Hey guys, since magic mushrooms were sadly banned last year, me and my mate have been looking for a kick arse alternative. i recently found on www.redeyefrog.co.uk and they sell fresh Peruvian Torch, San Pedro and Peyote cacti and also some dried San Pedro, and after a little reading thought these sounded like the best option. basically, i want to get wasted easily and effectively lol. can anyone please help me in my quest, i need some help from people that know what they'r doing and people on this site seem clued up. could someone please tell me A: the best cacti to buy. B: the easiest/best way to ingest. C: any other info that would be useful. any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Draz ^_^
From what I have read, brewing a tea is quite a bit easier to ingest than actually eating the cactus itself. There are tons of recipes around. Check www.erowid.org
Ive been researching this almost continuously for weeks ahead of trying it for the first time. Ill save you some time, erowid provides extensive and great info, but try the keyword "preparation" in google searches and you will get the best info. So "san pedro preparation" etc... enjoy
cheers guys, i'll have a little browse around, also i found this online, does anyone know if its worth buying??? http://www.compra-segura.com/product_info.php?currency=EUR&products_id=259 i read that one method is to put 30-40g of powder into a pot, add just enough water to cover the powder, add around 6-8oz of pure lemon juice, boil for 25 mins then leave to cool. (does this seem ok???) if anyones got any more info then keep it comin' all comments are helpful in the quest! lmao
Well, first off, do you live where the shop is? Cause if not, shipping is going to much higher and slower. I noticed the currency was in euros, and the shop is in Peru (which is kinda weird). As far as value, cactus tends to be about 75% water. This means that 900g is the equivalent of about 3.6kg/7.92lbs fresh weight. So, you tell me. I'd say shop around and compare prices based on your region. The recipe sounds decent. I might use more water and boil longer, to prevent burning and to make sure that it gets done extra good. If you use fresh/dried non powdered cuttings, definitly boil longer.
Also, dosing may or may not be an issue. I mean, the weakest San Pedro strains would take about 2.5kg of weight to give a dose (in powder terms, 625g). So, you would be better off to cook it all at once, probably. This way if it turned out to be the weak stuff, you would have more handy. Of course, on dosing, always assume you got the strongest stuff (about 40-60g as above stated). It would be bad to assume that you needed 600g and then wind up dosing 10x stronger than you'd hoped.
the only thing i'm hoping is that i dont go and buy this stuff and it does nothing to me.... i read a few reviews on that site and a lot of people seemed please with it, i'll have to have a think.... thanks dude.
wow, no one mentions anything about this guy wanting to take the cactus to get "wasted"... thats pretty fuckin stupid imo, you should read up on what you're going to put into your body, and respect it. its not a game, hallucinogens arent like other drugs and there's all these stupid fucks who think they can just take a whole bunch of them to get "fucked up". if you haphazardly fuck around with powerful mind altering substances you'll end up in a situation similar to those kids that made fireworks illegal in your state.
mix up a water lemon juice mixture at 30% lemon juice 60% distilled water. make as much as you may need. use a blender and mix the skin cuttings and just enough lemon/water mixture to make it blend. take the blended mixture and begin to boil in a non aluminum pot. bring the mixture to a rapid boil then strain of mixture through a colander that is placed above a large mixing bowl. push the excess moisture out with a spoon. take the liquid in the bowl and strain through a reusable coffer filter thats placed in a mixing cup to catch the liquid. take the solid from the colander and reboil repeating this procedure twice, for a total of three boils. use the least amount of lemon/water as possible each time. mix the liquids together in a water bottle and shake before drinking. if you let it sit for a few days the taste will be less then when fresh. I believe no better way to prepare trichocereus than this. the total preperation time takes about twenty minutes and is very effective. this procedure will get all the good stuff.
If you can find it in a dried/powdered form, that's the best way to use it. A good dose would be 20-40 grams. Above 30 you risk shitting and puking at the same time. Just mix it with water. My best mixture has been with club soda followed by a better tasting chaser. I tried lemon juice and water and had a trip where I thought I was dying from the acidity. It tasted foul too.
SWIM just eats his cacti, chews the dried, or eats the fresh, chases with diet soda, the taste is not that bad to him.
Put the powder into gelcaps. You can buy the capping machines and the gelcaps at your local health food store. I used to try eating the powder with peanut butter but it took 30 minutes to get it down and it tasted really really bad YUCK !!!
i wanna throw up just thinking about the taste of p torch powder. never again. my stomach hurts just thinking about taking dozens of gel caps. never again.
From what I got from the experience it was worth it. But if I think about the taste of Torch powder I start dry heaving. So lately meditation has taken a much more important role
I would say (after about 2 attempts and 6 different methods) that the easiest way is to perform any type of extraction you can. I bet that it would be easier to go build a chem lab and synthesize from scratch than it would to try to eat that stuff.