Traditional Martial Arts are Worthless

That's what I get from watching the early days of UFC and PRIDE fighting. Correct me if I'm wrong.

By traditional martial arts I mean the stuff that spread around in the 70s like Kung Fu, Tae Kwon Do, and most forms of Karate.

It seems the most proven styles are Muay Thai kickboxing (also for the clinch) and regular boxing for standup and Brazillian Jiu Jitsu (submission wrestling basically), and greco-roman wrestling for the ground. Judo and sambo seem to be pretty good also but they have aspects of all 3 areas: standup, clinch, and ground.

I'm taking Muay Thai and BJJ classes right now. I already have a decent background in freestyle wrestling.

I took Tae Kwon Do when I was younger and it sucked- I was always the best in my class and won some local awards but I learned nothing self-defense wise. And the sparring is a joke. It's point-based and so many strikes aren't allowed it's worthless. Not only that but you're entire body is padded up- you're never going to learn how to take a hit when you can't even kick without padded shoes.

 

Are you talking about chinese food because i'm lost?

 

mixed martial arts seem to be really gaining in popularity for the reasons you've mentioned. not quite as elegant, though. it's gone all thuggish, like just about everything else.

 

I've trained in Lethwei for the past for 5 years. (basically Muay Thai) And been involved in boxing since I was 13.

Most less effective schools of martial arts teach them as means by which to win a competition in which their rule sets are based. So most TKD schools would teach systems based on TKD sparring. Many MMA fighters could not score more points at a TKD match then could a TKD fighter. In a brawl, a MMA fighter would likely have an upper hand.

Karate schools can be very intensive with their rule sets, and thus have much harder competition, with fighters which would be much more effective in a street fight. Kyo and Seido styles mostly, but it really depends on training.

Kung Fu is a meaningless term. It means something at which one excells at, and can mean cooking, martial arts, bootblacking...

Their are many extremely effective Wu Shu (Chinese MA) styles. San Shou rule sets are as intense as Muay Thai rule sets, and allow throwing, which helps out a lot in muay thai, since equally skilled fighters will almost always end up in a clench. If you ever see boxing matches in Thailand you'll see that throws are used very frequently too.

Anyway, yes to really understand the essense of martial arts, you should be prepared to fight in all cirumstances. You should also realise that in the real world, a person with a gun will negate years of experience.

 

all that aside, lodui, which martial arts do you think i should have kai in? i'm hoping for mental/physical discipline AND eventually an ability to somewhat defend herself.

 

I don't know what you have in Ft. Collins. I'd say you can probably find a karate school that's pretty good though.

Actually I was curious so I googled it, and apparently theres a Krav Maga school, and that's what I'd probably go for. Israeli special forces training. It's what the FBI ended up adopting and teaching it's agents.

http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...8437842619940735152&ei=7nD8RbC-JoTgqwK1opiADQ

Kai's going to be a cool kid.

 

Considering that you're a girl I'm guessing that you're not very strong. Krav Maga probably won't give you the ability to take out guys.

Some kind of submission wrestling would probably be better. Here are some Brazillian Jiu Jitsu schools in Fort Collins:
2. IBBA Fort Collins:
1833 E. Harmony Rd., #6,
Fort Collins, CO 80528
970-204-9977

IMATA
151 S College Ave
Fort Collins, CO 80524
(970) 402-0517

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu of Fort Collins
Fort Collins CO
970-310-5900

 

In your expert opinion are most Martial Arts simply for show:

For instance last week I was watching the movie Invincible Kung Fu Legs starring Dorian Tan, along with a number of other competent actors. was it simply BS or could the supposed head of the ground-kick school really achieve status within the real Martial Arts world.


Hotwater

 

Krav Maga incorparates many moves of jujutsu including your basic arm bars, chockes, and triangles.

 

Krav Maga is pretty cool, my brother was showing me some moves back in the day.

 

that's RIGHT!!! i forgot. it's so close, too. i wonder if they take baby badasses?

 

very handy. i'll interview both, see where i feel most comfie with kai starting. she's a gymnast...but she's not yet 5. she's soaks this stuff up. school, not so great.

 

take the other guys advice over mine he seems like he knows what hes talking about

 

yeah, i tend to. he knows more about everything.