what’s really going on, like it or not. You choose to not believe it now but you will find out sooner or later that it’s a mistake to ignore this malignant disease called religion.
     
  14. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    so much heat, so little light, or even self honesty.

    does it matter if "religeon" is dead? or even what anyone means by claiming the "it" is?

    one god, no god and zillions of them in a material, tangable sense, are all equaly probable. though i think the idea of a god being (inhierently) tangable is almost a self contradiction.

    what is almost certain is that there are strainger things then either of us can immagine, even in this universe. (and wonderfully, rewardingly strainger at that)

    so why not concern ourselves with what really is important that we can do something about, what we need to, and how we can?

    and i really think the first thing we need to, is to stop messing everything up for each other.

    not to impress each other or to try and become saints, but because the kind of world WE togather create, each of us, whether with anyone or alone, all have to live in.

    THEN if you want to "believe in" whatever else puts a smile on your little heart, i can see no harm in doing so.

    maybe we all have invisible friends. we probably do.
    maybe there is something big, friendly and nontangable. there probably is.

    but whatever there is or isn't,
    it is STILL up to US, to stop screwing everything up for each other.

    i really think that is what is important,
    and i really believe THAT is what every reavealer of organized belief,
    and every other kind of wise being who'se thoughts have been passed down through the centuries and millinea, have been trying to tell us.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  15. yyyesiam2

    yyyesiam2 Senior Member

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    i'm not trying to make you out to be a bad guy, just ignorant and hypocritical. it's not even difficult. you're hatefully attacking an enormous group of people in an exteme way, criticizing them as being hateful and extreme. to add to it, you sn is relaxxx. where do you get your information from? have you interviewed every muslim? how do you know they are lying if they claim to be peaceful? if the problem is extemism and hatred, you aren't helping. what would you propose as a solution to this assumed problem? more extreme hatred and violence? i am really glad you don't force your views on your children. i respect you for that. why are you trying to force your views here?
     
  16. yyyesiam2

    yyyesiam2 Senior Member

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    none of us know the truth about the world, but we feel it necessary to teach our children what we think they need to know to survive. perhaps to them, we are the hateful extremists, and they want to protect their children from being influenced by our self-centered culture.
     
  17. paintballer687

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    You are among the ignorant mass of society today. You see what the media shows you and treat it as fact. You know, the head of the 'war on Iraq' doesn't know the difference between a Shi'a and a Sunni? I'm sure you don't either. You obviously can't even differentiate culture from religion, in all honesty it's pitiful.

    You say millions of Muslims raise their children to hate Americans and Jews, and you know this how? The media has told you? Maybe if you knew the very basics of the religion you're trying to condemn you wouldn't make such a fool of yourself by making bogus claims without a shred of evidence.
     
  18. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Does anyone even have the balls to consider this…



    WHAT IF I’M RIGHT????


    [​IMG][​IMG]
     
  19. paintballer687

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    Are you fucking kidding me? Pictures with captions added in? This is your goddamn proof? First off, those pictures hold no credibility. Hey man, give me 10 minutes and I can have a Christian saying the same thing, hell I can show you a Jew saying the same thing. Seriously, if you believe that then I've got a bridge to sell you in Alaska.

    Second, you know absolutely nothing about what goes on in those countries. Let me tell you one thing, the media here sure as hell doesn't depict how the Israeli's truely act. I should know, I have friends who have grown up there, I've been there; the Jewish Israeli's have no feelings what so ever about Muslims and Christians alike. They could murder one and feel no remorse, it's not even human. I've seen recordings of Israeli troops raiding innocent Muslim and Christian housing for absolutely no reason more than to destroy their personal property; it's horrible, instead of using the door they'll break a hole in their wall to walk through.

    Third, even if that was true, you don't know whether or not those pictures are of Sunni or Shi'a. I'm sure you don't know the difference, but let me put it this way; you calling all Muslims extremists/terrorists is like me calling all white people members of the KKK.

    You honestly have no right to speak on this matter what so ever; I don't even know why I bother replying to such ignorant, barbaric posts. Seriously, you need to grow some balls yourself and try and consider for a second that maybe you're wrong.
     
  20. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Whoohoo, that got someone fired up! I sense a little deep seeded hatred coming to the surface there! That’s good, you should get that out of your system. We’re here for you buddy!

    It is true, I cant personally verify the integrity of those translations, I don’t own the original Iranian TV video before translation and I don’t speak their language even if I had it. But I did not create those captions, and I could never have made up something so sick and twisted! If anyone wants to try and verify the integrity of those screenshots, they are from a video featured on an episode of Glen Beck Exposed: the Extremist Agenda. Be my guest and research your heart out -- Find the whole episode on YouTube !!
    EVERYONE NEEDS TO SEE THIS VIDEO !!!

    Media can be a good tool, if you have enough sense not to become a media tool! What verifies the video to me is how it all adds up perfectly with everything I’ve seen and heard about Muslims and Islam, it all adds up 100%. I did not support the Bush administration when they launched their war on Iraq. I saw right through their lies, nothing they said added up and I was 100% right.

    This thread started with he notion that religion is dying, I thought it was important to mention that extremist religion is alive and well and growing totally out of control. For those of you trapped in your fantasy world bubble where RELIGION is not the huge WAR ENGINE that it really is, my post is not intended for you. This post is for those who can think for themselves and are mentally coherent enough to sort the junk media from the good and realize what’s really going on in this world.
     
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