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I was in Kewsick with six other fellas on Saturday night who are all at a certain age; old, 30+. Close to us were five gay lads. We ourselves were loud and boisterous, having a laugh without being offensive or crude at all. What got me was the gay lads were talking about all their sexual exploits loud enough for the whole pub to hear! It was all sucking, wanking, up the arse, etc. I mean if this was us we would be dragged across the coals and shot; woman wouldn't talk openly or loud enough for everyone to hear, so what's all that about?

 

so your saying that straight men and women can't be crude and load about their sexuality, well I beg to differ, maybe you just hear gay men more because your uncomfortable with this kind of sexuality and when straight people are load about their sexuality, its not an issue so it just does't register.
I can't stand this kind of sterotyping and find it offensive
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I think Samhain's probably right. If a straight person was doing it, it'd probably just pass under the radar. It's societal prejudices that tell us that homosexual exploits are unusual or deviant that have them trip people's switches....

 

i wish people would sodding think about who's around before they post stuff like this
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Posting stuff like what? What was wrong with my post? I wasn't implying that homosexual sex is unusual or deviant, I'm saying societal prejudices tell some people to think they are. It's these sorts of subtle prejudices that need combatting through information and education....

 

that was aimed at the original poster Peace!
its the presumation that just because he's straight, he won't offend because gay people won't post in here.
BTW no pun intended with my use of the word 'sodding'
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No I'd beg to differ, straight men and women cannot be loud and crude about their sexuality in a public place, it is deemed as disrespectful and demeaning, you might even get prosecuted for it.

Now I'll also agree with mellows observation that it is almost stereotypical behaviour by the gay community, unfairly I will say but nonetheless it is observed.

But maybe we just live in different worlds.
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Surely the law would apply to lewd behaviour in a public place whether to straight or gay people. None of my gay friends are particularly loud about their sexual lives. Most have long-term partners and, like most people, keep their sex lives private. I certainly don't shout about mine, just because it's a man they're in a long term relationship with doesn't mean they'll talk any louder about it. It's possible some people might feel the need to assert their sexuality loudly to flount prejudices (Little Britain being a great satire on that). If that's so, and I've no particular experience to say that is so, then the blame should lie at the feet of a society that perpetuates those prejudices....

 

yes I think we do.
I also think you must come from mars if you have never heard young people making loud and crude statements in the street, i did even when I lived in rural England, in fact more than I did hear gay people, because the area I lived in was intolerant of gay people
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I think this thread shows homophobic tendancies in people that would probably not admit to it because theyw ould never go out and gay bash, however homophobia has always been far more than that
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I don't think he's talking about Gay people in general. He's talking about the Gay people that were around him at the time. I would be disgusted if anyone started talking about sex in such a manner around me in a pub. Be they gay, straight, or whatever the fuck they want. If you're going to talk about sex there's no need to be so loud about it as if it was like talking about the weather.

 

I deliberately posted this to get such a reaction. Of cause straight people are crude but as my point has made if we were sitting there talking about how big a girl's tits were or how many cocks she could take and spit roasting her, licking her out etc.. we would be approached there and then, and rightly so. I guess part of the reason these lads weren't asked to calm it down was because they were gay, and people didn't know how to handle the situation, as Peace touched on. But here we are defending such behaviour because they happen to be a 'minority group'. What about everyone else in that pub, do they not count?
Again I'm being blasted because I dare suggest that it may not be appropriate, straight or gay, to talk about such topics at the top of your voice for all to hear. It still doesn't make it right, and as I said in the thread people don't talk in such a way for others to hear unless they are trying to provoke an ugly situation, fact! It happens to be about a bunch of gay lads because this situation happen to be about their sex life at that time. Stereotyping, what are you talking about!!! You'll make the point that I'm homophobic next, to which I'll have to reply that I have gay freinds, which would be a cliche. Liberal fascism, which dictator could we blame for this.

 

Too right LA, you got ther before me.

 

in that case he should have used another example of when straight people have done it or just have made a staement about crude comments in public, what he said was sterotyping
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you could have approached the bar staff at any time and asked them to deal with it.
you said that women don't shout about their sexuality in your original post, by making the statement that hints that gay people do it and straight people don't, shows intolerance on your part.
and most homophobic stataments are directly followed by 'some of my best friends are gay'
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The trouble is, and as much as I hate to drag Karl Popper into this, inferring general laws from limited examples. I'm not sure if you talked about this, but I think Dapablo mentioned it. A few limited examples of gay people behaving in this way is not enough to suggest that it's a factor for the whole gay community. I have plenty of examples of straight people acting in this way, and not being rebuked, and I think you'll get certain people everywhere who just don't know how to behave politely in public. It's a matter of manners, not sexuality....

 

Come on, Sam, is that a rule these days? If he was talking about straight people, he wouldn't have made a comparision with Gay people because it wouldn't occure to him, nor would it to me. I think he just typed it without thinking; I don't think he intentionally meant to cause offense. Is there really need for a comparison, for him to tip-toe around talking about Gay people?

 

Here-here!

 

reread the posts he's suggesting that only gay people are crude about their sexuality in public
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Playing devil's advocate.

Let's be honest if woman was shouting at the top of her voice about all that your feeilngs would be just as disgusted at her in the way you have taken offence at me!