Religion is dead

Of course it adds up to you, you're ignorant enough to believe the media. I'm not going to argue with you any longer; I've been through this for most of my life, I've been places you've never been, seen things you'll never see, I know Islam for what it really is. If you're so naive that you take anything the media says with more than a grain of salt then you're not worthy of my time. Now, if you want to try researching through reliable sources, travel to a few Arab nations, and learn the difference between religion and culture so you can have even an idea of what it is you're speaking of, I'll be glad to talk with you. Until then, I sure hope you're proud of your ignorance and hatred.

 

pretty self important and sure of yourself, eh?

Let us examine what Islam really is...shall we?

I'd say the Koran itself is a "reliable source" How 'bout you?

"the doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened, compelled to the doom of fire, Jews: the greediest of all kind"----

that's culture??
sounds like ignorance and hatred to me.

 

Hmm, you have a very poor translation, it seems almost as if it's been translated in a negative way?
How about you go read it in Arabic then get back to me.

 

It's not the Koran, it's some anti-islamic interpretation. I could twist the Bible the same way. A very concrete idea in Islam is that the Koran is unable to be correctly translated from Arabic.

 

My post to relaxx holds true to you as well. You looked at an anti-islamic web site, taken it as fact, and now hold yourself in high regards. I mean, I'm really sure that after reading through that anti-islamic site you know what Islam really is; way better than me, of course, I mean, I am only Muslim, traveled to Islamic nations, etc.

 

Actually, I haven't heard of an atheist doing that.

 

i suppose the real culprit here and all over the world is dogmatic thought.

 

1st rule of defense: when faced with a truth you can't refute, attack the source.

nice try.

 

it is the Koran.

 

precisely.

 

bongish-i haven't studied enough of the koran in its original text to assume i know enough to debate you. what i want to know is-have you? not an attack-i would really like to know the truth of the matter.

 

I've seen several translations, they're basically all the same.

 

You are using an incorrect source. That is an interpretation of the Koran, not the Koran itself. The Koran is written in Arabic, which contains concepts that are literally impossible to translate into any other language; it has words and ideas that the English language doesn't. Any translation of the Koran is a guess, at best. And you use a translation done by someone trying to make it sound as bad as possible in the first place. You have an incredible, inaccurate source, it's as simple as that.

 

Edit: double post.

 

paintballer: is the part about the jews incorrect? that seemed pretty specific.

 

The Koran is impossible to translate correctly, only the original text is a credible source. Don't you see something wrong here? I'm a Muslim and you're trying to discredit my knowledge of my religion after looking at a twisted interpretation of the Qur'an? I wouldn't go to some anti-christian web site to find an anti-christian interpretation of the Bible and then go attack Christians, that would be ignorant, as you have proven. Honestly, what is your reason for being so intolerant?

 

Which part exactly?

 

i'm asking whether the part of the previous post was really in the koran. seems it would be difficult to misinterpret. i'm ignorant of the knowledge-i thought you might be able to check this for me.

1. Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. 2:96

 

I don't want to rush and give you an answer so quickly, as this is not something I take lightly, but I would like to point out some thoughts. Look at the sentence structure, the terminology, does it sound archaic to you? It seems to be translated by a kindergartener rather than any Islamic scholar. I will have to give a definate answer after I have a chance to check correctly, though.

 

Why don't you give these some food for thought?
http://www.answering-christianity.com/contra.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/golden_rule_lie.htm