Hi everyone, i am new here as you can see. I just wanted to get some advice from experienced users because i am really confused now after smoking salvia... Before i even tried smoking it i read a lot of articles about this plant, experiences, bit of history, how to's and even chemistry...So anyway... tonight i thought it's a good time to try it... I have always done new things alone and thought it was nothing to worry about, tried to take my cat with me but he didn't want to come for some reason... maybe he knew something's going to happen... So i took my bong and the 5x extract (thought i would use this first even though i have a 10x too somewhere...) I filled the bong and smoked... not very much at first because i was a bit scared... then i lied down and waited... but nothing happened... I think i repeated this for 2 more times and each time i took a deeper puff. The last one filled my lungs almost 100%. Then i started to feel strange... i was expecting to be catapulted away but it didn't happen... the only strange feeling i had was that i couldn't move normally. I was numb... when i closed my eyes i could feel like a rubber string but this feeling went away very fast after i realized that i am really feeling it. I actually felt there was someone else in the room even though i was sure there can't be anyone... i looked around and everything seemed normal but i could still feel IT... i thought it may be the spirit of salvia... but i am really a sceptic about this so the idea seemed really bizarre to me. Then i started to feel bad... i started thinking that i am a fool. That i did it all wrong... because nothing happened... i thought that even the rubber string feeling was just a strange placebo-like feeling. I felt so bad... i thought that salvia doesn't like me, that it didn't want to show me around because i was not the right one... that i was not yet ready. But at the same time i could feel that something wants me to move deeper but i just couldn't do anything... i lied down on the floor thinking about how ignorant i really am about all this. I still feel bad about myself... i thought maybe it was not salvia that i had smoked... but no, nothing would make me feel this way... 2 hours have passed since i smoked it now... i feel that i have failed........... The strange buzz is now gone too... ohh... i just needed to write this down... somehow i feel helpless and confused at the same time... Can anyone tell me was it the right thing to feel for a first-timer or not, what did i do wrong? Thanks...
sounds like a mild salvia experience. maybe your salvia was weak, or you just need practice. also make sure your lighter is strong, if it gives a small flame because it's a cheap lighter or it's getting low on fuel you won't get much effect. Salvia is unique so expect nothing. I don't get wild visuals, just a wild ride. feeling another presence is normal, though I prefer to think of it as an externalization of my own consciousness -- perhaps I'm not taking enough either.
hold it in longer? hmm i don't know. i know that a few of friends didn't feel anything from it either. i don't think it works with some peoples' body chemistry...
yeah i would say hold it in longer... some people make that mistake... or it wouldn't work if you didn't burn it enough... salvia has to be smoked at very high temperatures... but this isn't a completely strange experience because a lot of people do salvia and it doesn't affect them as fully the first time. because of the reverse tolerance effect of salvia, doing again should make its effects stronger. hope that helps
I am sure i was holding it long enough... maybe about 30 seconds then i just felt that i need some air... The biggest mistake i made was that i burned it like regular weed, with a match i made it burn from 1 side of the bowl and then just took the light away and watched it slowly burn from 1 side of the bowl to the end... Next time i will use that strong flamethrower lighter for sure! Do i have to keep the light on the salvia when sucking in the smoke? I think it would empty the bowl pretty fast...
Hah... i just did it again 30 minutes ago... this was my second time with salvia. Now i kept the light on it while sucking the smoke in fast and when it was all up i held my breath... then i started putting the pipe down when i felt that oh god, it's coming on this time! I managed to put the pipe down, my head was like really heavy at this point... so i just fell in my bed... then i felt like i was going in circles in my bed very fast... i thought to myself that i did it right this time yeah, im flying away now... i wanted to try if i can still move around... first few seconds were a shock cause i thought i can't move but then i got over it and i could move... and well, then the whole flying stopped... feeling still a bit buzzed now though. Guess i shouldn't have tried to move myself... i should have just let it do things to me
try using a good ole fashioned weed pipe. not the glass but the metal. dont worry about holding it in as much as lighting it everytime you go to toke. thats the key. towards the end your gonna need to hold it in cause its required. if you dont believe in spirits you will. the DIVI is a she so you will reconize. everyone does. try listening to these staions online it seems to carry you. the music always comes alive for me. use the goa psy on the di.fm http://di.fm/ or try good ole http://www.philosomatika.com/
try using a stronger extract and suck like its the last bowl you ever smoked then hold it in as long as you can. the first time i did salvia was a 15x extract and i smoked with an experienced user and i went to other worlds noone could dream of i even saw the end of the world once. now i have some 20x and its crazy i smoked by myself the other night and became part of a painting i probably shouldnt have done it with noone else aroung but got it in the mail and had to try it. but anyways salvia has different stages of effects from a peaceful euphoric feelling to a full on out of body experience. if the first time you use it you only get a euphoric feeling dont worry because the next time could be the big one. well i could ramble on about salvia forever its my favorite drug it opens doors you never knew where there and can take yu too other worlds if you let it. i think ill just leave it at that for now
Thank you all for the advice it was really helpful! The 3'rd time i smoked it i was in a forest with my friend, still used the 5x extract. After i had smoked a strong hit with intense fire kept on it i showed my friend to take the bong and the lighter from me and i sat down, back against a tree, and just waited... first 15 seconds were nothing but then out of the blue i felt like my head was stretching out into nothingness... i felt like a smoke getting sucked into someone's lungs... i found myself in a completely dark place with no objects in it... nothing... then i started to laugh, don't even know why... i tried to stop it but i couldn't... it didn't last very long, i came out of the dark place pretty fast but the laughter didn't stop... i tried to hold myself back but just couldn't... when it all had finally stopped i felt really good... cause i had just had my best salvia trip yet. I am hoping to get more experienced with it... i smoked it 2 more times later... didn't make me laugh like a maniac anymore, just random giggles... and the good feeling that someone's looking after you... i remember that i turned into an orb... or something round... i was round...
Hi. I just wanted to say, you'll probabl always want to use a torch lighter with salvia. That's how you get the best effects because torch lighters get alot hotter than regular cig lighters. Torch lighter release the salvian-A better.
This really isn't true....Possibly if you are dealing with a very crude extract.... but it really shouldn't be necissary to use a torch lighter... <J>