I got some kid arrested

Okay, TNS and dudenamedrob, imagine you owned a bong shop. you built this bong shop from it's base, you've spent years and years trying to make it the best in the market, you scrimp save and sacrafice for the store and then one day you see some jackass gripping up a piece of glass that cost you forty bucks.
In a lot of stores forty bucks is an entire day's profit margin.
you just gonnna let him go?
cause he'll be back.
you gonna try and take it off him then let him go?
cause he'll be back.
or you gonna call the LEOs to make sure that this prick understands that he can't steal from you?

you gotta protect your investment, this means you can't beat anyone up or get a lawsuit, and you can't let people steal from you, or you'll lose money.... so... what would you do?

 

I'd beat the fucker's ass or steal something from him. No matter how much wrong a person has done to me, I don't want anyone to go to jail. I'd much rather lose a few dollars than to fuck someone's life up. Fuck that and fuck snitches.

 

It's funny you should use that scenario because i've been blowing glass for years, and i've had this exact thing happen to me before. In this past incident I snatched the perpetrator up and shook him down for the piece, plus his cash. As i'm older now and alot calmer, I would find another way to handle it that did not involve LEO's. I'd take it back from him first of all, tell him that if he wants it that bad he can work for it, offer him some type of bitch work to not only punish him, but enable him with a way to legitimately obtain the piece. If the perpetrator was not interested in that and acted beligerent I would THEN shake him down for my piece, plus his cash, and I would take a photo of him with a lifetime ban, if after that ban I were to find him in/around my store again, I would take the punishment up another level, but I would never ever under any circumstances call the LEO's unless their was ABSOLUTELY NO other way to handle it.

Now the situation at hand involved a pack of blacks, roughly $2 and some change. In her situation I would have kept my mouth shut, and confronted the jackass in another way, hell, even an EMPTY threat of LEO involvement would have been all you need to achieve the result your looking for, if someone even THINKS your going to turn snitch on them that person will steer clear of you and that store for the rest of their life, or at the very least not steal from it.

 

word, your a snitch

 

You people amaze me.

Honestly...

The cops have nothing to do with this in the first place... she did not call the cops, her manager did... she just told her manager... which is by far the right thing to do. Eugene provided a great scenario for you, and you people still don't get it.

...and what, you are actually willing to punch me for something like this, TNS? I would have done the same thing if I was in the OP's position... exactly the same thing... no matter if I knew the kid or not... if you want to steal, honestly... steal from Walmart... not from an independent business. If one kid knows that he can get away with stealing from you, then a hundred other kids will think the same. One of the few truly beautiful things in this country are the rights of small business and how a simple individual can make good money on an investment. No kid has the right to take away from that, even if it's 2$ worth... you cannot possibly know how much merchandise he has already stolen from them or would have stolen in the future if he wasn't caught.

No one chose to be born into this society, but you HAVE to accept some of its basic foundations in order to survive in it. If you are going to steal, then prepare to accept the full punishment.

If what the OP did makes her a snitch, then shit... being a snitch actually has a good meaning!

 

YOU do not get it. Why do you not take into account the years of government intrusion in that kids life? Why do you not take into account that now he is marked for LEO harrassment? Why do you not take into account that this ONE incident where he did something STUPID will almost assuredly affect the rest of his future in a NEGATIVE way?? Why do you not take into account that you are willingly empowering a regime that wishes to turn you into a sheep? Why do you advocate giving power to the very system that wishes to enslave you?? I'm not advocating stealing from small businesses, I agree it's a really shitty thing to do, and probably one of the most personally harmful nonviolent crimes that can be commited, but STILL.....when it comes down to someones LIFE and CAPITALISM, i'm going to choose to invest my effort into a LIFE, and not the flawed ideology of capitalism that promotes swallowing up human beings for the purpose of protecting profit. When you get down to the root of it, the only argument I have heard through this entire thread to justify snitching to the LEO's is loss of money, products and evil green paper CAN be replaced rather quickly, a human life cannot be repaired that quickly, if ever. She (the OP) may have willingly put that kid into the system, labeled him as a criminal in the eyes of the LEO's, quite possibly ruining any chance of a good future he ever had. It's disturbing to see you all valuing money over life. The system has become so ingrained into your lives that you cannot see the TRUE travesty of justice here, and you all obviously value MONEY above all else. Any number of things could have been done to handle the situation differently, ideally a positive response would have been given, a kynd soul may have taken the time to guide the kid into a more positive direction......maybe all he needed was a little love, someone to show him the right path, someone to NOT give up on him, but you all seem to agree with the easy way out, calling the LEO's..."Fuck that kid and his life, we gotta protect our money"

This is a terrible thing to see..........so many eyes........so many blind to the truth.

 

First of all, snitching is snitching.....whether you snitch to your manager or the cops, the person will get arrested. Second of all, snitching because someone is doing something wrong is bad enough, but snitching because you have a personal grudge is just demonic. And to top it off, the bitch seems to be proud that she got the person caught and arrested, even though it didn't affect her at all and she was probably just trying to be employee of the month or some shit.

 

And yes, Eugene did provide a great scenario, and I told you exactly how it should be handled.

 

She could have at least said:

"Put those back, because you know I have to tell the manager, who will no doubt call the pigs"

In other words, given him a chance to redeem himself.

Maybe next time?

 

Personally, I think she should lose her job, because she's obviously not trustworthy. lol

 

I know it's distasteful, but shouldn't we give these snitches at least one chance to redeem themselves?!

She's actually had it, and since she's proud she got him arrested,

to hell with her job.

 

The ONLY reason I would give a snitch a second chance is if they were too young to understand how fukt up it is to stick thier noses where they don't belong.

MeowMix is a MJ forums outcast, as far as I'm concerned.

 

Okay, not only do you have the potential for a massive lawsuit there. like the cops could shut down your business, and the dude could sue you for a lot of cash. You'd potentially risk your investment, your career, you house, and your families security for a coupla dollars?
and dnr, you would either have a lawsuit if he's beligerent, or a person WHO YOU KNOW STEALS FROM YOU in your employ.
This ain't the black market here, there are ways of keeping a necessary amount of order without the use of violence in our society. It isn't like you could beat down someone for stealing your pot, you can actually go to a neutral party to settle your differences.

 

violence toward someone who's wronged you is better than snitching, IMO. It's a morality issue.

"It's principalities in dis"-Big Worm

 

Are you fucking serious?? You really believe the police are neutral??? The day they STOPPED calling them "Peace Officers" and started calling them "Law Enforcement Officers" is the day they lost ALL neutrality.

How would I be at risk for a lawsuit?? I NEVER advocated violence, "snatching someone up" does not involve hitting them, and to be even clearer, YES I WOULD take the risk of lawsuit (which is slim to none if he's caught red handed) OVER calling the LEO's, I would much rather give someone (even a thief!) a chance to do some work for me than blatantly ruin their life because of my greed and their stupidity, as I've stated numerous times already, I value a human life and the future of that life over evil green paper. Your not even making a valid point, your just regurgitating the rhetoric that you've been indoctrinated to believe.

 

why? you wouldn't get revenge, you wouldn't get compensated, and you really wouldn't punish the guy after he sues your ass and takes all of your shit instead of some cigars...
violence is very rarely the answer.

 

Giving someone who's wronged you a chance to right it is best, but if they won't, then 'wrong' back, but not in excess of the wrong done to you.




I've never sounded so moral in my life! lol

Screw 'morality', and even 'justice'!

Let wisdom rule!

 

If someone steals my property, their face is getting caved in, whether it's the right answer or not. I am not gonna take ANY part in sending someone to jail.

 

They police are neutral in that they and the courts really have no stake in the outcome of the case. hell, they'd rather just give someone a fine than spend the money and resources to prosecute for such a petty offence as retail theft.
and kidnapping someone, and then basically enslaving them is a crime (locking someone up and making them work for you kinda went outa fashion in 1865)...
I'm not being rhetorical, i'm being practical. Money isn't evil green papers, it's the way we've evolved to sustain a very large and complex economy. It represents the means by which we are able to live, and to live in the future, and support those we love.

if dude steals from me, i want to stop dude. dude is hurting me, my business, and my ability to survive. what's more basic and natural than that.
i can stop dude by beating him up, which really only works in the black market.
or i can have him arrested, make his parents bail him out, and then have him not want to steal from me in the future.

 

Eugene:

As you say, it only represents those means. It is plausible that we may yet evolve to do without such 'representation'

Why don't you consider it possible you can stop dude by warning dude to stop?!