knowledgable lsd users help plz!!!!

ok...i tripped late on tuesday night, but only had a mild trip. i prob took 2-3 hits or so. I believe the trip was mild b/c i had tripped roughly 2 and a half days prior to this (sunday afternoon), and thus didnt wait long enough for my tolerance to dissipate. My question is this...i want to trip tonight, and take enough to have a psychadellic experience, probably 300-500+ micros, from what i understand. If i take the doses late tonight (roughly 72 hours after my last dose on tues night), how much will i need to take to experience the dose i desire. Is it too soon since my last trip to achieve such desired effects? Is 3 days too short between trips? I plan on taking a half a ten strip or more, which is definatly more than double what i took tuesday night, and again the trip was mild. So if anyone has any insight on the matter, please, please lemme know, i am dosing in a few hours or so, so i need some insight. thanks guys.

 

In theory that sounds about right in the sense of what dose you may need to take to counter the quickly built up tolerence. You may be able to get away with less, however, it's difficult to say.

From frequent users it appears perhaps once a week is optimal if your goal is to dose as much as possible and get as much bang for your buck--- that and allowing your mind and body to recover. There are some who say a month or more is needed. This is more towards the mental recovery and your ability to absorb the mental stimulation.

Is there some reason that you are wanting to dose so often? Overall it dulls the experience when one uses psychedelics that often, based on opinion.

 

i went through a stage where i was using like you describe. i have been using LSD for the last 10 years. i like to wait at least two weeks usualy more before i trip again. i find you get more of a trip that way. when i was doing it every weekend the trips would get milder with every week. once after doing acid every weekend for a few months we ran out and had to go a month or two without. when we tripped again - boom! now thats a trip! we didnt know what we were missing. it was after that trip that i started spacing out my trips more. more bang for your buck
if you are going to trip tonight take twice what you took last trip and you should trip good!

 

Just to quote an actual book:

"Another difficulty in the extensive use of group sessions is the frequency with
which the therapist must use the drug. Further when two therapists are involved, staff
time becomes a major consideration. It has been stated that tolerance for LSD builds up
quite rapidly but even when we have run group sessions as frequent as three times a week
this has not appeared to be a problem and the therapists have been able to work in close
empathy with the subject on doses as low as 25 gamma on the third day of such series."

 

physical tolerance is recovering, you should be about half strength so taking twice as much will likely give you a trip but it wont be as much fun because mental tolerance lasts longer than physical tolerance. If you trip too frequently it loses its otherworldy quality. you dont respond with the same wild-eyed amazement.

 

you'll need a ten-strip or more to get out there.

 

it will definatley lose its other world quality if you do it to often, i fryed a week ago for the first time in 7 months and it still doesnt have the outerworld quality that it did when i first started, and it sucks cause psychedelics seem all boring and gay now so i dont do them anymore. and if you fry to often it will make you feel all wierded out even when your sober and that sucks

 

the only way that doing lsd 'too often' could "make you feel all wierded out even when you are sober" is if you are a strange kind of person like the one that thinks that psychedelics are "all boring and gay".

i have been doing lots of acid for a long time. trust me, if you enjoy your trips and have positive experiences you will be fine. actually you will be better then fine. on a normal day you will be higher then you were before your tripping days and this will gradually increase with every trip. i am high all the time - every day is like the after glow of an acid trip. i think it is wonderful - i do not "feel all wierded out"!

if an acid trip wierds you out then so will the after effects. if you enjoy your trips then you will also enjoy the after effects. of course this is not always true and for the people who have had good trips yet are experiencing a negative after effect - try embracing your high, learn to enjoy and go with your trip that is still very much there! dont fight it cuz you will do nothing but harm.

i cant stand ignorance and propaganda fueled fears and anxieties. i hope i am in some way able to help people see it clearer.

 

weekends are defintaly good. and who calls it fry? your making it sound like its bad for you. I dont really think tripping could ever seem boring in gay it dosent really make sense acid is strong enough were pretty nmuch no matter what you can take a dose were theres no way in hell its going to seem Boring and gay.

 

im not trying to sound ignorant im just sharing my personal experience. people all have different brain chemistrys and drugs effect them differently. and not all acid is lsd, theres a lot of research chemicals going around these days and they effect you differently to. im not the kind of person who thinks psychedelics are gay and boring i loved them when i first started doing them. after frying around 40 times in 6 months psychedelics did lose their effect and when i stopped doing them i was still getting visuals for a couple months. i have taken a lot of research chemical thinking they were lsd because there are not many reliable connections were i live. overdosing on research chemicals will ruin the psychedelic experience for you. have you ever tripped so hard that you coulnd move or talk, you didnt no your own name and just sat down curled up in a ball uncontrollably sweating and shaking for 3 days with constant unberably strong adrenaline rushes hitting you in waves every couple minutes making it hard for you to breath. it will ruin it for you. and its happend to me once from 3 hits, and another from 2 hits.

 

if your hits were on little pieces of paper then it was LSD. the research chemical thing has you all confused. i suggest you do your research and try to find a better crowd to be around. i dont know anyone (besides you) that calls it frying and i dont understand why anyone would call it that. you are obviously around depressing people. you could have been mistaking a bad trip for bad acid (happens all the time). it is probably more to do with your 'set and setting' than bad acid or a research chemical. please do some research. as far as i am aware LSD is the only drug that will produce an effect at such low dosages to fit on a little paper hit!

find out what 'set and setting' are... look up Timithy Leary's "The Psychedelic Experience"... Ram Dass - "Be Here Now" ... go to www.erowid.org and do more research - and check out this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlyKjTVnzGo ... Trust the old men who have been doing this stuff for decades and not the young cool people who call it frying.

 

homophobic moron. I'd try frying fish instead if I were you.

 

any one who calls dosing frying and says dosing can get boring and gay is a homophobic moron in my book, i dont even care if they really are.

 

there are many research chemicals that can be fit on blotter paper. dob is expecialy common in blotter form. ive watched people put research chemicals from there powder form onto blotter papers. i know the difference between research chemicals and a bad trip. it doesnt take 3 and a half hours to feel the effects of lsd. bad lsd trips dont last for 3 days. i have actually read the pcychedelic experience and i usually do enjoy my trips. ask anyone whos ever taken a large dose of dob thinking it was lsd, its not very easy to enjoy. im sorry if the word fry insults you, its just another slang word for trip and everyone in this entire city i live in uses it.

 

my apologys to any homosexual people that were insulted by me using the word gay. i am deeply sorry from the bottom of my heart and will not use the word in a derogative way again.

 

are there any experienced trippers that can verify this research chemical thing. or can moop please offer some links to credible websites that warn of such things. as far as i am aware there is only one drug that can fit on blotter paper and that is LSD. (and produce any effects)

there is no way i am going to believe someone that calls it frying and uses the words gay and boring to describe it.

moop- it is not that you offended anyone by using such words. it is what it says about you that you would talk like this.

LSD is subjective so it makes no sense to call it frying - sounds like your going to fry your brain - kinda stupid, and i doubt that a whole city is using this word - how do you know everyone in your city, is it small? we call it tripping cuz taking LSD is like going on a trip. why do you call it frying when the rest of the world calls it tripping???

moop- please do some research 'on line' to back up your story and provide some links for us. i have good reason to believe that you have no idea what you are talking about.


the people you hang out with - the ones who call it frying, should not be considered experts.

 

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dob/dob_journal1.shtml seriously, if you ever get a bitter or slightly bitter tasting blotter paper spit it out, or only take one at a time untill you see what it does to you unless you want to spend 2 or 3 days so fucked up you dont know if you even exist thinking your going to die the whole time.

when i say the whole city uses it, that is a figure of speech and i mean anyone that ive ever met and talked to about drugs will use the word fry to replace the word trip. it doesnt mean fry as in your going to fry your brain, it is a slang term for "under the influence of hallucinogens". there are a lot of slang words assosiated with drugs and they change from place to place and person to person there is no standard dictionary of drug terminology.

and i only used the words boring and gay to describe it after i had been tripping weekly/ bi weekly for 6 months, over time the effects of pcychedelics had less effect on me, i still hallucinated but they stopped making me feel euphoric, they stopped making me laugh, they lost that magic touch they had before and i usually just found myself fucked up hallucinating and being bored and not knowing what to do. if you can trip that often and not have diminished effects than yippy for you, drugs effect people differently and im just sharing my personal experience.

ive been on the hip forums for a while and so far your the only one whos being a damn cockass just cause i use different slang and have a different opinion on psychedelics than you.

 

you have more then a different opinion - you have a completely different experience then me.

i was trying to point out that maybe you could find a better more positive word to describe a positive experience. frying does not suggest that anything good is going to happen and that is why most of the tripping world would agree with me when i say that it is a strange word to use to describe a psychedelic high.

i dont know why anyone would want to sell someone dob instead of lsd. sounds very cruel and unusual. i believe that these things happen thanx to your link. only a very bad person would knowingly sell you that stuff - you should be able to sniff them out. know your source - dont buy off someone you dont trust.

you could try finding more descriptive words then "damn cockass",, to describe your feelings.

i think you would do better with a more positive outlook. i am only trying to help you.

 

are you serious?

 

Frying would be a sweet slang term for the meth dictionary