Okay, I've been tripping shrooms for about 7 months now, at first it was a form of entertainment but now has turned into something different, something more. I have tried to count the number of times i've tripped and came up with about 8 times. I talked to my friends that i trip with later that day and they pointed out its something more like 15 times. It is very hard for me to wrap my brain around this, anyway thats kind of besides the point. Last time i tripped was possibly the hardest trip i have ever had, it is the first time i have said to myself "i'm done, i don't want to trip anymore tonight" (which is weird due to my high natural tolerance) and i figuared with as hard of a trip as it was i wouldn't even think about tripping again. that all happened about a week ago and i already feel that i have something i can gain from tripping again. i'm starting to wonder if i really have something more to gain or if i'm just making stuff up in my head to justify tripping. But i do feel like i have changed, i was walking through the mall today and felt like i was in a different world, kind of hard to explain, as i'm sure ya'll know. Anyway any input is apreciated.
You're just spaced out. It happenes when you trip a lot. Do you sometimes feel like your not in your body even when you're not tripping? That happens to me when i've pushed the limit. And itr can last a long ass time. Only you can decide why you're still tripping, and whether it is helping you or not. I'd suggest taking it easy.
yeah, i'd say slow down. i used to trip all the time...every weekend, sometimes twice a week. i got really burned out, and now have little desire to trip more than once or twice a year. you will stop being so spacy after a couple months of not tripping. you'll feel more "normal" again. or at least, thats how it was with me, not necessarily true for everyone. i suppose it has more long-term consequences for some folks. i feel that psychedelics have a LOT to offer, and its not only enjoyable to trip but when you think its worthwhile and beneficial its easy to do it way too often. after a while of tripping all the time you lose the magic, you lose the benefits, and you can lose sight of whats important to you and why you're tripping in the first place. if you have any respect at all for the sacraments you're ingesting, i suggest cutting way back. i prefer very strong trips with a lot of time in between to ponder life and the experiences i've undergone, and see what i can learn from it. timothy leary was wrong on some counts, but he was on to something. your brain IS like a computer, and with certain "software" you CAN reprogram it, so to speak. you can explore your mind and reality, you can change how you think and find levels of spirituality and a love of life not found in many people if you do it right....... but these drugs aren't just like a computer disk that will instantly dump new knowledge into your head. what you do with your brain can be done without ANY psychedelics, in fact. psychedelics are a catalyst for change, but they won't instantly change you on your own. they're inspiration, a tool to help you see differently...they aren't the end result. at least, they shouldnt be. tripping is fun, so its easy to want to trip more than is useful. i dont recommend it, though. and its only beneficial to a select few who can handle it. be careful.
thanks for replying. it really doesnt feel like i'm tripping when i'm not, except for when i'm sitting in school sometimes it hits me for about 30 minutes and then goes away. It seems to do this only when i'm actually thinking about my trips and what they are doing for me. no one i know has said anything to me about acting different at all either, not even when i am tripping without drugs. -- i think part of the reason i may be tripping so often is because of my funky tolerance. sometimes i trip for maybe about two hours and then i am clear headed. i never get any visuals other than tracers which are very light. a large part of it may be my psyche but i dont know. the last trip i spoke of earlier wasn't even really that hard, think most of the reason i wanted it gone is because i wanted to go to sleep. so much info so little space... once again, all feed back is welcome.
strong visuals dont happen for most people i know, and at least certainly not for me, unless using particular substances or high dosages. for me OEVs won't start until around 5g+ of cubensis, or about 6 hits of the blotter usually seen around here. if you want visuals or spiritual experiences, much more profound substances or dosages are needed. say, salvia divinorum extracts, DPT, DMT, or just heavier dosages of what you're using. you aren't going to end up tripping 24 hours no matter how much you take or how frequently. its not going to be like you're tripping, its going to be more like a gradual shift in the way you perceive normal, sober reality. it will just -feel- different, and it comes with continual use of psychedelics (its probably different with salvia considering the enormous difference between tryptamine/phenethylamine drugs and salvinorin a) it is not that you will BE tripping.... at any rate your tolerance is not abnormal at all, people these days just have different opinions on how to trip than they did a long time ago, and dosages of everything are -generally- lower. partly so that dealers make more money, but whatever. i still suggest that you seriously consider reducing your intake. a good solid trip once or twice a year is just about right to properly integrate the experience and to prevent too dramatic of a long term effect. the changes brought about are changes in your mind, and are not necessarily reflected in behavior such as acting like you're tripping. its all in your head. its not something other people are likely to see or perceive, unless you go extremely overboard. there are few warning signs along the way. when it happened to me, it was a gradual realization. i can't tell you what to do, and its not a necessarily bad thing to be affected by your psychedelic use when sober.... but i'd suggest considering your actions and seriously considering slowing down. just because its not inherently negative doesnt make it an entirely positive thing.
nesta - as i read ur posts, i agree with u on mind expansion and not so often use, taht its not shrooms its the character soem will just trip stupidly whole time... but others will use theri brains and gain alot of stuff out of it... Shrooms helped me , to realize many things change lifestyle9 eating healthy , execise every day, no smoking) like these, and overall social eralizations..BUT i DO NOT AGEEE with you about 1-2 time use of psychodelics .... you are refering to ur own expirience taht got out of hand... too much psychodelics.. no time to overthink what have u expirienced and make decisions... i would say... 1-2 times in 3-4 months is a good way, or less... and not with 3-5 gramms. .but once or twice as i said with dose of 10 or more, to really understand whole mind-blowing energy that flows around while on shrooms.
I limit myself to one "special" drug(not weed) per month. This means that on the first weekend of every month I do a drug I wouldn't want to overdo(shrooms, peyote, opiates, extacsy, cocaine). This works to keep me from overdoing any one drug by spacing them out over a couple of months. I came up with it during the summer when I had copious amounts of shrooms and was tripping every weekend. I dunno, it seems to work for me. Of course I've squandered my last three months on oxycontin and vicoden. Blah. And Unfortunently more seems to be in the future for this saturday...sigh
polecat- then u didint understand anything..... For real shroomers, drugs liek cocaine, heroin, amphetamines , are dead due to their deadly properties.... he who understands life, loves life.
eh, I was just trying to make a more practical suggestion on how to limit the intake of substances you know you don't want to do very often. IMO ANYTHING can be overdone whether it be eating, drinking, or tripping. I'm not going to argue with you about what drugs are "bad" and which are "good", because that's all personal opinion...
It can go to personal opinion to some extent... but already known harmful effects can be no equality to harmless in physical plan psychedelic substances. trippidela- you are to young to understand, real shroomers are guys who have reached enlightenment like many professors and scientists and intellectuals who tryed shrooms and lsd.
It can go to personal opinion to some extent... but already known harmful effects can be no equality to harmless in physical plan psychedelic substances. trippidela- you are to young to understand, real shroomers are guys who have reached enlightenment like many professors and scientists and intellectuals who tryed shrooms and lsd. The ones understand what IS shrooming benefits and how to use them.
After my first use of LSD i realized a radical change in sober consciousness. My perception of reality had been altered not for worse in my opinion. I found out more about myself and how my brain worked than i ever had. If you feel like the "spaced out" feeling is bad you can slow down and your HPPD will slowly but surely die down. But I personally embraced it as an advantage, evolving spiritually and consciously. I think Leary and Ram Dass were onto somethin. Ive had my share of psychedelics and its all adding up in the grand scheme of things.
What I'm about to suggest maybe quite radical.........but if you use psychedelics (shrooms, mescaline, LSD, DMT, even high doses of cannabis) for spiritual uses, isn't it better to get used to your expanded consciousness while tripping? I know that the psychedelic mind state can be overwhelming for most people and not desirable all the time. However shouldn't your mind become how you are when you are on psychedelics without panicing? The psychedelic mindset is supposed to be superior to your normal conscious in many ways. Indeed thoughts become more clearer and creativity is enhanced to such an overwhelming degree that your brain is almost a super brain. Sure you may experiance HPPD and continue to hallucinate.....but is this necessarily a bad thing? If you learn to control your hallucinations they may come in handy in certain situations, as long as you can distinguise them from normal reality. If you think about it, hallucinations is your imagination on steroids.......being able to physically imagine what you are thinking is a powerful thing that shouldn't necessarily be looked down upon. If anyone has ever seen the show Dragonball Z, and interesting parellel can be made between being a super saiyen and tripping. Being a super saiyen consumes so much energy.....but in the cell saga Goku and Gohan learn to get used to the powerful energy drain of being a super saiyen until they can stay in that state all the time. In the same way if one becomes used to the dreamy state of psychedelics......perhaps they can reach a static conscious far more powerful than before. Think about the ancient/modern buddhist and hindu monks. Along with their consumption of psychedelics they also meditated.........this meditation can produce many of the same effects of psychedelic drugs. Yet these monks meditated all the time and would eventually become used to their new consciousness. If you really want to seek an enlightenment that will last your whole life.....why not get used to that spaced out feeling?
^^ Lol couldn't have been said any better. Psychedelics unlock doors don't be afraid to step through even after the initial experience is gone. I love the dragon ball z metaphor also . love and peace - kevin
Silverback- u are are right, the ones who can not handle this state, wont go far in life or wont enjoy even half of what real super brains can do.
