All of you vacs mamas.

Recently, about a week ago, Alexis got her 6 month shots. 3 of them, I believe. Never before has she gotten swollen or had knots in her legs. I worked them and give her Tylenol just like I had all the times before. She's also been so cranky since getting them. Usually, she's just upset for a day or two, but this has been nearly a week.
Have any of you experienced this before. This is all new to me. Like I said, she's never had the knots, and she's usually just upset for a day or two.
What do I do for her? (Stop vacsing is NOT an option for me.)

 

That's a shame as that's the ONLY solution I have to your problem. If a child has an allergic reaction to food, you stop giving them that food. If they're having a reaction to vaccinations, wouldn't you want to consider the possibility that they're not the best idea for your child?

You might want to at least try to find out what was in the recent vaccinations, active AND inactive ingredients, to try to see if there's something she might have had a reaction to. That way, you'll have a better idea of how to approach the problems at hand.

 

Another way to deal with this is to not stop the vaccinations but delay them. Not all out delay, but....

Give her one shot a month, once a month, so that she has plenty of time to recover before she is berated with another shot. Giving them one at a time also gives you a chance to see WHICH vaccination is causing her such problems, and then decide if it's even needed for her.

If you don't feel comfortable stopping vaccinations, that is fine. I know you've educated yourself. But there is absolutely no harm in taking it very slowly and over a long long period of time.

 

They were the same shots as her 2 month shots.
I was meaning is there a way to make the knots go away faster. I don't think it was an allergic reaction as I was told it could happen if her legs weren't worked enough, but I sat with her for at least a good two hours and worked and massaged her legs and thighs.

 

i'm sorry i have no knowledge of the subject right now, but i just wanted to comment that she is absolutely adorable! like a lil doll, 'specially in that cute sundress!!!
between alexis, and hippyfreak's little cutie....they both just look so happy and squeezable!!
good luck with the vacs. hope she feels better soon.
peace.

 

Man, do you ever forget a lot in a little time....I'm trying to remember back to what the nurses told me when Leane had her shots....I know Leane would just have a few fussy days, and once and a while, some redness around the site, but that was about it.
If it's really freaking you out, and she's not improving, I would go back and get her checked out again. The lumps and everything are normal, but I don't know about being fussy this long...

 

Yea. I'm going to try to get her into her ped tomorrow sometime. Her fussyness has gone, but the lumps are just bothering me so bad. They feel like they may be getting worse, of course, that's probably me just freaking out.
Plus, the shots caused her to have a yeast rash. I'm guessing that's what caused it, because she's not had anything new to eat in forever. Just sweet potatos and formula for the past couple of weeks. And, some juice here and there. So, I have to get some cream for that, because desitin just is NOT working.

 

Nothing like that happened with my two. Just usually a fever and some fussiness for a few days. Never seen any knots. I have never heard of "working" them. Do you think they could have just swelled up due to messing with them? Not sure, but if they don't go down have a doc check for infection.

 

I'd never heard of the knots thing, either. And I remember seeing nephews and nieces vaxed....What vax was it, moon?

 

The same as her 2 month shots.
I believe it was HIB, Hep. B, PCU, IPU.

 

Mya's 6 month shots did the same thing! They were the same ones she has gotten before (probably at 2 months like Alexis) but for some reason in her left leg the bruise is still there and I can still feel the knot. I took her for her 7-month check up today and asked the nurse about it and she said it wasn't anything to worry about and it's just taking longer to heal.

 

KNots are a pretty common adverse effect after a vaccine, about 1 in 4 children will get a lump after the HiB vaccine. They can last up to 3 - 4 months, as the body works to try to absorb the chemicals at the injection site. Rubbing the knot gently with a little Vicks Vapor Rub can help break it down.
Your doctor should have filed a report with VAERS (any adverse effect, no matter how mild, needs to be reported)

http://www.cdc.gov/od/science/iso/general_info/sideeffects.htm#reaction

 

Alright. I'm glad to know it's normal for this amount of time.
I'll ask him about it (Filing the report) when he gets Alexis in.

 

My dd Moon had a knot after one of her DPTs (before we stopped vaxing) that lasted for nearly a YEAR! (I have also read that kids who get knots are more likely to have reactions to vaccines later, as the knot is the body trying to rid itself of the viruses which may be causing subtle, yet real harm to the baby.) That, and the brain damage the DPT and the MMR caused in my dd Sunshine made me do my own research and NOT use every single vaccine, but only those which my dh and I determined were really neccesary and had little risk of neurological injury.

Our younger two kids have only had Diptheria and Tetanus (NO Pertussis, not even the "acellular") the injectable polio and the HiB. The MMR was completely out of the question, as this shot landed my oldest child in the hospital with Cerebellar Ataxia and (it has now been confirmed by several neurologists, although the reaction was denied as being caused by the vaccine when it happened, and my baby was lying unconscious on a hospital ER table) increased her suseptibility to Tourette's Syndrome (and she has a serious case for a female) and most likely increase her ADHD and Sensory Defensiveness symptoms. Her THIRD DPT caused seizures, which then lead to her seizing every time she got a fever, and also most likely contributed to the Tourette's, SND and ADHD.

I wish I had had the information in the 1980s that we have now. I'd have a daugther who wouldn't have suffered so much, and would have needed a hell of a lot less medical care, and medications, and would have had less social ostricization in her formative years. She will have to be on medication for the rest of her life, pregnancy and breastfeeding will be more of a challenge for her, and the vaccines caused MORE problems than if she had just gotten the illnesses, (as she nearly died from the seizures and the Cerebellar Ataxia) Of course, my selectively vaxed kids have gotten NONE of the illnesses they were not vaxed for (although I wish they would get Chicken Pox, and there is a chance Sage had Rubella a few months ago. We will have her titre checked in about 6 months.)

There IS the CHOICE to selectively vaccinate, according to your own research and your own family's background. (Like, someone SHOULD have told me that children with parents with Tourette's Syndrome, OCD, severe, chronic migraine and Rheumatoid (auto-immune) conditions should always be selectively vaxed,or not vaxxed at all, but your doctor often will be paid for the percentage of his clientelle who are "completely" vaxxed, so you will NOT hear the info from him.) Just like with breastfeeding, the doctor is the LAST person who knows the lowdown on vaccine problems.

EVERY parent should do the research, read all sides to the vaxxing controversy, and let it sink in before just blindly letting an infant be injected with as many as 12 viruses on the SAME day. There is nothing wrong with selectively vaccinating.

 

Just one question. WHY is not vaccinating "not an option?"

It's a right and an option for you, as her mother, to do what is best for her based on YOUR own research. You may well have CHOSEN to vaccinate her, but I can't see how it could be "not an option" to selectively or not vax at all. Many of us have done just this thing.

If you have chosen to completely vaccinate her, despite a reaction, that is your choice, but "not an option?" I can't see how that could be.

With all due respect.

 

Oh, I put 'not an option' because I DO want to vaccinate. I'm just a worry wart. I've been thinking about skipping the MMR vax, because you're not the only one that's said their child was affected. I didn't mean it in a way that I'm being forced to.
I didn't know about the parents with OCD or migraine thing. That's good info for me because I have both. Are there certain ones to avoid because of those?

 

I really do not understand how ANY parent who loves and cares for their child can willingly inject heavy metals and carcinogens into them...........

 

and I don't understand how anyone who isn't the person who does love these particular kids can tell those who do what choices are right or wrong for them and their families.
*raises eyebrow*

 

Doing your own research is best. Stay away from the sites from the people who stand to make money from vaccines. Vaccine Awareness Center helps, as do other places. With Migraine, OCD, Tourette's SND and other Neurological disorders ANY vaccine which lists "Neurolgical" ANYTHING on the insert should be avoided. (Pertusis, Hep B, Chicken Pox, MMR, oral polio ect.) Even the Hep B, as there are more brain injuries from this vaccine than there are CASES of the disease a year!

It amazes me that they have tried to put a "Diarhea Vaccine" (Rotosheild) on the market TWICE, both times, the vaccine caused intestinal blockages, deaths and babies who needed large parts of their intestines removed in order to survuive, yet the doctors are still wanting a "new" vaccine for this. Keep kids outta Day Care for the first 18 months and Rotovirus won't usually be a problem. vax them and there are myriad problems, but I heard on the news the other day (right after the SECOND Rotosheild Vaccine was taken off the market due to infant mobidity and mortality) that "They are working on a new Rotovirus vaccine now." Sheesh.

It is not just the mercury which causes the problems, the injection of viruses into an immature immune system also causes a great deal of the serious side effect, especially when doctors double or triple up on vaccines and inject as many as 16 different viruses into a BABY in the same day.

It took Bear and I over 3 years to do all the research we needed until we got the information which helped us (most of this was pre-internet, though) but I think every parent has the obligation to do this research. Because you doctor is NOT going to tell you.

 

I didn't post to pick a fight, I didn't post to criticize anyones parenting, and I didn't intend to flame, I honestly want to know what leads someone to the conclusion to vaccinate when they know what those vaccines contain, and they know the extreme risk they are taking by doing so. It utterly boggles the mind that someone who loves and cares for a child would willingly inject things into their bodies that can destroy them. It's not a question of what's right and wrong for individual families, it's a question of human morality, a baby can not stop you from injecting them with such unhealthy things. I'm sure the OP loves her child very very much, and i'm sure that the vast majority of parents who do choose to vaccinate love their children very much, however most people vaccinate due to ignorance of what's actually in them. If you've actually done research and you know what is in them, I cannot fathom how you could draw the conclusion that it's still a good idea to vaccinate. Don't get defensive and give me the personal choice argument, that's irrelevant, you can choose to go out and murder someone but that doesen't make it the right thing to do. I really want to know what could possibly lead anyone to the choice of vaccination if they've already done their research, I simply do not understand why, and I would like to know.

-and on a side note, I do love these particular children, as I love all the children of the world. They are the future and our only hope to bring about positive change in this world, so yes I do have a personal interest in seeing all children grow up healthy, happy, and educated.