here is my personal mindfuck

That's good enough to be a quote.

I don't know if what you're talking about is the same thing as what I took to be "the system" - or what JCP is dealing with. In any case, whether it's insanity or not, it shouldn't be painful.

 

i have never consiously used the code in my entire life.

 

i was using "the system" in a general way

but i don't really know what i'm talking about.

i don't want JCP to suffer either.

 

What about that FBI agent personality of yours? Does he give you things to say so that you're using code?

 

umm, no. i dont think so. maybe if i thought about it just right. lol? i think the whole third level thing is just like shadows and mirrors in our head. and im not sure if i said so but i have a really crappy imagination. like, youd be so surprised about how much i dont use my imagination. the way i think even in my head, everything is real. you just have to sense how everything is coming to be. imagination is a myth. its just a place in reality that we think were creating....real? idk, kinda made sense.

 

That kind of reminds me of Terence McKenna's philosophy. He thought the imagination was more real than the realm of immediate sensation and facts/truths. He thought of it as a glimpse of higher realms of reality that our other more rational thoughts and sensations couldn't access.


My philosophy is more of a relativism. I think that the truth or realness of anything we perceive or believe in is imbedded in the experience of it, not outside of it. So if I believe something, it's real for me at the time. If I stop believing in it, it ceases to be real.

 

that is confusing. i never knew there was a unwritten code that no one can speak of...lol wat ever floats your boat

 

its not really all secretive and stuff....its just....shit....well i cant explain it but i can make a graph to show you how it works...

and im not going to make a graph to show how it works...

 

Yeah, emo as a code serves a number of useful and rather obvious functions: for a start it can garner attention, and worse, it can put pressure on a person to not simply attend, but to assist. On top of that, it can make said emo person seem concerned and sensitive and all that, further bypassing your defences. Not to mention it can be an excuse for all kinds of selfish behaviour. They did something crap because they were in an emo mood at the time...

But it's usually easy to decode. You can tell if someone's genuinely sensitive and concerned if they tend to worry about others, as opposed to being self-indulgent. Though actions speak louder than words in this regard, and even actions can not be what they seem sometimes...

I'd have to agree. "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" paints quite a vivid depiction of the process... on some quest to figure out the meaning of "quality", he pushes his mind to the brink, finally glimpses what he's looking for, and kinda lets go, his wife finding him sat in a room with a cigarette in his hand, burning his fingers and he doesn't care...


Regarding the levels thing, I took it to mean that there's what you say, and there's what your internal motives are for saying it (your conscious motives, deliberate intent), and then there are the motives that are hidden even to yourself, the things which you do without properly comprehending why you're doing it. Maybe your subconscious, maybe some instinct, maybe some psychological driver you're still unaware of.

I'm still not sure about the mirror though. Evidently I need to start smoking pot again...

 

when i first wrote this message i was all trapped and lonely and shit whatever. like i was trying to get the point across that i dont speak using code. but then i reread everything i wrote and i changed so much that everything i wrote had code written all over it and it was like i was talking to myself. like i was actually trying to communicate to me from like 10 minutes ago and whatever i just like changed. you know what nvm i dont know what im trying to say just read if you must.

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im not even 100% positive what i meant by the mirror thing. i think it would be like
creating a response of a person by what you are saying along with like facial movements and then playing off them. but then you have to do that gay poker shit (not really poker, just came to my head) and determine if theyre just reacting to art or something or if they have intentions for why they would make whatever body movement they do. like acting and shit. all i see are codes and shit that dont make sense. me personaly, i dont know a single way to comunicate other than instincts or long had habbits and whatever habbits i have learned really little probably from watching my mom or something. but i dont even know whats going on.

ok, i think the code is anything ive talked about thats conscious or like, not habitual. TO MEEEEE. thats what i mean by the code. even if thats like code for something else that im talking about thats what im talking about and im gonna call it code.

but this is so weird cause like, if its not conscious, like a habbit or something. you dont know what im talking about and it doesnt even exist. and youd even argue with me trying to like, prove that yuo have no subconsious or something. like you dont exist, and im not saying that directly about anyone its just that thas happened to me tons of times.

and then people like rodney dangerfield and other comedians im sure is like they use the code by not using it, but just doing stuff that if you talk about later it comes out as code and that shit fucks with me. like, just speaking of what shit has happened. not everything has a meaning im aware but everything you say pretty much has tones and i know an fbi angent is all over me right now does that make sense? thats just an archetype for something i dont really think real fbi angents are after me im just speaking of stuff that causes code and theyre is another code that doesnt exist and im suppose to accept the fact that reality isnt real, i dont exist, theyre is no code, and thats what it seems like is happening to society. noone cares and if you do you crazy or gay...or your and actor. a player. some shit. either way they have nothing to hide lol. im so funny...XD i feel like breaking the law. THEYRE IS NO LAW!!!! muahahah
i wish i was high right now id be hella laughing and shit. its so weird. sometimes i get what i want and never want it again (ever hear that lyrics?) and then sometimes i just want more and more like right now i think im a hypocrite. actually yea, im definitly heavy. hardcore ass hypocrite. holy shit. i was high. i get high off of communication. lol. i get high of off life. XD. and like, im just describing every feeling that comes to my head like i give a shit. lol. holy crap. im so full of love. i love everyone. i love you all.
whew, im so crazy. like, i definently have a real psycho-problem and if i had a choice id be tripping balls on acid right now. for the rest of my life even if i always feel like how i do right now. i even noticed im typing super fast right now. its like i found god or something or my super powers. like fight club or something. i bet so many of you would want to kick my ass right now. especially if were high together. what if im gay? do any of you guys think im gay? cause this could just be like, coming from a gay guy backing himself up but i dont really think anyones gay. people just get horny and use logic that its ok to do a guy in the butt and talk funny. but what about if you think thats perverted? does that make you gay? cause honestly ill say that right now im feeling like god like im really high and just like i can feel anything in the world. nothing matters. like a bank robber jacked up on adrenaline. by the way im typing like 3 times faster than i thought i oculd.

you guys ever do that hippie babble forum? i think i have my own genuine hippy babble but im not sure if im suppose to be like a hyper hippie to do that or like stoned whoa man hippie. just like rambling on and shit...is that babbling? or if i was ranting or something? its like the same.

 

I'm going to guess that you're doing okay. You've really got some random thought processes going on in your head, but I can pick out a few jokes here and there, so it's all good.

 

Hi Everyone,

I've just read thru this entire Thread, and wanted to make a reply to everything that has been said. But, as my reply is basically HUGE, I went ahead and made a new Thread for it...

If you would like ot check out my stand point on all of this, please feel free to check out my Thread...

Consciousness, Thought, Energy, and the Divine... Love!

What I say in the thread is my opinion on what everyone is calling "The Code." I just call it a Pattern in Life. =D

 

ur driving me out of my mind

 

Thats exactly the point. ;-)

 

yeah man i so know wat your saying. but i wonder does the whole world have this thing man just like in different forms or wat?

 

To answer this question, let me ask you a question...

Do you see your world as being based on this theory?

 

JCP i really dig what you said. ive always thought of myself as an observer who is only good at observing, i really just study ppl like a personal experiment. this meaningless game of life is such a drag, i always just find myself wishing i could be honest with my feelings. its like i want to say all these things that have been said in this thread(especially your insightful posts) to other ppl but i feel like they wouldnt understand what i mean. i almost feel that only some ppl are able to truly understand what society is, and im one of them. this whole existence is a facade, all the emotional problems that ppl have are just linked to the taboo of feelings. i just cant help thinking that either im better than the normals, or im just a freak, a crazy person, "tapped". i feel like if i ever truly communicated my feelings to anyone ill be put away. ill go through periods of wanting to spread the love, or ill be toally disgusted by the human race. Its like that song "Aenema" from tool, i sometimes wish a tital wave will wipe out this entire country. this sytem just holds down the superior to give the terrified inferior ppl of the world in power. im sorry, ive never gone into anything like this before. i feel like im under constant scruteny(thats spelled wrong) for being free thinking. do you understand what im saying?

 

I think It's just a tool of the government, like in the media they use it all the time. I was watching the news the other day and they were discussing the school system. Coming from Patterson, one hellova dangerous spot, guns, fights, chix cutting ppl with razors, the whole nine yards.

Well anyway they were discussing the problems with the food they serve and like paint problems, which is pretty important when theres like 500 kids involved. and they closed it with "but these aren't the worse problems" and he said worse a bit louder and coherently (I've learned that this is a tool the media uses to get your attention at that moment) and then they flashed to a bunch of black kids (the ratio is about 25% Black) and you know the protrayal, pants down, arguing, like the problem is the kids, and ignore the fact that they had to shut down the water system in the whol school for lead, and the walls are crackin and whatnot, Oh noes! the kids aren't getting along! that's way worse! don't pay attention to the other things!. But I ramble.

especially comedians (as someone sayed before) I mean after seeing it in media, these people are exposed to nothing else and are *incapable* of portrsying their real emotions, they're just stuck on what they *should* be feeling vs. what they actually are.

 

Notice the three things within you're quote that I have made bold.

If you were to ask me, I would say that you have reached a point of understanding. And, to me, that point of understanding is like a double edged sword, where you feel you're walking a very thin line.

On one side you feel like you're Better Than the rest, while on the other side you feel like you may be Worse Than the rest (so to speak).

I would say... Just walk the line. Take in and Release the feelings of any duality you might have, within you, and allow your being to Listen and Speak.

Hope this makes some sense. ;-)

 

that was beautiful