Milosevic.

Discussion in 'Europe' started by wolf_at_door, Mar 19, 2006.

  1. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    Pjat & pjank til side... ;)
    Nej, for pokker. Begrebet "hippie" er i forvejen blevet et så udflydende begreb, at det stort set ikke rigtig betyder noget som helst.
    Det drejer sig mest af alt om at tænke frit. Jeg vil egentlig også helst droppe disse hersens kasser, som det for nogle mennesker åbenbart føles så bekvemt at klemme alle os frie ånder ned i...

    KH. wolf. :)
     
  2. lakshen

    lakshen Forn Siðr

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    fanme ja, lige præcis faktisk... Det er så åndsvagt... Nogen mennesker ændrer sig for at passe ned i en bestemt kasse, hvor dumt er det ikke lige?
    Jeg er bare den jeg er, hvis nogen smider en kasse over mit hoved ødelægger jeg den, haha... Selvfølgelig kan det være sjovt at smide sig selv ned i kasse en gang imellem, men mere bare for at spille lidt på det for sjov, haha... Eller for at få fisse :p
     
  3. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    Når de folk jeg møder på min vej gerne vil kunne placere mig i en kasse, hænder det tit & ofte at de kalder mig en hippie. Det er nu ikke noget jeg bli'r sur over - tværtimod. Jeg kan alligevel ikke lade være med at grine lidt over folks behov for at putte mig i en kasse. Når folk kalder mig "hippie" siger de det som regel i en sarkastisk tone, men så bliver de altid så frustrerede når jeg bare griner af det. Og når de indser, at det de troede var en kæmpe fornærmelse kun preller af på mig, og når de ovenikøbet indser at jeg morer mig gevaldigt over denne såkaldte "fornærmelse" bliver de som regel endnu mere frustrerede. Øv for dem! :D

    Nogle år tilbage kaldte jeg mig gerne "hippie". Det skyldtes at jeg ikke rigtig var klar over hvem jeg selv var. I dag har jeg ikke noget somhelst imod at blive kaldt "hippie" (det hænder faktisk ofte at jeg bliver lidt stolt!), men jeg har erkendt at det kun er endnu en kasse. Folk putter nok ikke altid én i sådan en kasse af ond vilje. Jeg tror folk putter andre i kasser, når tingene bliver dem for komplekse - for svære at definere.

    To af mine allerbedste venner har puttet sig selv i en kasse, der hedder "Jeg er punker". De render altid rundt og siger at alt hvad jeg foretager mig er noget "hippiefis". Forleden vadede jeg rundt sammen med dem, og en af mine veninder var også med (som de også kalder en hippie). De var nærmest ude af sig selv af irritation over at min veninde gik hen for at dufte til nogle blomster. "Sådan noget skide hippiefis", råbte de nærmest samstemmigt. Men hverken jeg eller hende har nogensinde gået rundt og erklæret os selv for hippier... Jeg var ikke engang selv henne for at snuse til blomsterne - det var bare noget mine punker-venner regnede med, fordomsfuldte som de er! :D
    Det griner jeg lidt af, for hvis man er en rigtig punker, bør man så ikke være sådan en som er modstander af at putte andre mennesker i kasser?

    Nå, men min pointe er ihvertfald at jeg synes at det er fint hvis folk tager inspiration fra punkere, hippier, hip-hoppere, metalrockere og hvem som helst andet. Det virker bare så helvedes paradoksalt, og temmeligt morbidt morsomt, når folk tror at de er frigjorte, fordi de er krøbet ind i en kasse hvorpå der står "frigjorthed".

    kh. wolf. :)
     
  4. OnOff

    OnOff Banned

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    Vinde cá passar uma semana que regressais curados.....
     
  5. Acid_Trash

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    Fuck HIM. he was a stupid asshole that destroyed the Ballkans and exyougoslavia

    But hes legacy lives on still to some people in serbia UNFORTUNATLY
     
  6. sanja_serbia

    sanja_serbia Senior Member

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    It's a very funny thing, I must say, all of you noble Europeans discussing about this subject, but does any of you know how it's like to live in a totalitarian country with an insane dictator and be judged by the whole world because of that?!Sure, it's easy to say that he is guilty for genocide and massmurders, but while he was in charge, you were all sitting in your cosy chairs discussing him and not knowing how it's like to live with a 5 DM per month, not knowing how to feed your children tomorrow and worrying if you'll get fired....Yeah, Serbs are guilty for wars, actually, I, being a baby, went to Bosnia and Kosovo myself and killed Muslims and Albanians....We are ALL guilty, is that what you think?...

    How can you even judge without knowing all the facts?!
    You don't know the psychology of Tito's pioneers who were desperately looking for a new leader after his death and found the leader in a man who was telling them that noone should beat them....
    World is judging the whole nation by one demented man.....I hope you'll prove me wrong....
     
  7. OceanBlue62

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    Sanja, slažem se s tobom u potpunosti!
    l don't hate anyone, but if l'd have to chose, l'd rather hate the sin, instead of the sinner..... if all of us would try to disroot the concept of wars, hatred, violence itself, world would be a much better place to live.....
     
  8. sanja_serbia

    sanja_serbia Senior Member

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    Hvala, sad jos samo to napisi i na engleskom pa da i ostali znaju da imam istomisljenike :)
    Hrvatska, veliki pozdrav:)
     
  9. AXIS

    AXIS DWEERDOE

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    Vraca nam se jezik na Hipforume... Pozdravljam sve koji me razumiju... Znam da nije neka tema za opusten razgovor ali bolje i to nego nista...
     
  10. Acid_Trash

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    agree with sanja.

    the milosevic has given the serbia a realy bad reputation and the new generation and new serbia cannot get out of the mess he made, easly
     
  11. sanja_serbia

    sanja_serbia Senior Member

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    Hey, pa sta bi sa ovim Dancima i ostalim non-ex-Yu narodima?..Nije valjda da smo toliko u pravu da nemaju sta da nam odgovore?....Hehe, super je naci srpsko-hrvatski jezik na ovom forumu....Ma, koga mi to zavaravamo, to je sve jedan jezik, zar ne?...:)
     
  12. Georgi

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    I've seen in many buildings in Beograd the following: "Ne damo Kosovo, 1389". At least Slobo made his best to keep Kosovo for Serbia.
     
  13. tony232cool

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    was he a hippie
     
  14. sanja_serbia

    sanja_serbia Senior Member

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    Oh, please, what was the price for keeping it?...And, what is the epilogue - Kosovo in Serbia? Only formally....Kosovo's lost right after creating Albania, even though it's hard for me to admit, Serbia now has to give it away....My country has been a pawn in the hands of big forces since XIII century and we don't have a power to decide about it....
     
  15. Georgi

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    I don't say he was right or wrong. May be the way he decided to preserve Kosovo in Serbia by war was wrong. But even today many serbians (not only comunists) say that if there was not Milosevic, Kosovo would have been already albanian.
     
  16. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    I don't understand that conflict...

    But I saw some small film the other day made by an artist... I don't remember if he was a serb, croatian, macedonian, christian, moslem, or if he was none, or something else, but that doesn't matter... He was from Sarajevo, and his point of view was cool...

    On the walls of the central post office of Sarajevo, someone, just before the war had been written: "This is Serbia!" in big letters, and beneath that grafitti someone else added: "You idiot... it's a post office"...

    And soon after the war broke loose between the two parts...
     
  17. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    And despite I could be accused for lacking knowledge about the conflict / the history, etc... I swear to deny to side with one nation for another... '

    I take side with those serbs, croatians, christians, moslems, atheists, bricklayers, children, adults, men & women who believe that a post office is a post office, not a nation, a religion or something else far out...
     
  18. sanja_serbia

    sanja_serbia Senior Member

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    Well, alright, that's a very healthy attitude and I agree, but I couldn't conclude that from your previous posts....On the other hand, why do you hate him?...He didn't do anything to you, he didn't harm you anyhow and it's useless to spend energy for hatred instead for love....Well, he's dead now, there's no point having any feeling for him....
     
  19. wolf_at_door

    wolf_at_door Senior Member

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    Because maybe some people are planning to resuscitate him. I only blame those who accepted Milosevich as the ruler of Serbia. And they're still not dead (luckily, since there has been enough death already). They're still alive, and they're able to change their minds & realize that it was a huge mistake to support Milosevich...
     
  20. sanja_serbia

    sanja_serbia Senior Member

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    Oh, don't worry, in Serbia he's only mentioned as "the guy who made us all miserable" :) , pro-Milosevic people are in a minority now, and they are mostly very old people who don't have any political power anymore, so I guess we're not under his influence anymore :) Well, there are still leftovers of his governing such as turbo folk music, bad image in the world and huge cultural and economic lagging, but, you know what, Serbia is recovering and slowly going forward :)
    We'll be fine, we survived Milosevic!
     

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