Recipe for a Good 1st Salvia Trip

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by tripoli, Mar 19, 2007.

  1. tripoli

    tripoli Member

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    I took a 1/4 teaspoon measurer and mixed 2 parts 1x Salvia with 1 part 5x Salvia, which came out to be about a 2.3x combo.

    Bonged a fairly small amount - 100 to 200mg.

    Had a nice little buzz that was about as close to weed as a person can get without actually smoking said weedski.

    Only lasted about 20 minutes - sort of an on/off experience. Salvia seems to be weird like that. It's just bang, you're up, then bang you're down again.

    Just wanted to share.
     
  2. ChiefGreenPlant

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    So how much do you have to smoke to hallucinate I wonder? Because i had the same experience the first time i tried to hit it directly from a pipe, except the high wasnt very comfortable and rather lame.
     
  3. Geneity

    Geneity self-proclaimed advocate

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    Yeah, when I first smoked it, I got the high, but not the trip. I found it to be extremely unpleasant. Like someone was scraping sandpaper all over my body and I was constantly tumbling forward.

    NOT fun, lol.

    I get this feeling every single time I smoke it, whether I trip it not. Like my skin is literally being ripped off my body, down into the floor.
     
  4. coadyj

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    I smoked 10x once and never felt a bean. Salvia is crap, now sativas are mmm
     
  5. MatrimCauthon

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    Salvia isn't "crap", it's just not as easy to work with as people would like it to be. Hence why it's still somewhat legal. Gotta be pretty lucky to have a trip on the first go. And Geneity, to me it's more like when a leg or arm falls asleep, but all over - Tingly. Like my goosebumps are trying to run away, I like the feeling.
     
  6. KJeezy

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    Salvia has changed my life. Not so much what I do, but how I think of htings. I see something and think that maybe it's not really how it looks. I basically am more in depth with everything, and I am left asking "why is this like this" or "is someone else's perspective on the same object totally different from mine?". Kyle
     
  7. tripoli

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    "So how much do you have to smoke to hallucinate I wonder?"

    The first time I tried it, I did about 100mg of 20x (a pinch about the size of a dime).

    It blew me away.

    You have to hold your breath for 25 to 30 seconds.

    It hits fast and it hits hard. It literally terrified me so I wouldn't recommend that to start.

    1x Salvia just didn't work for me. 5x was still a bit too strong for the first time - Salvia is really different than acid or shooms.

    The 2.3x mixture is something I liked and would recommend for a starter.
     
  8. HonestlyHonesty

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    lol i remember my first time, i did it in a completly wrong environment. I had a bowl of 20x and there were way too many people in the room with music playing.
    The first min or so was great, i fell back onto the bed and had a nice little trip, but when i opened my eyes everything looked back to normal, so i thought it was over and tried to get up. Wrong!! My boyfriend had been smoking alot longer and was able to move around and use complete sentences, so i thought i would be able to as well. I got so confused and it became the most scary experience ever! All i wanted to do was come down. I felt like the room was suffocating me. but after another min or so i came out of it, but it felt like an eternity.

    i know better now :)
     
  9. prismatism

    prismatism loves you

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    i think the proudest day of my life was when i led four or five people (we were in a group, a few had done it already and one was a hardhead so i don't remember how many) through their first salvia trips and they all actually had *good* breakthroughs...

    a good guide is so, so, so important. someone who understands the mindset and can be there with the person in their experience, and interact in a synergistic way, but have the control over situations that a sober person has.

    it's sad that people say "oh, salvia doesn't do anything", or "salvia is fucked up! it's a waste of time", or worst of all, don't know what they're doing and get freaked out and do something really stupid. but what bugs me more than that is a "sitter" who fucks with the trippers head, knowingly or not, just because they're too stupid to know what they're doing.

    if you have a guide who knows how to act and how not to act, and knows which keys open which doors in salvialand, it can bring on the most profound experience of your life...


    :D RANT RANT RANT :D :D :D
     
  10. Dr.Pepper

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    rant rant rant good rant. useful information im SOOOOO glad i had the best sitters ever (the second time) they kinda fucked it up at the end and gave me a cigarette. the first time i smoked it right after my friend and the sitters were so intensely focused on her nobody knew i was in a world of my own and very scared.
     
  11. eshu

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    we shall have sally visiting us soon. I have read much about her and it took me a long time to decide that I'm ready for the shepherdess, though I have some experience with other substances for a time.

    we will be three or four close friends in my room where we will not be disturbed. we are all new to salvia. we will experience it one by one, so we will be sitters to one another.

    ok what I will ask are:

    I have read that soft, slow, meditational music (maybe those 'sounds of nature') can be good. do you agree or recommend NO music at all?

    I will take a 6x standardized extract. how will I dose it? 1/4 of it is ok for one hit? or an immediate 1/4 hit more just after I exhale?

    should I mix it with a bit of non concentrated leaf or just put the right dose in the bong? is a chillum also ok?

    and last; what do you think of a combined usage, chewing some quid and then smoking the extract? would this be too much for a first-timer?

    thanks :)

    peace and love
     
  12. tripoli

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    Personally, I would recommend no music at all for the first time. Music takes on a dimension all its own when you're on the ride.

    For 6x about 100mg should be a good start. Just do one hit. It is very important to do two things:

    1) keep the flame over the herb as you're smoking it
    2) hold the smoke for at least 20 seconds

    I would strongly recommend that: mixing a lighter does - just so you get a baseline read. I really wish I would not have done 20x my first time. I wish I would have smoked 1x and then worked my way up by mixing gradually stronger amounts. But it hits everybody differently, and with your friends there as sitters, you may be able to push the boundaries.

    In my opinion, yes, it might be too much - primarily because, depending on the way you do it, a quid could turn a bad trip that would last 10-20 minutes (smoked) into a bad trip that might last over an hour (quid).

    Good luck, and let us know what happened!
     
  13. eshu

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    thanks for the advice tripoli!!! :)
    it will be some time before we get our hands on sally but when we do, I will post a report :)

    ps: my friends sadly insist on a 20x for themselves and I was not able to persuade them. ah, whatever, people have their choices. they will start with 20x. I will not. not for some time. crystal clear.
     
  14. tripoli

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    All I can say is, they're in for quite a ride.
     
  15. tripoli

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    I just wanted to add one more thing:

    There are a lot of things in my life that I would not do again, and would change if I had the chance to go back in time.

    Doing 20x my first time with Salvia is one of those things.
     
  16. DestroyedLED

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    I too tried 20X my first time, and it blew my effin pants off. it threw me into this whole other world and blew my mind. I enjoyed it though. A good way to do it is to make a gravity bong out of a 2 liter and a bucket and hit the 2 liter full of smoke and hold it, its guaranteed to make you trip. Also have a place to crash into, like a big comfy couch behind you. falling is a big hazard.
     
  17. tripoli

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    You're braver than I am.

    But I admit, even though it was scary as hell, it was beautiful.

    My whole gig right now is to work my way into it so that the fear goes away.

    Sort of like how a person might have been bitten by a dog has to get used to being around dogs again, knowing that not all of them bite.
     

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