we're nearly doomed here in Italy

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by jagerhans, Feb 21, 2007.

  1. jagerhans

    jagerhans Far out, man. Lifetime Supporter

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    i cant believe this, because of 2 votes this trembling executive we had here in this crappy joke of a country has fallen and now we are about to vote again at the serious risk to fall once again in the hands of that fucking megalomanic fascist midget and all because of a couple of fools .:banghead:

    If berlusconi comes back I am going to ask for refuge in north korea, I cant stand another electoral campaign but worser than this i am starting to believe he is what we deserve after all. shit.shit.shit.shit i want to sleep until this daytime nightmare ends. shit shit shit etc.
     
  2. Orsino2

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    So I heard.

    All I keep hearing is that a communist party leader and a fascist party leader have been bickering, the center-left PM has resigned...

    Then when I finished reading the article, they had 358/360 votes... wtf

    Then the other guy persuades him to resign?

    This makes no sense. Why are the world's politics becming more backwards-ass every day...
     
  3. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    You know... a purely Fascist government might be a tad bad, but is not all that bad.
     
  4. Orsino2

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    Yeah... they've got cookies.
     
  5. Yoseff

    Yoseff Music Addict

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    And, as everyone knows, cookies make the world go 'round.
     
  6. WayfaringStranger

    WayfaringStranger Corporate Slave #34

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    has italy ever had a good stable governmet,or leader? infact, now that i think about it, im not sure if any country ever has.
     
  7. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    very polarized place i understand? International Marxist Tendancy has a group there, work inside the CP i think...
     
  8. Orsino2

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    Well... you know, the worst governments I've ever seen have all governed the same parcel of land.

    Mesopotamia...

    And people act like they're going to do something or change it, but what the fuck... majority of our leaders have been around for 40 to 60 years.

    I think the arabic/mesopotamian culture has been around justttt a bit longer...
     
  9. joo kyle

    joo kyle thisandthat

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    they had ceaser. Although that was just regaurding rome. But then they killed him because he was pretty much ruler of rome and the senate did'nt mean a thing. They did'nt care that country/city was in it's best shape for a long time, they killed that had no power.
     
  10. Orsino2

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    Marcus Junius Brutus, you bastard.

    Most people don't know that Julius Caesar also had an affair with his mother when Brutus was only ten... and ol' Brute wanted to get back at Pompey for killing his father.

    A true coward... killed himself during the wars of the second triumverate, after being defeated in Phillipi, and on the run, then Portia (or Porcia... rather, I guess?) followed suit after hearing the news.

    I never read The Inferno, but I've always been interested in the book and the whole situation.
     
  11. joo kyle

    joo kyle thisandthat

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    I was a actually quite awear of that. Did you know that he also avoided wars by sleeping with his enimies wife? By doing this his eniems would'nt attack him because it showed weakness and dishonor that their wife would sleep with someone else. Diplomecy threw bkackmail really.
     
  12. ConeyIslandOfTheMind

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    Le sigh. :rolleyes:

    Et tu, Brute!

    God, I love that line.

    And..."Are yet two Romans living such as these?!"

    I'd pretty much die of ecstacy if I could play Caesar. Alas, poor vagina. :(
     
  13. BraveSirRubin

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    That is my favourite saying from Julius Caesar :D

    This reminds me of something that I haven't thought of in a looong time.

    When we were like 15, me and some friends did a school project about Julius Caesar... a satiric play which we filmed... I was the narrator, and I would dress up as a completely random character in every scene.

    In the last scene (with the ghost... one of my friends on rollerblades and a bedsheet with day-glo all over it. )... we filmed it in the bathroom, and I had my rasta dread wig on, and dressed all hippish... and I was standing on the toilet improvising my script... The teacher laughed her ass of to that one, no one else in the class got the "high on pot" reference... damn Hondurans.

    Actually, I was also Brutus, now that I remember... I acted it out as if he was constantly regressing during the play and had an oedipus complex.
     
  14. Orsino2

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    Julius Caesar is something I could never read from a textbook... but I seem to be fine otherwise.

    How I hate those gawdawful things.
     
  15. jagerhans

    jagerhans Far out, man. Lifetime Supporter

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    maybe not everyone of you knows our very recent history, and this is possibly a fortune on your side :) , listen how funny : the prime minister berlusconi looks at the polls and realizes he is going to lose the incoming elections, so he and his side alone, having a strong majority thanks to the past law , impose a new electoral law which is tailored to fit his needs (as per usual; he is the one who changes the criminal and trial laws and everything in order to fix his personal troubles), including the possibility for the italians abroad to vote (since they are traditionally regarded as right-wing sympathizers). To climb the disdvantage in polls he finally, right 2 minutes before the end of the campaign, quite oddly promises to cancel a very unpopular tax on homeowners, which is the main source of incomes of local administrations (btw mostly in hand of the left, of course, so they can go hell or eat shit, who cares) and this brings him much more preferences, but BECAUSE OF HIS NEW ELECTORAL LAW and also because italians abroad vote unexpectedly for the leftwing coalition (hear those communists laughing like mad :lol: ?!) he loses for say 20000 preferences, while with the old law he was going to WIN !
    From the beginning of the campaign he knew he was going to be defeated, so he announced in advance he was informed about a "communist" conspiracy aimed at electoral corruption. (this sounds strange, how comes that the chief of the executive knows about that BEFORE and isnt able to prevent it?) . The natural exit of his failed campaign was to scream at the conspiracy, thing that he kept doing until now.
    Some people actually think that in fact conspiracy took place, but from his side. Avoiding to enter details, it looked strange: 1) that while normally blank votes vary a lot from place to place, this time they were EVERYWHERE (understood? everywhere) contained in a narrow percentage , thing this statistically impossible. 2) during the vote count, he started gaining advantage at a constant, flat rate represented on graphic by a straight line with no peaks at all. A malignant communist could think tha a certain point those blank votes started to be converted into votes for the right wing coalition. Oh, another thing: it appears that the blank voting bills have mysteriously disappeared. On those thesises a movie has been made ("Uccidete la democrazia - Kill democracy" , E. DeAglio) and predictably for italy the authors fell in a sea of troubles.

    The result of the elections was a crippled center-left majority that led a nightmarish life of suspance votings until a couple of odd thinkers , one of them belonging to my party (communist refoundation) decided to deliver it the last day's coup de grace . It's not that Prodi executive is that good, disappointment on our side is great about the results, though it is a very partially acceptable compromise (that's democracy baby), it's that we as nation just plain cant afford another "berlusconi moment" :p and someone forgot that.

    To outdo this thug of politics many of us devoted months of our time doing as much as we could, I personally was even bound to improvise myself as a documentary director for our local campaign (with ed wood class result but that's another story :p) , and all to be shortly after in risk to fall back prey of the hell dwarf, since it appears that polls favour him again . but as I've been saying, in a mockery of a democracy like this i suspect we just deserve to be ruled by berlusconi and his horde of neofascists, tycoons and racists.

    thanks for the psychological support sisters & brothers, thanks a lot
     
  16. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    Well mate, tis pretty fucked right now, but dialectics man, things will enevitably improve
     
  17. Yoseff

    Yoseff Music Addict

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    I was taught in my Latin class last semester that Caesar was killed because he had declared himself king of Rome, rather than emperor.
     
  18. jagerhans

    jagerhans Far out, man. Lifetime Supporter

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    this is not quite exact ; it was rather the fear of this occurrence to determine the conjurers who had him slain.
    this was predictable since the Roman were said to hate the word itself (or the authority, cant guarantee for the exact translation since its ambiguous :rolleyes:) of "king" , differently from every other people:
    "regis nomen, cuntis gentibus verendum, Romae invisum importunum grave" (c.nepos, "de viriis illustribus" lives of outstanding men or something like this)
     

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