Consciousness, Thought, Energy, and the Divine... Love!

Hey Everyone,

I'll start off by saying that, while I am creating a new Thread here, I am kind of relating some of what I am about to say to JesusChristPose's Thread entitled "here is my personal mindfuck." In his Thread, he talks about the "Code" of Life as is observed in everyday communication. And thus, I wanted to add to that discussion by adding my own philosophies and understandings...

One of the first things that caught my eye, in that Thread, that I'd like to point out, was a reply by prismatism. Here is the quote::

In my opinion, this is a great explanation! To me, "Breaking the Code" is becoming aware of the underlining message behind all of Life's Conscious and Subconscious communication...

But let me move on by throwing some possible Ideas on the table here::

If one holds the belief that we are all Conscious beings (which, I would guess most of us do), then we can easily deduct that a -Thought or Idea- is a mere construct of that Consciousness.

Then, if one also were to believe in the idea that Everything is a mere form of a singular Energy Field (an idea held within quantum physics), we can easily deduct that -Consciousness- is a mere construct of that Energy. (In other words, Consciousness is nothing more than waves, or spirals, of Vibrating Energy)

And further, if one believes that there is a Divine origin to -Everything That Is- (we can call this God), than we should easily deduct, and see, that the Divine (God) is that which we call Energy, Consciousness, and Thoughts/Ideas.

So, if we take these deductions as true (or -at least- possible), then in my opinion there is a Divine Pattern within every -Thought/Idea- that we hold in "our" Consciousness... (This would be what one might call "The Code" of Life)

However, to me, understanding this "Code" goes even deeper than just describing where it derives from. In my opinion, we must understand the driving force behind it. In other words, we must understand "How to Play the Game."

So, again, here is my philosophy behind it...

When I started becoming aware of -Life-, I became highly intuned with a deep seated Pattern that, at first, I couldn't figure out. So I started asking myself questions. "What is it that everyone in this world is seeking, from the moment of birth?" (And I am not talking about anything tangible.)

The answer is:: Love and Acceptance!

So, throughout an individuals life, all that they are doing is trying to find Love and Acceptance. Now, of course, food for survival is necessary, but that's an obvious. Some people might even say that Love and Acceptance is obvious as well, but I think you will find that most people don't always seem to realize that these two things are the deep rooted drive for everything they Think, Say, and Do!

My wife then pointed out to me one more thing. We are also -ALL- merely telling our life stories. I mean, just look at life and the people within it! All that anyone is EVER doing is just telling THEIR story to whomever will listen. (Look at what I'm doing right now. Telling my story).

So, my wife and I have concluded that during life, EVERYONE is doing nothing more than telling their own Life story, which truly is no more than a story about finding Love and Acceptance. Think about that for a second!

Billions of people equals Billions of the exact same story, each with their own unique twist.

Now, I know some might bring up individuals who have done horrible crimes, etc.. But, if you truly look deep into "Their Story" I think you will find that it's also a story where they were just looking for Love and Acceptance as well.

So, lets go back to this idea of "The Code" and "The Game." In my opinion, to understand this "Code," and to be able to play the "Game," all one must do is to understand Love and Acceptance.

What do I mean by this?

Well, for me, finding True Inner Love and Acceptance of myself was the key. When I finally stopped looking at myself thru other people's eyes I realized that I had not been TRULY Loving and Accepting EVERYTHING about myself. (From an observers standpoint, I see this as being a big Hang Up for many people.)

So, once I was able to find that Deep Inner Joy (I say Joy, because it's an overwhelming feeling of Inner Love and Acceptance that shoots thru your body), I was able to see the "Code" clearly.

The "Code" that I began seeing was the deep underlining message within EVERY word that I took into my Consciousness. Whether these words were spoken by me, by others, in a movie, in a piece of music, etc., it didin't matter. There was meaning behind it all; a Pattern. That Pattern, to me, was a Pattern that has been painting a clear path to Love and Acceptance!

Zen Buddhist Quote:
When you're Deluded; Every Statement is an Ulcer.
When you're Enlightened; Every Word is Wisdom.

There was one issue, however. After observing this Pattern for some time now, I have realized one thing. This one thing is that this "Code" (the Pattern) of Life can, and most certainly does, become tainted if you let it!

You see, many people do not realize that they have absolute utter control over their minds, and the thoughts that come to them. More so, I would say it's a matter of not realizing that our thoughts/ideas do -not- just have to be pure reactions to our external environment...

And, thus, if one is not completely centered in Love; and if one does not completely accept themselves on every level, then one might see this "Code" (Pattern) in Life to have a different meaning than that of Love.

And the tricky part to explain, is that for them, it does!

To me, all of life is what you believe and want it to be! So, I would say that it is your Conscious (or Subconscious) intent that will guide you within the Pattern (the "Code") of Life...

Anyways, I have written enough for one day. I will leave this wide open for discussion. I find much joy in open conversation and debate. If you have anything to say, please feel free to say it, with no hold backs, for I understand that their is meaning for me in every word that I will read on this forum. ;-)

With Love for All
-LuckEnova!

 

When you have no understanding, even a thousand books are not enough.
When you have understanding, even one word is too much.
-Zen saying

 

Hence, Silence (Emptiness) is Golden! ;-)

 

Code? Hmmmm...... ;-) heh

 

What do you make of this one:

All day long there is speaking, yet no word is ever spoken.
-Zen saying

 

I would say, isn't the mind a wonderful playground?
All you have to do is

 

LOL Damn, you're good at this game. Okay, here's the stumper:

If a man speaks in the middle of a forest, and no woman is around to hear him, is he still wrong?

 

One might say, He is wrong, and that without the woman there, He doesn't know why.


How about this one...

"Ride your horse along the edge of a sword; hide yourself in the middle of flames." -Zen Saying

 

LOL Good one.

However LuckE, let's go back to a passage I love from your original post:

Could we not also deduce from this that as parts of this energy of consciousness, we're all connected to each other and to God? Is this not a real, true connection, and not just a nice intellectual idea? If it's real, then when a man speaks in the middle of the forest, isn't a woman, in effect, "with him" there, whether or not his voice makes her eardrum vibrate? And if the connection is real and true, maybe he can in some way know that he's wrong AND why.... LOL

Duhhhhh...I dunno, I give up. LOL Maybe I could quote Yogi Berra for this one: "In baseball, you don't know nothing."

 

sorry it's taken me so long to post/reply to your PM

i think you're right about everything boiling down to love and acceptance, and sharing our life stories. but i think it can be boiled down even more than that to one feeling that could be described with a thousand words, that is at the base of the code. or we could just call it god.

if that's too controvercial, we could say that there's something inside everyone that loves connecting. verifying it's own existence, the existence of others, and the basic conclusion that they're the same thing and the truth is just that there is intentional existence when fear says everything is lonely random chaos in a void.

it loves adventures, the life story part, because each experience is a facet that reflects a different image of itself on a different scale, and communicating that and hearing about it from others adds more and more facets to the reality you can see. if you could see everything, you'd be blinded by it and not see anything. that's happening right this second. everything there is to see is right in front of us, but there's so much that we can't identify it until we section it off and focus on one form at a time. to do that, we have to section off our range of perception, which is why we're all in different bodies going through different lives with our different personalities.

it's like the story of the blind men and the elephant. they each touched a different part and had a different idea of what the elephant was. the tail felt like a rope, the legs felt like a tree, the ear felt like a rug...

we could call each different interpretation a different part of the code, a different reaction to reality, and call the elephant as an intrinsic whole that thing inside all of us that is the same. so you can understand why people argue and fight. they think, if i think this feels like a tree, and he thinks it feels like a rope, of course we can't both be right. but if i'm wrong, that means i don't exist (since our existence depends on our ability to synergize with the rest of the world). i know i exist. so he must be wrong.

most of us aren't that enchanted when we see an elephant, because we've seen them so many times. but if we see only a part of the elephant, and then gradually the whole becomes revealed, we appreciate it much more.

na tasya karyam karanam ca vidyate
god has nothing to do

so when you have nothing to do, what do you do? you play. you pretend to be someone else, somewhere else, doing something new. maybe you do this by watching tv, or by going to a bar and hearing about someone's adventures, or you read a book or something. so that is what god is always doing, because there is nothing god has to do. god is self fulfilled, and never worries about where food or shelter is coming from. there is no danger to god. so god is always playing. and if god is that force at the center of the code, we are always playing. everyone is playing a different game, and since that driving force inside of them is god, they automatically feel that the game they are playing is the ultimate truth. and it is, but it's not the whole ultimate truth. just because you have god in you, and everything you do is for god, that doesn't make you yourself god.

if a boy has ten different toys, he gives them each a different personality and different actions according to that personality, but everything he invests in them is really inside himself. so the toys are not him, but he is the toys. he depends on the toys to create the game; without them, what would the boy be able to do? and at the same time, the toys are playing with their toys (think of barbie and all of her clothes, cars, kitchens, and everything). the same happens in a dream. if we dreamt of an empty and random void, where would the happiness be? even in the weirdest dreams there is some structure and some personality. when we grow up, we want to travel and buy things, listen to music, look at artwork, so on. we're still just playing.

so back to the code. how can we actually use it? there are two ways. but.... my cousin needs the computer so i'll finish this novel later .

 

You know, I like you're answer much better and I'm glad you said it. I thank you for your fine words and wisdom. AND, I'd like to add to it a bit further if I might...

...when that man understands he's wrong, and why, he rides his horse thru the burning forest flames to find that woman and admit it.

That sound about right?

 

Well Said! Thank You!

Great Story! Sometimes I can't help but think that the "elephant's" idea of itself plays a roll in the ideas of the blind men describing the elephant.

So very true!

I wrote a poem that touches this same principle (at least, what I think I am understanding, from what you said). It's called...

The Answer
This life is full of love, Yet also full of hate.
Everyone wants the answer, Yet no one wants to wait.
Our want and greed devour, What little patience we feel.
While no one really knows, What the truth will reveal.

People love to laugh, Yet people hate to cry.
People hate to tell, Yet people love to pry.
We go thru this life, Trying to amend our woes.
All the while, Trying to transcend our foes.

We seek equality, Yet diversity prevails.
The answer is simple, Yet parity it entails.
To search outward, Will cause us to transgress.
But to search inward, Will bring truth and redress.

Another great metephor! Thank you for spending the time to write all of this out, and explain these stories! That is much appreciated!

I can't wait to hear more from you! =D

 

i never thought of that. of course. none of it happens by accident. and i'm sure there were more subtle elements that came into play... getting subtler and subtler... more and more colors and textures to paint a bigger and bigger picture of reality.

nice. duality. the "divine dichotomy".



so i said i was going to tell two ways to use the code... you can either use it to break people out of their habitual reactions, or you can use it to avoid conflict and make people happy. if you keep at it with the same person, either way leads to the same end, which is soul synergy. another part of using the code is learning to understand which path works best for an individual person.

breaking people is a little rougher, and if you start it off with someone who doesn't trust you or isn't ready, you can alienate them or end up feeling crazy. you have to have a lot of faith in that core that wants love and acceptance and communication. but in the end, it's up to the other person to acknowledge what you're trying to do or not, and if you start out too radical they might shut down.

if you chose to try to break someone (that term sounds a little mean, eh? ) you'd have to just be bluntly, entirely, mind-blowingly honest with them. after a while it becomes a matter of instinct and faith, and it's almost like reading the person's mind. because that's what it is. you dig through the clutter to their core, work your way back out, and then pick the most relevant layer of clutter to ease into them with. the better you are at it, the less they'll be able to deny what you're doing, which could work either way. shut down or break open. it's a little hard to explain, but sometimes you can just feel it and it works. it's really instinct and faith, the code itself in a literal sense becomes automatic.

the second way is subtle. you go in and work your way out again (does that make sense?), but you don't make what you're doing obvious. you gain the person's trust through connecting with them, but it's not about trying to shock them. you slowly get closer and closer to that core, but it's not so much like you're setting out to reach it. it's more an addition to the normal interactions you'd be having with people anyway.

i'm sorry if none of this makes sense. it's really late and i'm tired. i'll fix it in the morning. thank you so much for this thread, it's fun .

 

It all makes perfect sense! No need to apologize one bit! Your wisdom, and faith to tell it, shines into my being divinely! And I love that! So Thank You!

It's funny, too, because I have always been a person who was very good at -trying- to 'break' people, even before I knew what I was trying to break people of (if that makes sense).

Basically, because I am such an open, honest, and blunt person, whom absolutely LOVES knowledge and wisdom, I used to speak my mind clearly and precisely about what I felt WAS that knowledge and wisdom. However, that method always used to get me in trouble with other people (or rather, I should say, with myself), because I have always been so adamant about speaking "Truth" that it sometimes got muttled with my ego.

In other words... I was like one of those Blind Men, feeling my part of the elephant, but understanding that what I was feeling wasn't the "whole" of the picture. Then, before I truly understood that "Whole," I would try to explain to the other Blind Men that what they were feeling wasn't the entire whole either. Thus, the problem that I ran into was that many of those other Blind Men wouldn't want to listen to what I had to say, because they felt I was undermining their ability to understand, in a general sense.

What I didn't realize was that, by trying to understand the "whole" elephant and explain that "whole" to the other Blind Men (before I had a better understanding of it myself), I forgot to appreciate the smaller differences in the other views of what those blind men saw themselves. (Which is basically explained perfectly in the quote I have in my signature.)

I hope that all makes sense. =)