Amanita Muscaria eating

Discussion in 'Exotic Psychedelic Plants' started by Geneity, Mar 9, 2007.

  1. Geneity

    Geneity self-proclaimed advocate

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    So I got an oz. of Siberian Grade A Amanitas from an online source.

    Not sure on the dosing exactly. From what I've been reading, somewhere between 7-14g's of caps. They're all caps in my bag anyway, so yay for that. Theres also powder in the bag. Should I just mix that with some tea to get it down? Or maybe even snort it? Though I wouldn't think snorting would do much, lol.

    Second, I want to heat them to convert the Ibotenic Acid to Muscimol. I was thinking like 350F for 10 minutes might do the trick?

    You guys have been a big help in all my crazy questions, thanks =)
     
  2. OctopusNightstand

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    They came online wet? If they are dry i dont believe you can remove the acid. And 300 Degrees would destroy any hallucinogenic properties.
     
  3. Geneity

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    Well they came dry, but I always hear of people cooking them slightly to convert more alkaloids. I supposed I'll just eat them as they are in that case, =P
     
  4. PsyGrunge

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    Right, if you're buying them and they're the same types I've eaten tonnes of since the shroom ban with the Salvia logo on the bottom and a card with information about ''Vikings eating them to enter the berzerker state of mind before battle'', theb they've been dried and heated, and the Ibotenic Acid would of been converted to Muscimol. A lot of people who play on the facts with Fly Argaric in Hed Shops and streets alike try to give useless and above all fake information. You might know that if you pick the wrong kind of Fly Argaric, it can destroy your insides gradually over time making you violently ill. People in the past have tried advising their product by saying things like 'These have been heated so that the deadly chemical, Ibotenic Acid is converted into Muscimol, the most active part of Fly Argarics'. Bollocks. Someone tried tricking me into actually believing they were safer because they were heated.
    Well, I've eaten loads, I've had different kinds of trips from them, and I haven't died from any dodgy ones yet.
    I wouldn't advise heating them yourself without some thorough extensive research i.e. don't find one website and work from that; research into many different websites to get the overall facts (as some sites may tend to exaggerate, especially anti-drug sites), shit, you know how it is with researching.
    And.. are you sure you want to dry them out anyway? You do know that it lessens the potency, right? Marketed mushrooms don't get you half as fucked as those wet ones you say you have now. Put simply, the dried out Fly Argarics you'd find in Hed Shops and online stores are worthless to a serious Soma user who seeks the spiritual qualities.
     
  5. Geneity

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    Well, they're Siberian Grade A Caps, they did come dried, I said that in the above post.

    Yeah, thanks though, I won't be heating them, hehe.
     
  6. PsyGrunge

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    It's weird:- from mass extensive research on the subject I've found that heating them is wise because the converted chemical Muscimol is the most active chemical in Fly Argarics;
    But DRYING THEM OUT lessens the potency.
    By all means, try and find a method of heating that doesn't dry them out!
     
  7. jimmydean885

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    rice steamer?
     
  8. PsyGrunge

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    Try it and replace that question mark with an exclamation mark, innit.
     
  9. Geneity

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    Well, I wrote up a bit of a report. Nothing too crazy.


    Substance: Amanita Muscaria
    Amount: about 7 grams
    Setting: My house
    People: “J” and I

    At about 7:30 PM, a friend and I, we’ll call him J, had busted out the Amanitas we got from an online shop. I had a bunch of pieces of cap on a paper plate, and he made a tea out of his 14 grams of material. I made a tea out of some powder I had left over from my 14 grams.

    I tasted one, all crunchy and crap. They didn’t taste too bad, but they certainly didn’t taste very good. In fact, I would start gagging later on while still eating them, as it got harder and harder. As I was eating them over the course of the next 30 or so minutes, my friend was steeping his material in a big ‘ol bowl.

    He ended up making a lot of tea, a gross amount. I made less than a cups worth. I just kept shoving in pieces. The texture, after they’re chewed and saturated with salvia, is absolutely disgusting, The texture was enough to make me gag like 5 or 6 times, with the last 2 actually getting a tiny bit of vomit up into my mouth, yum! The texture was like chewing a big wad of snot and was very hard to get down the throat without gagging. Truly grotesque.

    Anyway, after I got a bunch of mouthfuls down, I noticed significant nausea, and went to lie down on the couch. Had I tried to continue to eat what was left on my plate at this point, I would’ve puked all over the place. The nausea got worse and worse as I was lying down, and after about 20 or 30 minutes, I felt pretty weird, like the onset of a DXM trip. The feeling was exactly the same. It was now closer to 8:20 PM. I rushed to the bathroom to throw up and as soon as I got over the toilet I started spewing. It wasn’t too bad. Sometimes vomiting feel really, really horrible, like when you vomit before a pure DXM trip kicks into full gear.

    This was nothing like DXM nausea or like vomiting on DXM; it was much smoother and easier. I threw up for about a minute, with some very uneasy feeling for a few minutes after. Then I got up, washed myself a little, and felt much, MUCH better. I highly suggest letting yourself puke at this point, you’ll feel much better after.

    I then proceeded to run around and start throwing around random things that came into my head. It felt pretty fun. Just like the onset of a DXM trip, but limbs felt rubber bandy like. I felt like a big rubber band running around for a while, it was pretty fun.

    My friend, J, had decided not to drink his tea right now, so we hid it downstairs in a big bowl. I had held off on smoking the weed we had before so I could get a good grasp on what the amanitas would do, I didn’t want to have to discern between the two when it would be impossible. So after taking a shower with J, we decided to go out and smoke what we had left of the haze.

    This was some pretty damn good weed. The high was amazing. I loved haze quite a lot, so I was really excited when we went to smoke. I loaded the bowl as he walked around the house, and we started to smoke. During the smoking, full-on auditory hallucinations began. Haze normally makes me hallucinate people talking in hidden places, but with the amanitas in the background, I heard trains and all sorts of shit. After smoking, we had planned to walk around the neighborhood a little, but I was far too paranoid at this point to anything involving outside. I was too scared to even smoke a cigarette, boo me.

    Pretty much all I remember after this was falling asleep at some point, and waking up today feeling pretty refreshed and good, not like I normally do after smoking the night before. Next time, I’m just going to order the 10x, instead of having to eat all these disgusting caps.
     
  10. PsyGrunge

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    Cool, you've found the way of the Fly!
    To me they smelt of dried female sex juice and tasted like twiglets.
    A combination from hell, disgusting.
     
  11. Geneity

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    hahaha! Yeah they were pretty freakin' nasty.
     
  12. IzzyToxic

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    LOL - I have to agree with you about the taste of a. muscaria. I have only been doing amanita shrooms for a couple or three months now, but I either do those or Peruvian cactus pretty much any night that I'm off work.

    I started with a. muscaria and the first time or two I chewed the dry crunchy caps. Then I found that I could keep my taste buds from hating my guts by breaking the smelly dry caps into bite-sized pieces and letting them soak in my glass of orange juice or fresh limeade. After a minute or two I put them on a paper plate and let them sit for a couple of minutes until they become soft and spongy. Then, I fold a piece in half and let it slide right down with a gulp of juice. Sometimes I will spread some muscaria extract on the cap piece before I fold it in half. Kind of like a shroom newton. It gets me buzzed and the only time I get nauseous is later when they start digesting, if even at all.

    It just so happens that I have some panther caps (amanita pantherina) on my plate right here next to my keyboard. I actually prefer the panthers to the fly agaric. Although they're not nearly as pretty, they average about twice the muscimol than do the muscaria. Another thing I like about the panther caps is that they are not nearly as thick as the fly agaric and they don't have that puke-like smell of the a. muscaria. If you decide to try the panthers, then you will probably want to be a little more selective in choosing them than is necessary when buying the muscaria shrooms. The first site that I got panther caps from sent me some piss poor looking a. pantherina shrooms. The baggie was half full of wood (stems). Of course, just like with weed that's a rip-off. Also, the shrooms looked like somebody had stomped on them as they were all in small pieces and were generally nasty looking. Since that first time, though, I have found a couple of sites that have pretty nice ones - one site, in particular, has mostly full caps with very few stems. A few of the panther caps looked very much to me like "Famous Amos" chocolate chip cookies. Even before I started tripping.
     

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