How can you justify or excuse suicide?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Gravity, Mar 10, 2007.

  1. Gravity

    Gravity #winning

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    It's nothing more than an unappreciative cowards way out of life. I mean, kids these days are falling at the first hurdle, but instead of trying again or walking round it, they'd rather swing from it.

    It's selfish. We were reading the paper today at college and some knob head teacher killed himself because he got sacked and everyone was fucking feeling bad for him.

    This teachers son found him hanging from a door frame. I can't remember how old the son was, but he was old enough to know his father had killed himself. He's left behind a daughter too, as well as his wife.

    How can anyone sympathise with a piece of shit like that? It's criminal for men to abandon their children, but he kills himself and you nonces try to justify it.

    My strong personality and resolve come from going through violent depression.

    I guess it's the experience that makes the person and anyone who kills themselves over being depressed or feeling hard done by, doesn't deserve to live anyway.

    I just object to people who think it's customary to feel sympathy for some selfish, obnoxious twat who wants a bit of attention before he pussies out of life.
     
  2. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    i've come to the conclusion that they're clearly mentally ill, and i can't be mad at the mentally ill for doing the sorts of things that the mentally ill do. saves me a lotta grief.
     
  3. MollyThe Hippy

    MollyThe Hippy get high school

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    i think most people commit suicide out of curiosity... to see what happens when you die
     
  4. makno

    makno Senior Member

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    i dont see why suicide should inspire anger in those left living . i cant see why a healthy person should want to kill themselves either .....but if your sick or phisicaly fucked up so you cant do what you want.....once life becomes unceaceing pain and theres diminishing ability to acomplish anything , i can see where bowing out of the worst part of it would be preferred to being forced to unnaturaly survive when it probly wont get better .with out a living will saying that you dont want to be put on a machiene ...they prolong agony needlessly in obvously terminal peeps and thats cruel n stupid .and i guess i wouldnt want to keep anyone in the game that wanted out .
     
  5. wiuf

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    I'm kind of ambivalent about it. I kind of admire it; as I've said before, it's the total triumph of mind over body. mental desire totally overriding the bodies survival instincts. of course, it's awful to leave behind people who care about you. I do feel that all anyone ever really has is their life, and if outside forces (murder, age, disease, accidents, etc.) can take that away, why shouldn't the self be able to?

    is it so hard to believe that a mentally healthy person (whatever that means) would claim their own life? surely there is a level of pain that eats away everything else...
     
  6. erzebet1961

    erzebet1961 Senior Member

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    I have a huge problem with it having lost a few friends that way....some were total accidents ..drinking and drugs...some were on purpose..but BOTH are suicide.....it has colored my opinion of those that do such a selfish act as play God and remove themselves form life to leave those that cared about them to deal with all the pain and questions.....to me its WRONG...and Cowardly....death comes in his own time !!!
     
  7. wiuf

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    I'm not so sure I'd call an unintentional overdose a suicide. in a way, it is "killing yourself", but I'm not sure if I'd consider it the same thing.

    that's kind of like saying the Timothy Treadwell ordeal was suicide by bear.
     
  8. mudpuddle

    mudpuddle MangaHippiePornStar Lifetime Supporter

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    I Don't know...

    Sometimes Suffering Can be too much to Bear...Bare???

    Bair...

    Oh...I Seem to Have Lost my mini-Dictionary...
     
  9. erzebet1961

    erzebet1961 Senior Member

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    yes...but everyone knows that drinking and drugs can kill you...so when you do it ..each time you are playing a game with death.....and on purpose....isnt that suicide ???
     
  10. the6peace8keeper

    the6peace8keeper Born Again Satanist

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    To me its more about the quality of life you live vs how you live. If you cant deal with the world pull the trigger.

    Ive been there years ago, pistol cocked and in my mouth but somthing told me not to give up and keep on going. The second time I had it im my mouth was because one didnt think I was serious and I was ready and all I told them they had to say was pull the trigger and I would have. But they didnt.

    Years ago when I went through a lil bout with cancer, the dr told me its not about living longer its living happy and when life no longer holds any good times its done.

    I just spoke to a friend about my soon to be dying cat and agreed, when its not living a decent life I will be the one to end it.
     
  11. wiuf

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    fair enough... I guess I'd say it is kind of a suicide, but I always thought of it as a grey area. kind of like unprotected sex, it's a gamble. a lot of people thought I was going to die for a while; apparently a girl I was best friends with would cry to our other friends because she thought I'd be found collapsed and green somewhere, but I never thought of it as trying to die, I thought I was trying to live; which probably just says something about how naive I was.
     
  12. erzebet1961

    erzebet1961 Senior Member

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    well....Its also just the way I see it....because of havening been there when it happened a few times...so ..like i said,,it did color my opinion.....I might be wrong....but..when you are holding a buddy in your arms and trying to get them to wake up...and they are gone....and you know what they were doing....its hard to see it a few times and not walk away a bit angry.
     
  13. wiuf

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    no, of course. I see what you're saying.
     
  14. mudpuddle

    mudpuddle MangaHippiePornStar Lifetime Supporter

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    I am so Sorry that you Had to Experiance That... :(

     
  15. joe

    joe Banned

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    What the fuck is this suicide month?....this is like the tenth topic ive seen like this
     
  16. mudpuddle

    mudpuddle MangaHippiePornStar Lifetime Supporter

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    maybe March is the Hight of Suicide...
     
  17. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    who are you (or anyone else for that matter) to judge a person on how they take their life. cowardly? i think its pretty cowardly that your online complaining about someone who did with their life what they wanted to
     
  18. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    I don't see who can justify attacking a mentally ill and deeply suffering person who took their own life. And calling it cowardly on an internet forum.

    I agree with Fitsy. That's hypocritical bullshit.

    Good for you you've gotten over deep depression. Some people don't because of mental illness. That shows a very juvenile attitude towards psychology.
     
  19. denimstar

    denimstar edge of darkness

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    Some do it because of an illness and don't want the family to go in debt.
     
  20. lunarflowermaiden

    lunarflowermaiden Senior Member

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    Why are people constantly making these bitter posts? I'd have to agree with Joe. I have been seeing so many topics similar to this lately.

    What makes you think that there should be justification for the acts of the mentally ill? It has nothing to do with being selfish, cowardly, or cruel. People do not sit in their rooms planning ways to make others suffer and come up with the idea to commit suicide. They are not doing this to hurt other people, they are doing this to help themselves. People with mental disorders do not think clearly as you and I do. They do not realize that suicide is not the way to deal with life. If you do not know what these people have been through and what they are thinking and feeling, how could you put them down? Not everyone gets over depression. I wish that people would at least try to be understanding.
     
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