Is this right

Discussion in 'Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, etc.' started by clitz34, Mar 8, 2007.

  1. clitz34

    clitz34 Member

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    Everytime I go to online chat forums, I notice that those who say negative comments about us gays that some of them try to compare us as being as unnatural and sick as those who have sex with animals.

    Here is an exact quote of what someone said."Men are meant to have sex with woman and women are meant to have sex with men any other way is wrong. Two people of the same sex having sex witheachother is about as sick and unnatural as a man having sex with his dog".

    Is it right to say that, of course I dont agree with it at all, I just wonder what your opinion is regarding on this subject
     
  2. CloudFlower

    CloudFlower Member

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    I'm on even ground as far as gay issues go. I might not be gay but I surely have alot of friends that are. I don't think it is wrong or anything, I think it is wrong for somebody to ridicule someone that is gay though. Last year at the Montana university
    some poor guy was nearly beaten to death because he was gay.... It is worse to be judgmental of things like this than to just be alright with it. Personally I think everyone should be allowed to have their own sexual prefrance without being harrassed about it
     
  3. SelfControl

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    I've encountered people in real life who actually think "yeah, but when chicks do it it's hot" is a valid argument. Like, you'll think they're joking, but no, that literally is their whole position. :rolleyes:
     
  4. SR21

    SR21 Member

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    I've met lots of people like that.

    If people are going to use nature as an argument you have to assume it's wrong that anyone should have sex beyond the age of about 50/whenever they have the menopause. Should probably also do away with condoms, they're not natural. And so forth.
     
  5. SelfControl

    SelfControl Boned.

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    Naturewise, they shouldn't even be alive at 50. Also because old people are wrong.
     
  6. dapablo

    dapablo redefining

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    the penis requires rythmic movement to ejeculate, how this is done it don't really care so anything that assists can be deemed as natural.

    Peoples brains are a different matter, worrying what other peoples penis's do is really none of there business, and secondly why do they care?
     
  7. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    There's enough evidence in the animal kingdom to suggest that homosexual practice is natural, indeed to some degree biological. Some animals are predisposed from birth towards homosexuality. In human society, it is of course more complex, and there are a variety of social and cultural issues which affect individual choice, but there is still a crucial element that some people are just naturally gay. Of all the animals Banoboes are perhaps the most sexually liberated. Whilst they have sex heterosexually to reproduce, they also have sex for fun and to serve all manner of social situations. Here, gender is irrelevant, Bonoboes are not hung up either way....
     
  8. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    Not even in the animal kingdom, just look at History.
    Places such as Persia (Iran), Japan and China have all been known to have men who have participated in homosexual acts a few thousand years ago and still to this day.
     
  9. moonlightdelerium

    moonlightdelerium Senior Member

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    About a year and a half ago these Catholic Priests came to my house to pray. They were nice enough and seemed to have good intentions in that all donations made were to go to building villages in Africa. About a half hour into our conversation they went into the history of some saint who, apparently, was sainted for hurting and sometimes killing homosexuals. I got very mad. When I told them of my bisexuality they took the liberty of informing me what I was doing was equal to raping a sheep and that it also violated the first of the ten commandments. I argued back, saying that, for one thing, girls are still part of the human species and having a boyfriend would be violating the first of the ten commandments too, if they're looking at it from that perspective. They left, sort of disturbed, after.
     
  10. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    yeh building villages in Africa to spread their evil.
     
  11. SelfControl

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    To be honest, fuck the animal kingdom and the Ancient Greeks. Why should we have to cite precedent to justify what is basically harmless and normal? I'm kinda sick of pandering to the "everything must be natural" argument. Everything is natural, if it's possible, and there's a fuckload of things about the animal that I don't condone.
     
  12. dances in pajamas

    dances in pajamas strange little girl

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    I know that everyone has their own opinions, but when it comes to voicing ideas on issues like homosexuality, people need to learn when to keep their goddamn traps shut. And like Self Control said, you're excuse for not prosecuting a woman for having sex with another woman is, "But it's hot when chicks do it with each other." You may think it's wrong, but you don't have to verbally abuse people and tell them they're unnatural. What's unnatural is denying your sexuality.
     
  13. SelfControl

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    I can't remember who it was who said that "the only unnatural kind of sex is not having any". It was someone well respected though.
     
  14. Cipher

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    How would saying that be "right"? judging on the animal kingdom, gay is completely natural, whereas i don't think that interspecies sex has shown to be, there are even gay insects, so no, that is a very invalid arguement.
     
  15. SelfControl

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    It's a generalisation, probably made by someone na•ve enough not to consider bestiality or whatever. But I don't know, maybe if/when we make contact with other sentient species, we'll have to reconsider how we feel about interspecies relations...
     
  16. pianoperson60

    pianoperson60 Senior Member

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    Love just is, and theres no need to overanalyze it, but of cousre sadly theres the poeple caught up in their own insecurities who ruin it for a bunch of us.
     
  17. Loveminx

    Loveminx Sports Racer

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    Just do what feels good as long as you don't harm anyone in the process. :)

    (no fucking sheep, rape, voting for bush...etc)
     

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