[23:09] Mavericks41991: my b [23:09] FUCH that: im gonna smoke some bud [23:10] FUCH that: ill ttyl guys [23:10] Ye Muchacho: must be all the pot [23:10] Ye Muchacho: haha i kid [23:10] Ye Muchacho: adios man [23:10] FUCH that: later brotha(s) [23:10] FUCH that: has left the chat [23:11] Ye Muchacho: But yeah, that is my main gripe with Buddhists. A lot of the teenagers use it as a crutch to uphold an imagine that they were a free spirit [23:11] Ye Muchacho: if you cant respect people, you are a fraud. [23:13] Mavericks41991: true that [23:13] Mavericks41991: if everyone followed the bibles teachings then the world would be perfect [23:13] Mavericks41991: well wait no [23:13] Mavericks41991: not the bibles [23:13] Mavericks41991: Jesus's [23:13] Mavericks41991: simply love one another [23:13] Mavericks41991: etc etc [23:13] Ye Muchacho: That is not the word of jesus my friend [23:13] Ye Muchacho: being curtious is simply common sense. [23:13] Mavericks41991: thats not jesus exact words [23:13] Mavericks41991: but its the main point [23:14] Ye Muchacho: follwoing the bible would lead to a much opressed nation where one would be ostrisized for having different beliefs [23:14] Mavericks41991: nope [23:14] Ye Muchacho: yep. [23:14] Mavericks41991: i kno where your going with this [23:14] Ye Muchacho: where is that (keep in mind, this is a chat, im not angry im just having a socialable debate) [23:14] Mavericks41991: kk [23:15] Mavericks41991: a TRUE christain, simply tells others about God and everything he does for us and they teach TRUE acts of love and kindness, and basically you get what you give in life [23:15] Mavericks41991: they dont force religion on em [23:15] Mavericks41991: they let them decide [23:15] paintballer6870: has joined the chat [23:15] Ye Muchacho: that can be argued [23:15] paintballer6870: sup [23:15] Mavericks41991: yo [23:15] Ye Muchacho: Buddhism does the same thing. and you are free to believe whatever you want [23:16] Mavericks41991: yes [23:16] Mavericks41991: its all the same [23:16] Ye Muchacho: No, no its not [23:16] paintballer6870: what is [23:16] Mavericks41991: how [23:16] Ye Muchacho: budhism vs christianity. [23:16] Ye Muchacho: they are very different. [23:16] Mavericks41991: yes [23:16] paintballer6870: heh [23:16] Mavericks41991: not in the same way were discussin [23:16] Ye Muchacho: How? for one there is a god in one of them.. [23:17] Ye Muchacho: Sin is simply man made. [23:17] paintballer6870: Muchacho wut's your hp name? [23:17] Ye Muchacho: swazo [23:17] paintballer6870: thought so [23:17] Mavericks41991: were debating the fact that christains and buddhist both beleive that everyone should respect others believes [23:17] Ye Muchacho: haha, why'd you think so? [23:18] paintballer6870: thats not quite true [23:18] paintballer6870: i know many christians who viciously attack my beliefs [23:18] Mavericks41991: a true christain doesnt dosnt hate/curse others that dont believe in God [23:18] paintballer6870: o cuz you posted on hipforums [23:18] paintballer6870: brb [23:18] Ye Muchacho: As do i. it depends on the christian. I know many who simply live their life as a christian not pressing on their beliefs\ [23:18] Ye Muchacho: a "true" christian. lol [23:18] Mavericks41991: yes, what jesus wants us to be [23:18] Ye Muchacho: There is no definition of a true christian [23:19] Mavericks41991: not fake christains who think there better than everyone [23:19] Ye Muchacho: The bible can be interpreted over 1000 ways man [23:19] Mavericks41991: im not like that [23:19] Ye Muchacho: put it to you this way [23:19] Ye Muchacho: over 10 times in the bible does god say Get thee behind me satan" [23:19] Ye Muchacho: how do you interpret that. [23:19] Ye Muchacho: cause i can tell you how i do [23:19] Mavericks41991: i need to know whats around it [23:19] Mavericks41991: what the message/story is [23:20] Ye Muchacho: http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/151300.html [23:20] Ye Muchacho: Its not important though [23:20] Mavericks41991: whats that have to do with anything? [23:20] Ye Muchacho: I suppose you dont understand my point [23:20] Ye Muchacho: Everyone interprets the bible in many ways [23:21] Mavericks41991: im just saying..the world would be PERFECT if everyone acted as jesus did when he was on earth [23:21] Ye Muchacho: There is no true christian [23:21] Mavericks41991: i dont believe in religion [23:21] Ye Muchacho: I would have to disagree and state that the world would be rather boring [23:21] Mavericks41991: i belive in God [23:21] Mavericks41991: so murder is fun? [23:21] Mavericks41991: stealing is fun? [23:22] Ye Muchacho: You can make anything bad by looking at the negatives. [23:22] Mavericks41991: so murder can be good? [23:22] Ye Muchacho: Not what I am saying at all [23:22] Ye Muchacho: Im saying that sometimes being different or "breaking the rules" [23:23] Ye Muchacho: isnt always a bad thing [23:23] Ye Muchacho: According to jesus masturbating is wrong [23:23] Mavericks41991: i dont believe in religion, i believe the qoran or w/e and the bible are metaphors for the right guidlines to live in our life [23:23] Ye Muchacho: Hah, i know about 2 billion men who would argue that [23:23] Ye Muchacho: that is simply it [23:23] Ye Muchacho: its a way to try to live your life, but at the same time provides false hope [23:23] paintballer6870: has left the chat [23:24] Mavericks41991: it doesnt provide false hope, read near death expiriences [23:24] Mavericks41991: atheist are no longer afraid of death man [23:24] paintballer6870: has joined the chat [23:24] Mavericks41991: atheist become ministers because of the stuff they seen when they died [23:24] Ye Muchacho: You will not convince me there is a god. I am a man of science. [23:24] Mavericks41991: im just saying [23:24] Ye Muchacho: Your god is letting thousands die in Iraw [23:24] Ye Muchacho: Iraq [23:24] Ye Muchacho: everything happens for a reason... inexplainable. [23:25] Mavericks41991: all for a reason we dont know yet until we die [23:25] Ye Muchacho: I dont care what you say, Having a 3 year old baby tortured is not justifyable [23:25] Mavericks41991: death? who cares..whats so bad about death? [23:25] Mavericks41991: every end is a new beginning [23:25] Ye Muchacho: Torture before death? [23:25] Ye Muchacho: How about watching a family member die. Whho cares about death [23:25] Ye Muchacho: i watched my grandmother die after doctors cut the feeding tube [23:26] Mavericks41991: its all for a reason [23:26] Ye Muchacho: before my eyes [23:26] Mavericks41991: all of it [23:26] Ye Muchacho: there is no reason [23:26] Ye Muchacho: no [23:26] Mavericks41991: its for a reason [23:26] Mavericks41991: yes [23:26] Ye Muchacho: Man, you cant tell me the children dying from slavery is for a reason [23:26] Ye Muchacho: there is no way you can justify the thousands of kids being tortured and killed [23:26] paintballer6870: has left the chat [23:26] Ye Muchacho: because a god says its for areason [23:26] Mavericks41991: how do we know in there past life they wont murders? [23:26] Mavericks41991: werent* [23:27] Ye Muchacho: Past lives.... see, its all speculation [23:27] Ye Muchacho: how do you know there is a past life [23:27] Mavericks41991: we dont [23:27] Ye Muchacho: You donit [23:27] Ye Muchacho: you use that "myth" as a was of justifying reality [23:27] Ye Muchacho: it doesent work like that [23:27] Ye Muchacho: if there was no after life, you argument is not substantial [23:27] Mavericks41991: nope, its all in near death expiriences..im talking about things happeing for a reason..not reincarnation [23:28] Mavericks41991: you wont read any [23:28] Mavericks41991: so u wont know [23:28] Ye Muchacho: im going to have to strongly disagree. [23:28] Ye Muchacho: When you've watched people you love die before your eyes in a painful way, you dont need to [23:28] Ye Muchacho: No god who loves people would ever put someone through that [23:28] Mavericks41991: man if you knew what death was, you would be happy there dead [23:28] Ye Muchacho: How do you know death is a good thing [23:29] Ye Muchacho: What if its just nothing [23:29] Ye Muchacho: a black abyss. [23:29] Mavericks41991: its all in the expiriences of people actually deing [23:29] Mavericks41991: its all there man [23:29] Mavericks41991: just read em [23:29] Ye Muchacho: The brain goes through many chemical processes when dying [23:29] Mavericks41991: ok, so these million of people all claim life after death, and ALL of them are because of your brain? [23:30] Mavericks41991: these people come back to earth with more knowledge than ever [23:30] Ye Muchacho: I wouldent put it past the human brain [23:30] Mavericks41991: what about blind people [23:30] Mavericks41991: they see in NDE [23:30] Ye Muchacho: Look at LSD and psyclobin [23:30] Ye Muchacho: its like going to the "afterlife" coming back with more knowledge. [23:30] Mavericks41991: waaay differant [23:30] Ye Muchacho: no, its not, its a chemical process [23:31] Ye Muchacho: relgiions and god is the source of all war. [23:31] Ye Muchacho: all pain [23:31] Ye Muchacho: there would be no fighting if not for religion and god, etc [23:31] Mavericks41991: so you just proved that death is a place that your brain creates [23:31] Mavericks41991: but.. [23:31] Mavericks41991: i thought it was a black abyss? [23:31] Ye Muchacho: I said what if [23:31] Ye Muchacho: I didnt state it was. [23:32] Ye Muchacho: I dont know what DEATH is. but im not about to believe its by a figure that no one has even truly seen [23:32] Mavericks41991: if you read these man, you would see all the characteristics that each person expiriences [23:32] Mavericks41991: but u wont read em [23:32] Ye Muchacho: you remind me of the John Edwards followers. [23:33] Ye Muchacho: Who believe anything without playing devils advocate. [23:33] Mavericks41991: so every single person who has a near-death expirience claims there at total peace and come in contact with a bright light that appears to be jesus and etc [23:33] Mavericks41991: soo all of em must be a brain chemicle thing [23:33] Ye Muchacho: There is no science behind that [23:33] Ye Muchacho: Yes [23:33] Ye Muchacho: there is ZERO proof besides what people can recall [23:33] Ye Muchacho: christ, thats what the bible is [23:33] Mavericks41991: what more do u need???? [23:33] Ye Muchacho: what people can remember [23:33] Ye Muchacho: PROOF [23:34] Ye Muchacho: Science! you know [23:34] Mavericks41991: it is [23:34] Ye Muchacho: things that show something and how it really works [23:34] Ye Muchacho: No its not proof [23:34] Ye Muchacho: its the lowest form of proof. [23:34] Mavericks41991: if someone witnesses a murder, but they cant prove it, did they not witness it? [23:34] Ye Muchacho: If i had 1 million people saying everytime they went to sleep a god told them to kill their mother and they did [23:34] Ye Muchacho: would that make them insane... [23:35] Ye Muchacho: or would that be god ? [23:35] Mavericks41991: no..that would just never happen [23:35] Ye Muchacho: just like the afterlife. [23:35] Mavericks41991: people expirience it tho [23:35] Ye Muchacho: Until i have scientific proof, there is no god [23:35] Ye Muchacho: so what? [23:35] Ye Muchacho: dont believe everything you hear. [23:35] Ye Muchacho: People are the best liars. [23:35] Mavericks41991: ill believe it when millions say the same thing [23:36] Mavericks41991: millions from all over the world [23:36] Mavericks41991: people i know personally [23:36] Ye Muchacho: Hitler had millions believing jews were the enemy. [23:36] Ye Muchacho: look where that got him [23:36] Mavericks41991: they never expieinced any jews being enemys [23:36] Mavericks41991: they were just told [23:36] Ye Muchacho: sure they did [23:36] Ye Muchacho: no [23:36] Ye Muchacho: Jews had all the money. [23:36] Ye Muchacho: so they MUST have been evi. [23:36] Mavericks41991: cuz they saved it all [23:36] Mavericks41991: ZING [23:36] Ye Muchacho: No [23:36] Mavericks41991: jk [23:37] Ye Muchacho: its like you're getting your facts from cartoons or something [23:37] Mavericks41991: no im getting facts from people who have expirienced things [23:37] Ye Muchacho: People are not facts [23:37] Ye Muchacho: when i did mushrooms i expierence shit too. [23:37] Ye Muchacho: doesent make any of it real [23:38] Mavericks41991: so your telling me everyone whos had an NDE has lied and made up the whole thing? [23:38] Ye Muchacho: Im saying there is more to it then what they are telling you [23:38] Ye Muchacho: or what you are reading and that you are believing wahts in front of you [23:38] Ye Muchacho: but i have chemsitry and math homework. so im off. [23:38] Ye Muchacho: was a slice [23:38] Ye Muchacho: adios [23:39] Mavericks41991: an atheist who who expirienced Gods ultimate power and who has seen the after life and expirienced it so much that he devotes his whole life to telling others about God [23:39] Mavericks41991: is lieing [23:39] Mavericks41991: nah [23:39] Mavericks41991: ok adios
I'm glad I didn't install AIM for a religious debate. Lets end it hear at religion is stupid delusional and superstitious. What do you people fear so much as to submit yourself to that?
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