Psychedelic drugs & paranoia

Discussion in 'Paranoid?' started by AutumnsMoonChild, Sep 21, 2006.

  1. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    the most blotter i took in one go was 4 trips. it was heavy tripping and come to think of it, it did last practically 2 days (but on a controllable level!) and there was a great feeling of natural-ness about it.

    i used to fool myself that E had something enlightening - spiritually or not - about it. but the longer i go without, the more i question how can any synthetic drug that produces chemically induced hapiness within be enlightening? it's just chemicals making the neuro-transmitter serotonin flood your brain. and then the comedown is just the re-uptake. it's like, pulling the plug out of a bath, watch the water drain then fill it back up again. i have thought about the enlightening factor of E, and yes - while you're on it i suppose there is an element of enlightenment but overall it's just chemical repitition that fucks with the mind in the long run.
     
  2. Beckner420

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    Im the exact same way. Acid seems to be the clear psychedelic experience no gimmicks, but on shrooms, the effects can be much better or much worse, and it waves, and some times you just go to far down the rabbit hole and burn a nerve in ur brain... from my experience anyway.

    I don't think paranioa is the only factor having a bad trip, some people are just bound to have a bad trip because of their thinking patterns and what not.
     
  3. rob1134

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    i was so paranoid once on weed i thought my little brother and his friend had a mini snake fiber optic camera that they slipped under the door and hooked up to a broadcast to all their friends on the ps3 network to watch me while i masturbated.
     
  4. PsyGrunge

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    You got that paranoid on Ganj??
    Do yourself a favour and leave EVERYTHING (and I mean everything) else the hell alone.
     
  5. Gerva

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    paranoia is a connection of more fears. fear of leaving the level of basic state of mind, i think who wonders it, is likely to get bad trips
     
  6. Blithe

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    i'm 17, & i'm cool on it. if you're paranoid, don't try this until later in life.
    i think that's the best way to go.
    tripping is all about mind set & setting.
    good luck.
     
  7. ladylois

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    haha I first broke through on acid when i was 15. I definatly understand why its not recomended for young people, but its been so wonderful growing up with such fresh, multi angled out-look on everything.

    I've read that it can effect areas of the brain that are still developing, but what becomes of a person if their brain has been effected? Are there any known disorders that can come of it?
     
  8. jagerhans

    jagerhans Far out, man. Lifetime Supporter

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    kids, i've been reading all these drug related posts for awhile and I'd like to tell you just one thing: be wise and dont play your little young tender neurons bad tricks. you are going to need them sooner or later. save your money and buy a large crate of condoms instead.

    take this for what it is... just an advice.
     
  9. StayLoose1011

    StayLoose1011 Senior Member

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    Jagerhans, you have a point but remember you haven't done it, and as someone who has, I can say that yes it was risky but for ME it was worth it.

    Man, these replies are all over the place... to the original poster, you will probably freak out, especially now because you're all worried about freaking out. Being scared of freaking out will guarentee a freak out in susceptible people, a category you seem to fall in. However, I would not go quite so far as some of the posters in my cautionary tales. If you want it to change you permanently, it can... I believe LSD contains IMMENSE powers, but I'm going to say something that I normally wouldn't which is that for most people, the whole "changing you forever" thing is a little overblown. I mean, I saw an interview where Paul McCartney was saying that he was quite scared to take acid because he'd heard it would change you forever. Now, seeing him doing the interview at age 55, I realized that even if acid does open up a little portal or something, it's not like Paul was truly changed forever. I mean, if you trip once at age 20, you probably aren't going to be 55 years old looking back at how you were never the same after you took acid. Obviously it's possible, because some people go insane when they take it (definitely "changed forever), but I think 99.99% of people are not truly changed forever by it, not really any more than one would be changed after getting super super high once or rolling once or anything else.

    But yeah back to the OP, I would definitely wait a few years. You'll probably be in a better state of mental health by then as you grow up and get out of the house or whatever. I tripped when I was 20 which I think was about the right age, maybe a couple of years too young actually (I think I could handle it a lot better now at 21.5, for instance).
     
  10. gib_0101

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    You definitely need to be of a certain level of maturity to do it right. My first time was 19, and I definitely wasn't mature enough even then. On the other hand, I don't know if one can ever be mature enough - maybe it takes experiencing it in the first place in order to gain that level of maturity.

    Anyway, I'd say if you're worried about having a bad trip, take really light doses at first. What StayLoose said is right: if you're scared of freaking out, you will freak out. It's a self-fulfilling profecy. But it's really hard to freak out that badly if you take really small amounts. If you're doing pot, I'd say just take a small toke from a joint and exhale immediately (put the joint out and save the rest for later). Feel it out. See if you like it. If it's acid, take only half a tab, maybe even a quarter.

    Easing into it is the right way to go - find your confort zone.
     
  11. ladylois

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  12. dirtydog

    dirtydog Banned

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    [​IMG]
    "Strange days have tracked us down.
    They're going to destroy
    Our casual joy.
    We shall go on playing
    Or find a new town." -- Morrison

    Paranoid? I'm not sure if I'm paranoid or not. Maybe I'll discuss it with my probation officer.
     
  13. dirtydog

    dirtydog Banned

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    Oooh -- flashbacks. I haven't read the literature on flashbacks and I'm no expert, but I've had a couple of low-key acid flashbacks, like there was a little acid flavor to my normal consciousness without it being really disruptive. Like watching someone eating fried chicken and I'm suddenly perceiving a savage beast tearing apart this dead bird with his teeth... But I'll bet you can find stories of full blown disruptive flashbacks without looking too hard. That's why d-lysergic-acid-diethylamide 25 is treated in most countries as a restricted dangerous drug with possession rated as an offense.
     
  14. gib_0101

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    That's weird... would "rush" describe the experience?
     
  15. desert nightmare

    desert nightmare Senior Member

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    I'm listening to that song right now. Morrison is the shit!
     
  16. AnOriginalName

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    i first took acid when i was 15. i've taken it another 3 times since, never in a very large dose. a full tab was my largest dose.

    alot of people in this thread have said that you're too young. that certainly applied with me when i was 15. but it did kickstart a whole lot of development. i don't think, unless these people here know you, they have any right to say you should or shouldn't take it.

    i don't believe that my experiences with acid were a bad thing at all, if i could go back and change my actions, i wouldn't. it helped open up alot of things in my head. as a previous poster similarly said, it turned me into a more open minded, perceptive and level headed person. i'm very keen to experiment with it more when i'm alot older, and alot more developed. i have come to understand that i'm simply too young to experiment further at this age.

    there have been side effects (both negative and positive) and there could be more on their way, i'll accept those when they come.

    basically, if you don't feel right doing this drug, then don't. just wait. you have PLENTY more years ahead of you. but if you are really keen on it, try half a tab maybe, get taste of it?
     
  17. PsyGrunge

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    If you're a tripper then you have to become accepting of this detail; and it looks like you are. :)
     
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