Although it's a common emotional response, I'm personally against the death penalty, and theres also the fact that a large amount of child molesters were molested as kids. It's not a hypothetical though. The Texas house recently passed a bill that repeat child molesters can be executed. Still must go through the Senate. I'm concerned while most states are banning the death penalty, we're looking for more ways to off people. Hmmm...
I used to be for the death penalty... I do think it's a fantastic deterrant, and there are some people who simply do not deserve to live. However, I see it differently now. I think one day, if humanity survives long enough, we will look back on the death penalty as one of the most embarrassing mistakes in our history, similar to slavery. The law/lawmakers are the ones who are supposed to be IN CHARGE, they are the ones setting the EXAMPLES... and killing is not a good example to set, for any reason. Always take the high road, and the death penalty is not the high road.
Well, there have been over 100 people released from death row who were found innocent through DNA evidence. I'm sure, on day. DNA will prove that we've recently executed an innocent person. On that day the blind statue of justice should be painted red.
Since nearly all child molesters were molested as children, the way to get rid of child molesters is to execute the victims. I'm not endorsing this btw. Not all victims go on to molest. But if you look at the case of the guy who raped/murdered PollY Klass for instance, he was severly beaten and repeatedly raped as a child. Again, I'm not excusing him or his crimes. Not too long ago, a man was arrested in the county I live in on child molestation chrages made by 2 girls aged about 10 & 12. Unable to make his sky-high bail he sat in lock-up for months. He lost his job, his house, and his wife. Then on the day of his trial, his accusers admitted they made the whole thing up, because he had rejected the advances of their mom. Child molestation is the only crime that needs NO corraborating evidence, just the testimony of the alleged victims. One need only to look at the McMartin Pre-School case as well as the other similar trails that swept the nation in the "child sex ring" hysteria that took place in the 80's. The hysteria finally fizzled out when one child accused practically everyone in the courtroom, inc. the D.A., the judge and members of the jury. Actual child abuse is a terrible crime, but is not deserving of the death penalty. IMO, no crime is.
I have no problem putting a known child molester to death. And unfair as it may be, even if they were molested as a child. That being said, as Rangerdanger pointed out, most times an allegation of assault is all that is needed for arrest and conviction. So do you put to death somebody that is not without a doubt guilty? What about microchipping? I personally think microchipping anybody is opening Pandora's Box, but the increased safety potential could be valuable. However, once we head down that road will we be able to stop it? Will it then be parolees? Probation? Etc..... The idea though that a computer could track a convicted molester and report when they deviate from a prescribed area or approach a restricted area (school, etc...) could be a very powerful tool. I really don't think society is ready to go down that road however. This is a very difficult topic. Almost leaves me undecided. Just a quick tale. I know a guy that was dating a women who had a child from a previous relationship. This women was a psycho bitch. One day after one of many fights broke out, she accuses him of molesting her mentally handicapped son. He told me he was scared shitless of that accusation. He was the last person on earth that would ever do something like that, but we all know how far accusations can go. I advised him to break it off nicely, and get as far away from that women as fucking possible. To think he could have been a phone call to authorities away from being arrested for child molestation. Scary stuff.
actually there is no proof that the DP actually deters murder. If anything, it does not! Criminology 101 my friend.
I agree. States that do not have the death penalty DO NOT have a higher instance of murders (or child molesting) than states that do kill their own people. In the 60's, when I was in jail in CA. (which has the DP) for giving someone a handfull of weed, my cell mate at county was a guy in for double murder. He came home and found his best friend in bed with his girlfriend; he shot & killed them both. And said he'd do it again. The DP did not deter him.
for those of you who think that death penalty is acceptable , if the consideration of the fact that death penalty makes judgement errors unrecoverable does not impress you, I'd like to remember that the effects of death penalty arent like this or this but rather this think about this, if you really want this to be done to your fellow men or women , whatever the charge, and meditate on the fact that a child molester often has been a molested baby in his/her childhood. Also, as a criminology student I was taught that 1) death penalty does not appear to be by itself that great deterrent 2) a punishment , in order to be a valid generalpreventive tool , has to be rather certain than cruel. sorry for the gruesome image but I think it's educative at this point.
In a country ( U.S. ) where rapists and most single murderers are not put to " justice ", at least the worst crime imaginable should be punished by death, but some of you already know that I accept the law only as it is, and that my opinion is just that, my opinion. There is only one rapist on death row in the U.S., Patrick O Kennedy. Now I for one believe there should be a sentence, death by torture like they had in old age England, specially for child molestors. Even though there is always the chance of wrongfull conviction, you usually have the jury system to blame for that.
You can't justify killing someone because they have comitted a crime. Child molesters, rapists etc should be castrated. Murderers should be locked up for life.
Well tell me something, what is justification? I see it as proving the benefit of an action, and I trully believe that it would be beneficial for people to know child molestors are tortured to death, don't you think that would be a much better tool to discourage would be molestors? I think so.
No torture, I don't even support the death penalty. Life in Prison would be fine with me for these people and I think that should be a minimum mandatory with child molesters, murderers and rapist. I don't believe any human being has the right to take another's life regardless of what that person has done. I also doubt very much that torture would discourage anything. Look at other countries where they have torture and it hasn't discouraged anything there, it only brings about more hate and problems. Torture is part of pure hatred and hatred I can't abide under any circumstances. Yes there needs to be proper punishment for the crime, but torture and death are out.
This is also bull in general, In most jail's and Prisons they are often in a cell by themselves anymore for about 23 hours out of a 24 hour day and are now seperated into there own area of the prison. They do this for saftey reasons now. It makes it safer for the guards of the prison system and others. I learned this from watching prison reality type tv shows. They keep child molesters in prison seperated from the other crowds.
You do realise your taxes go to keeping those people in prison, in Canada for example the cost of one convict a year, male is 165k, female is 185k. I don't know about you but I don't want millions of the tax payer's money going to keep those people alive, and I have my opinion, you have yours.
