our fukked morals

Is it any wonder that many murderers and other violent criminals are often motivated by sexual repression? Their natural desire for physical love and affection during childhood is constantly denied, mainly due to the paranoia surrounding any intimate act involving children (including simple hugging and cuddling). They learn that their yearning for affection is wrong and should never be met, so they search for a release that IS acceptable, and what do they find? Violence! They are saturated with the notion that violence is more realistic and accessible than the physical intimacy they crave. So they now have an outlet for their frustration, and they begin to hunt for victims. Voila.

 

Oh please.

I mean I getcha to an extent but you're pushing it. It IS a wonder that people rape, murder or molest because of their "sex repression" or "getting pushed away as a child"- Seriously, go to an adult cuddle party or get a teddy bear and get over it.

Yeah, it is a wonder. Any connection is just an excuse.

 

Omg... My daddy didnt hold me enough... Now I must go find a six year old to hold or maybe rape that sexy girl that lives down the street.

Daddddddy... you should have held me.

Give me a break.

 

I would label is as "sexual" repression but as "emotional" repression. Sex is just one out of many emotional factor.

Ya know, rapists don't rape because of the sex itself, it's because of the emotions behind it, the social stigmata, and need of sexual acceptance, lack of love, etc. \

Very good point though.

 

Rapists rape because of lack of love?

I was pretty sure the word "love" had nothing to do with it. Rape is a HATE crime, not a sex OR love crime. It has nothing to do with either.

 

I waas just giving examples. My point is that rape is emotional, not just sexual. Hate is also an emotion... but you cannot categorise rape as a "hate crime", there is much more to it.

 

I have to disagree with you- nothing personal... but I think when it boils down to it, rape is always a hate crime. Try to come with one example that it's not. Then again, I guess it would depend on the individuals definition of "hate crime"- my idea may be more lenient then yours. But all rape to me isn't about respect for another person, wanting to be with them.. that's sex... rape is about- anger, fear, bad memories, wanting to control, etc.- all of those things are hate emotions to me.

 

how could anyone find violence as acceptable??

people are incarcerated for it all the time.

 

I do not see how "fear" is exclusively a hate emotion, together with bad memories... you are categorizing rather viciously.

Rape has been around throughout all of humanity and has been socially acceptable in the past.

Were the Vikings raping the people they conquered out of hate? Or were they doing it because it was socially acceptable in their group, because they were expected to do so by their peers, and because of animalistic sexual desires?

 

I'm not much for traditions or "the way things have always been"- in my family the women wait on men hand and foot on holidays...hah- I'll cook but the men are gonna do my dishes if they were relaxing the hours I cooked. Oops, I broke tradition there and they think I'm crazy.. Oh well

So rape being around all through humanity has nothing to do with this in my opinion. I mean, of course it has... I didnt think modern humans INVENTED it. Haha.

And it may appear I was catagorizing generally or too specifically but think about it. You become so fearful that you go and rape some innocent person- is the part of the soul that is involved in love or hate involved in that? It might all seem like an oversimplification- but if you really think about it, the same emotions that are involved in hate are involved in rape- I'd dare say 99.999 percent of the time. I'd say 100 but I never say that.

 

Actually, Rubin, after re-reading your viking comment- you may have a point about situations in the past and/or in different societies. I have pretty much been thinking about modern times though.

 

god, is rape really all that bad?? :drool:

 

No, rape is good. Go rape someone right now.

 

what i really meant in the original post was that the media and the government both are guilty of making it socially acceptable to view murders, violence, hateful acts, vengeance, deception. I was watching merry melodies this morning and saw an episode where a little birdy was suicidal and was trying to get sylvester to eat it. the whole episode this cute little sad birdy wanted to die and sylvester wouldnt do it cuz he thought he was poisoned.

now, you never see an episode where peppe le'pew actually gets any action from that kitty cat cuz that would be going too far. maybe they smooched a couple times but thats it.

but cyote and roadrunner? all about the stalking, premeditated attempted murder, fake birdseed and all that goood shit. no love or romance.

the news--ALL death and destruction and sensationalized abduction stories.

 

Well, okay then, cartoons can actually be so fucked up. When I think about some of the shit I watched as a kid... it's kinda scary.

 

of course I was kidding, but I guess you got that.

anyway, I could never understand the impulse for rape. it seems like the ultimate sociopathic act. I do beleive rape begets rape.

 

I could understand murder easier then rape... seriously. Though I would never do either. Murder under some circumstances I could at least understand why the person felt that way... rape- yeah, I think you have it right with the ultimate sociopathic act.... anyone can get sex. It's so obviously not about sex- just about control and yes, again...hate. It's sickening.

 

also, think about the sexual predator database.

now think about the murderer database.. oh wait, there isnt one.

when im playing with my friends' kids, im always a little bit nervous cuz someone might accuse me of touching them inappropriately, nevermind the fact that i didnt. but if i throw them across the room and make them bust their face wide open on the coffee table, its allright "cuz itll make em tough.".

 

i had a friend was a pedophile. his family hated him. he kept rapin this retarded kid lived next door. antonio. he was stuck on stupid. i was 17 let him stay in my trailor. sold coke to suburban kids ,yep im also a scumbag hence my care. i got older n realized its everyones job to look after folks u care for. i cared fer antonio. hed show me nambla card n shit. i have a hard time fucking up people who dont scrap in my direction. even harder time friends who have heart fer fights n now a value. so no i didnt cut him kill him none of that. he got apeshit one night n i knocked him out put his tequila n sandwich bag of coke under my step. his aunt n uncle couldnt get there heart together to kill him ether. most people dont have to make fucked up choices. n im thinking that most people wouldnt see my dillema. im outside hes outside. im hopin i dont end up in sum ugly shit. im not a cold blooded murder. not rational ,fuck im a bad judge of character. by most standards.people got this n that memories n stories build stories. put yourself in ugly situations. alot easier. immediate shit . i never sat by fer shit. judge easy fuckers. all sortsa fuckers run up. quiet down real quick too.fuckin bad ugly. i miss sum people.even antonio aint my job to baby sit tho isit. fuck with the kids i care about, he was a kid too. sum profuse apologys. anthony i could give a fuck . its a trailer who cares. get you a boyfriend ok? sumone you can respect.

 

Well, the world isn't fair. I have a drug charge and I'm pretty much fucked yet there are murderers with the same charge and a lot more protection.

There are people that go to jail for possesing pot and stay in for 20 to 30 years and murderers that get out in 5 to 10. It's bullshit.

My little neighbor boy (about three years old) was out in the parking lot the other week (around valentine's day) when we had a huge ice storm and my husband and I were using the ice pick to try to get the cars out... the little boys mom was about a block away helping other people... he came up to me (the little boy) and said "can you take me into my mommy's house?" and I froze. I want kids and I love kids. the poor baby was COLD.... but the fear of it people saw me taking him inside...see, i dont know those neighbors...they havent lived here but two months. and i had to tell him to go ask his mom.

Why in the world you have to be afraid to help kids out, hug them, hold their hand and walk with them? well, it's sad but it's how the world is.

rape is seperate though.