Anyone being harassed, followed, or annoyed 24/7. Might just be Gang Stalking.

Discussion in 'Paranoid?' started by Gangstalking, Sep 30, 2006.

  1. TresBizzare420

    TresBizzare420 Member

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    par•a•noid:
    1. Relating to, characteristic of, or affected with paranoia.
    2. Exhibiting or characterized by extreme and irrational fear or distrust of others: a paranoid suspicion that the phone might be bugged
    "paranoid." The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. 23 Jan. 2007. <Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/paranoid>

    Is it irrational to believe that a person in a position of power has the potential of abusing it? The probability that a person would abuse his or her position of power would seem to increase drastically if there was no one else to over view the position. Who could prevent an individual, prone of taking advantage of others for self glorification from actually abusing another individual for selfish gain? Do people not take advantage of other people on a daily basis? If one were to deny the existence of abuse on a regular basis, the individual gives off the impression that he or she is not in tune to the daily events surrounding what people define as a typical day.

    While situations like this are rather difficult to believe, one cannot logically make the statement that a situation like this could never occur if a person was able to get away with it and do it.

    The article of debate is whether or not people currently are able to harass other people through the methods regarding those of this thread. There is no question that certain people would harass if they knew how to do it, and thought that they could get away with it. While people debate whether it exists today or ever could exist in the future, it is known that if someone finds a way to harass another individual in such a terrible way, nothing would stop the harassment until other people discover it.

    If this could ever occur, more people would have to be appalled by it for it to stop. People have power in numbers. If the people who believe that this is impossible are right and no one gets harassed like this, then this world that we all live in must always be a wonderful place of smiles and unicorns. If such harassment is impossible, that is definitely a great thing because such action seems like it would be devastating to the individuals involved. The less suffering in the world, the better the world seems to be. One less thing to worry about seems to be one less burden weighing someone down. The less worry one has, the easier one’s life becomes. (To be completely without worry would imply that an individual is carefree to the point that they are completely careless.) To avoid this, balance is a major key.

    When describing an individual ‘a paranoid person,’ one is implying that his or her fear is one of an illogical nature. In order for an individual to be logical, he or she would have to follow some form of logic. People will always have conflict over whose logic is the right logic. Conflict arises when both parties assume that they follow the only proper logic.

    Just because another individual fails to recognize someone else’s logic does not mean that there is no logic to a situation.

    Remember, when a person tortures someone, he or she does it because he or she has an opportunity to do so. It seems that a person who truly wants to hurt would not confide their plan to an individual who they know could stop him or her. Look at how many people were being murdered in the Holocaust. The death and concentration camps were open and running for a rather long time before they were shut down with the end of World War II. Until the ending of the War, the world did not realize just how horrific the situation really was. While it was happening, the few people in comparison to the general population of the world knew about the events within the death and concentration camps. The people stayed silenced because those who knew about it either were by the end brainwashed to support it, or they were held down in fear for their own lives.

    That being said, crimes don’t generally occur in plain view. How many crimes are committed each day? One would probably say many.
     
  2. Gangstalking

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    What is Gang Stalking

    Gang Stalking seems to be a combination of several different initiatives rolled into one.

    It would seem to be a form of the New Community Based Policing initiatives, along with the Cointelpro and older RED SQUAD programs, that have been around for more than a hundread years.

    Primarily for the targets of this harassment it is considered to be a combination of organised stalking and mobbing, that takes place primarily in the targets community. The target is (followed) stalked, mobbed, and harassed 24/7 by groups of citizens. It is said to be "a psychological attack that can completely destroy a persons life, while leaving little or no evidence to incriminate the perpetrators."

    There are now efforts around the world to use something called community based policing. This is more than likely what is playing a large role in gang stalking. "Ruling the community with an iron fist. “Savvy law enforcement types realized that under the community policing rubric, cops, community groups, local companies, private foundations, citizen informants and federal agencies could form alliances without causing public outcry.” Covert Action Quarterly, summer 1997."

    http://www.albionmonitor.com/9711b/policing.html

    Not only is community based policing making a comeback, but police infiltration and repression units often known as Red Squads have also come back full force. These Red Squads ran in many countries around the world.

    This form of harassment is also thought to be similar to United States Government Counter Intelligence Program or Cointelpro for short. This was a program used to destroy many activists and dissidents in the 50's, 60's, 70's. Most methods being used in Gang Stalking are things that were used in this program, with a few new techniques. Recently the United States government started looking into proceeding to reopen investigations into the Cointelpro program, because it's become clear that the program never ended.

    The modern day harassment seems to be funded at a higher government level, with many local groups or appendages taking part. Because there seems to be support of government and many local citizen organisations, it seems that no one is looking into the illegal actions or activities or these programs, and participants.

    Other Names for Gang Stalking

    here are many names for this form of harassment, it would also now seem that Gang Stalking is a term that was invented as part of the disinformation campaign that the government is good at putting together while these harassment campaigns are running. Some of the more popular names for this form of harassment have been Cointelpro, Red Squads, Operation T.I.P.S. and now with the new community based policing programs we have names coming up such as: Multi stalking, vengeance stalking, cause stalking, stalking by proxy, organised stalking, organised harassment, group stalking, community mobbing. These are the new names being given to a very old game, that is once again being played by the government on it's unsuspecting citizens.

    How are targets chosen?

    Targets can be choosen because of many reasons. They can be choosen for political views. They can be choosen for whistle-blowing. They can be choosen because they belong to a dissident movement. They can be choosen because they asserted there rights at work. They can be choosen because they made the wrong enemy. Signed a petition, wrote a letter. They were deemed as suspicious by a member of one of these snitching programs and their names were handed over.

    Goals of Gang Stalking

    The goal is to isolate the target from all forms of support, so that the target can be set up in the future for arrest, institutionalisation, or forced suicide. Other goals of this harassment is to destroy the targets reputation and credibility. Make the target look crazy or unstable.

    Other goals involve sensitizing the target to every day stimuli's as a form of control, which is used to control targets when they get out of line.

    These people also want to make the targets of this harassment vulnerable, they want to make them destitute. The secondary goals seem to be to make the target homeless, jobless, give them a breakdown, and the primary goals seems to be to drive the target to forced suicide, just like what they did with some of the targets of Cointelpro.

    Who gets targeted

    Targeting can happen to anyone, but it's being widely used on minorities, outspoken individuals, whistle blowers, dissidents, people who go up against large wealthy corporations, woman's groups, (single) women, anti-war proponents, and other innocent individuals. The majority of the targets are not aware this is happening to them and it continues for years. Even when a target moves, changes jobs, the harassment still continues. Every time the target moves, the government, or the local intelligence unit of the police will follow them around and start to spread the same lies, and slander to their new employers, coworkers, landlords, etc.

    Who takes part

    People from all walks of life are being recruited to be the eyes and ears of the state. People from all races, ages, genders and walks of life. You have your garden variety snitches, you have general labourers, the very wealthy, biker, drug dealers, user, street people, punks, hip hop culture, KKK, black activists, church groups, youth groups, every sector of society that you can think of is a part of this. Eg. Firemen, police officers, lawyers, health care workers, store keepers, maids, janitors, cable installers, phone repair persons, mail carriers, locksmiths, electricians, etc. The ages range from five to eighty five and older.

    These government Suburban Spy programs for some is seen as a game of cat and mouse. They see themselves as heroic spies for the state. Some are just power hungry slithering money hungry snitches, who would sell their mothers down the drain, much less innocent people. Other are asked and do it out of a sense of patriotic duty, others are forced to take part in the spying activity.

    Some might have started out by taking part in community programs like, Citizen Corp, Weed and Seed, Citizens On Phone Patrol, (COPP), City Watch, T.I.P.S. Many started with good intentions to help patrol and monitor their cities and neighbourhoods. It seems however that some sectors of society are abusing these programs, or some governments are condoning the practices that are being carried out on innocent citizens by those taking part in these programs, just like with Cointelpro.

    Many do not understand or care that the end consequence of this game is to destroy a person.

    Why people participate in gang stalking

    There are many reasons that someone takes part in this activity.

    1. Some do it for the sense of power that it gives them.

    2. Others do this as a way to make friends and keep friends. It's something social and fun for them to do.

    3. Other are forced or black mailed or forced by the State or the police into taking part.

    4. They are told that they are part of homeland or national security and being used to help keep and eye on dangerous individuals.

    They come from a variety of programs such as the Citizen Corp, Citizen On Phone Patrol COPP, Weed and Seed, City Watch or some other centeralised government program used for patroling and monitoring cities, such as T.I.P.S.

    5. Others are just local thugs or informants who are already being used for other activities, and their energies are just diverted over into these community spy programs. Eg. Some may be given the choice of Spying for the State or the police vs going to jail.

    6. Others are told outright lies and slander about the target to get them to go along with ruining the targets life.

    Techniques used against targets

    a) Classical conditioning.

    Getting a target sensitised to an everyday stimuli. The target over a period of months, or even years is negatively sensitised to an everyday stimuli, which is then used to harass them. It's used out in public to let them know they are constantly being harassed and monitored. Some examples of everyday stimulus that might be used include: sounds, colors, patterns, actions. Eg. Red, white, yellow, strips, pens clicking, key jangling, loud coughing, loud whistling, loud smacking of clapping of hands together, etc.

    b) 24/7 Surveillance

    This will involve following the target everywhere they go. Learning about the target. Where they shop, work, play, who their friends and family are. Getting close to the target, moving into the community or apartment where they live, across the street. Bugging targets phone, house, and computer activity.

    c) Isolation of said target.

    This is done via slander campaigns, and lies. Eg. People in the targets community are told that the target is a thief, into drugs, a prostitute, pedophile, crazy, in trouble for something, needs to be watched. False files will even be produced on the target, shown to neighbours, family, store keepers.

    d) Noise and mimicking campaigns.

    Disrupting the targets life, sleep with loud power tools, construction, stereos, doors slamming, etc. Talking in public about private things in the targets life. Mimicking actions of the target. Basically letting the target know that they are in the targets life. Daily interferences, nothing that would be too overt to the untrained eye, but psychologically degrading and damaging to the target over time.

    d) Everyday life breaks and street theatre.

    Flat tires, sleep deprivation, drugging food, putting dirt on targets property. Mass strangers doing things in public to annoy targets. These strangers might get text messaged to be at a specific time and place, and perform a specific action.

    It might seem harmless to these strangers, but it could be causing great psychological trauma for the target. Eg. Blocking targets path, getting ahead of them in line, cutting or boxing them in on the road, saying or doing things to elicit a response from targets. Etc.

    Where does the support or funding for this come from

    Though Gang stalking itself is immoral and unethical in nature, it can just like Cointelpro be funded by:

    1. Government organisations. These diffuse and disrupt methods can be used on a variety of targeted individuals.

    2. Military facilities might be using this also against enemies or on illegal test subjects.

    3. Large wealthy corporations. Many are providing support for these programs. Who then will use their influence to have files opened on workers to keep them quite.

    What can you do to help

    1. If you know someone who is being targeted in this way please don't do along with it. Don't assume that the person is guilty or a bad person. Many innocent people are currently being targeted, and people are being told lies. This form of harassment is not for fun, it's not harmless, and the goal is to destroy the individual over time.

    2. If you are aware of someone being harassed in this way just don't go along with the harassment. Educate others that harassment is wrong. Knowledge is power, share your knowledge.

    3. You can offer your support to someone who is being unfairly treated, in very small little ways.

    4. Direct people to websites where they can get help and assistance.

    5. You can send out emails to your friends, family, co-workers regarding the harassment that is silently happening to many innocent people.

    6. You can request that your local newspapers or community papers print articles about these new government spying initiatives.

    How do participants communicate

    Communicate happens in a number of ways. When on the street or in cars patrolling, they use baseball or Stasi like signals.

    These include things like tapping the side of the nose, corner of the eye, brushing back the hair 3 times, the infamous double blink, etc.

    Here is a list of Stasi signals that the East German Army use to use. Stasi secret police. http://www.nthposition.com/stasiland.php

    SIGNALS FOR OBSERVATION

    1. Watch out! Subject is coming - touch nose with hand or handkerchief

    2. Subject is moving on, going further, or overtaking - stroke hair with hand, or raise hat briefly

    3. Subject standing still - lay one hand against back, or on stomach

    4. Observing Agent wishes to terminate observation because cover threatened - bend and retie shoelaces

    5. Subject returning - both hands against back, or on stomach

    6. Observing Agent wishes to speak with Team Leader or other Observing Agents - take out briefcase or equivalent and examine contents.

    What resources are there?

    There are many resources on the Internet and elsewhere about this form of harassment.

    Report: 1. http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/police/pdq-eng.PDF

    Books:

    1. Ward Churchill, Jim Vander Wall "Cointelpro Papers"
    2. Protectors of Privilege: Red Squads and Police Repression in Urban America 3. Gloria Naylor. "1996"
    4. Victor Santoro "GASLIGHTING How To Drive Your Enemies Crazy "
    5. Stephen Knight "The Brotherhood"

    Videos: Cointelpro.

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si1bHa45u18

    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJqMcafwFJ8

    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN9TZDL4WqI

    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbMsOGWN_ts


    Cointelpro:

    1. http://www.albionmonitor.com/9711b/policing.html
    2. http://www.aztlan.net/covert.html
    3. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1132/is_n6_v43/ai_11559671
    4. http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/02/354278.shtml
    5. http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1170563559
    6. http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/2002/07/19_Spies.html
    7. http://nord.twu.net/acl/agenda21.html 8. http://rwor.org/a/v24/1161-1170/1161/tips.htm


    Articles:

    1. http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/14/news/korea.php
    2. http://educate-yourself.org/cn/groupstalking17aug05.shtml
    3. http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter78.htm
    4. http://magic-city-news.com/article_6147.shtml
    5. http://sbindymedia.org/newswire/display/1278/index.php
    6. http://gangstalking.ca/reference/bradford.htm


    Websites:

    1. http://www.Rich-essence.com
    2. http://www.Gangstalkingworld.com
    3. http://www.harassment101.com
    4. http://stoporganizedstalking.org
    5. http://www.Cointelpro2.com
     
  3. Max Sennit

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    A: There are many names for this, some of the most popular are. Multi stalking, vengeance stalking, cause stalking, stalking by proxy, organised stalking, organised harassment, group stalking, community mobbing, etc

    Q: Goals of Gang Stalking (^)

    A: The goal is destroy the targets reputation and credibility. Make the target look crazy or unstable. Sensitize the target, isolate the target, silence the target, and make them destitute. The secondary goals seem to be to make the target homeless, jobless, give them a breakdown, and the primary goals seems to be to drive the target to suicide.

    Q: Who takes part? (^)

    A: The surprising thing is that gang stalkers can be found in every level of society. There is no real age barrier, gender barrier, and a variety of races do participate. In almost every occupation in society you can find people who are going along with this. Eg. Firemen, police officers, lawyers, health care workers, store keepers, maids, janitors, cable installers, phone repair persons, mail carriers, locksmiths, electricians, etc. Gang stalking for many is seen as a game, a sport to be played with another individuals life. Many do not understand or care that the end consequence of this game is to destroy a person.

    In almost every occupation in society you can find people who are going along with this. Eg. Firemen, police officers, lawyers, health care workers, store keepers, maids, janitors, cable installers, phone repair persons, mail carriers, locksmiths, electricians, etc.


    Q: Why people Gang Stalk (^)


    Q: Methods used against targets (^)

    A: a) Classical conditioning. Getting a target sensitised to sounds, colors, patterns, actions. Eg. Red, white, yellow, strips, pens clicking, key jangling, coughing, sneezing, whistling, fingers snapping, clapping, etc.

    b) 24/7 Surveillance

    This will involve following the target everywhere they go. Learning about the target. Where they shop, work, play, who their friends and family are. Getting close to the target, moving into the community or apartment where they live, across the street. Bugging targets phone, house, and computer activity.

    c) Isolation of said target.

    This is done via slander campaigns, and lies. Eg. Saying the target is a thief, into drugs, a prostitute, pedophile, crazy, in trouble for something, needs to be watched. False files will even be produced on the target, shown to neighbours, family, store keepers.

    d) Noise and mimicking campaigns.

    Disrupting the targets life, sleep with loud power tools, construction, stereos, doors slamming, etc. Talking in public about private things in the targets life. Mimicking actions of the target. Basically letting the target know that they are in the targets life. Daily interferences, nothing that would be too overt to the untrained eye, but psychologically degrading and damaging to the target over time.

    [/QUOTE]Anyone been harassed, followed and annoyed 24/7. Might be just Gang Stalkers.
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    I've been through that and believe it's happening again.

    This is not paranoia. You said so your self.

    Organised harassment, group stalking, community mobbing etc.

    They do try to destroy their target of reputation, credibility, make the target look like their crazy, unstable, sensitize and isolate the target and silence the target.

    The second goal is they try to make the target homeless, jobless, give them a breakdown.

    Above in the variety of races participate: Police officers, health care workers etc.

    Often use Films against you such as Revelation.

    Then they use words such as you are paranoid, dirty, deluded, why do they keep saying your on drugs, you was going that way, to the left, is that your
    leg making that jingling sound. Let's see if your arm is real, why not you in care, he's lost, direct him, keep an on him after accusing of doing something to someone's property when it's yours, they make your credit run out on purpose when they try to find if what you said is true when outside, smash your TV set in, kick your ass and face, they tell others to keep you behind looking like you've got provation when you haven't been told, they use your friends and family against you making them pretend they don't know about it when they do then they clearly admit it later that we all know you. At least your not trying to cover it up this time, when you wasn't to begin with. Oh he does have a Television, you did at 7:30pm, yesterday, you need medication, get help before it gets worse or you will end up in a care home.

    Other methods, the use of your Phone Number somehow they get giving your nusense Phone calls trying to make everything look like toys, was that a fit, earing aid when you've got headphones on your head listening to music, what's that brown stuff when you've been drinking Tea, they say that's direear, what's that white stuff - drugs when it's tissues and cheese. Where did those cluttery vanish to, there's a Camera on your Dvd Machine put your finger up to it - that's it, remember we can see through every room, stop doing that please, oi you don't live here, you can't go that way, ok we'll let you off we'll be watching you and how did you get round here mate,

    They make the street quiet take you away in a white taxi (unmarked) desguised as a taxi - Bee Line, warning you if you escape from this taxi they'll come after you, they make it look like your from a care home, then they say you don't do that again putting you at the edge of a cliff when they say it, taking you to an address of a Care Home you don't live in then following back to yours trying to get in and asking please can we come in. Then they apologise, get shop workers to challenge you about your Shopping, accuse you of shop lifting, use your complaints against your self, get others to go on about your life, read your complaint letters wrong and make it look like someone's complained about you, some say this is the first time we've seen each other, set a path out for you in the street, send others to stand by on street corners getting in the way of all angles in your sight to make it look like your looking at them in inapropiate places, them try to bump into you and making look like your escaping from somewhere, that was just a guess, they say no when you say about have had education and certain things in your life, make it look like your not allowed normal in life when you go to a course outside of mainstream, can't go out when you want when you can in the normal life you come from, make it though you don't have equal rights in your own family home, they compare the rules from theirs to your family home, he's not wearing an uniform when they visit you as past time catch up, try to get information of you through others, they follow you to out of town destinations, come in pairs and pretend they don't know each other, act as though their your Care Staff when not, family says their your future Care
    You know which street your on? That's nice for you. Officers call your family prostitutes if you go and report it to them what one has call your mum a prostitute and use the street you live on as a place for prostitutes or try to get you on it. Then they ask for ID at reception to proof who you say you are that your family and not a prostitute even at Editors in the Newspaper Editor Office.
    One said on Phone to me say if you try to committe suicide they'll arrest you for it.
    Caller goes on says god if you wasn't back in 2 hours we'll have called the Police on you.

    Others have said to me this is your dad. (When it's not).

    Oh he's forgotten what he's buying for us. What's he buying now. It's ok he's with us.

    Making your Flat/House look like a Shop when they force their way in saying how much is that.

    Just say this is not a shop, not for sale, these are mine. You buy your own.

    Accusing you of smashing Windows, saying yes it was you, Taxi Drivers smashing their own Car Doors to make you pay £100 and saying your blind. Talk to you mental like they do with retards in care. They give you education outside saying that's your education when they try to find out about certain things about you for their next move. Such as name a Pizza.

    Say Margereta.

    Then they nod and agree with that.

    Saying to you you've got to agree to that.

    Tell them that's not education.

    Not gone out with a Knief this time. Then why did he come out with one from over there.

    Said to my self cause it was a Kitchen Chopping Kneif for Veigtables. Lost my other one for that. Shop Keeper says that was a lie. That's a good Kneif. Who is he?

    Then they pretend it hasn't happened and then they say they don't know anything about it.

    Also say it's cause he/she done this and that to someone. (That's just an excuse).

    You two worked that out, he murded his. .

    They put Camera's on all buildings looking at your Windows on top of buildings and use people from Bus Shelters. The Camera's they use are called PinHole Camera's black and small size square with a button of a lense on it on domes of Brunswick Shopping Centres and within street lights.

    There's lots of different kind of Camera's they use on you. Shop Camera's down nearly every ile especially in Tescos.

    Hidden Camera's in mirrors on Police Vans when they press a button on the side of the Mirrors outside.

    Camera's inside Picture frames on black bubble boards.

    You can find these kind of Camera's on Websites such as Spy Gadgets and gadgets.

    They hope you don't recognise the Police officers when they do this to you.

    They make your eat shit covered in cheese at Shops. Point out at the Cheese you get is drugs and asking you why was your face screwed up like that whey make you taste it.

    Then you say cause it's tangy. They agree to that.

    Shave your own hairy face off when you've got a mustash and beard and make you eat it in the Shop. Looking at you like your black one minute then white.

    Then they get someone to attack you out side a Cash Machine and you report it to the Police then they believe you want to be arrested.

    They wonder who your talking to. Look at you as if it's coming from you.

    When you mention it to your family saying that's evil she/he says you think that's evil.

    Say they can see you through your curtains, show you recordings of your doing pleasure activities.

    They break into your house after watching it for a while in a building nearby and come looking for drugs when their isn't any and make something you've got in your house look like drugs when it's insense for creating spells.

    Then they threaten to say we'll get this dog to attack you and they lock you in your own home.

    They've done that to me too.

    Not just happened where I'm living now something similar also happened in my Birth Place when I was a kid back in the early 80's. Them bursting in patting on walls saying it's hollow working out there's another room of another house behind it whilst I was with my mum.

    Someone thought I was called Steven even then, then someone else came round asking what I'm doing here, well I said I live here of course then our next door neighbours said our last name to him and he still didn't quite work it out.

    A lady wanted to take me away from my family when there was nothing wrong, turned out to be a Cop when I realised much later in my adult years.

    Nowadays I recognised it's the same ones from my Birth Place even the ones that thought I was called Steven in my Birth Place.

    It's not just been happening to me others are going through it too.

    It's appeared on the news about this kind of thing happening to so many of us.

    In most of what they do in that it's slang "Happy Slapping".

    Those things seeems to have stopped with me has been since before Christmas of 2006.

    Still, keep getting an uneasy feeling whilst things are quiet around me. This could be their way of isolating the target like it's never happened.

    Had a fall out with someone who's part of my family but not blood related cause I'd spoke my mind and said to her I believe she's in it together too after what's going on in my latest circumstances. Then she turned against me and said yes this is what I do want to happen to you. Go to your Doctor and get some medication and ask for help before it gets any worse otherwise you will end up in care. Mind you, she's on medication and forgot what she said to me the other day about my bum showing when I was on Holiday with her once. Then she goes well it's the fashion these days anything goes.

    Got another Phone Call and no one didn't answer. So I just put it down.

    They think your dangerous near and with metal things such as Kniefs and Folks and Cheese Greaters.


    For all I know this could be part of their plan to make me look crazy, unstable and homeless.

    With you saying the same thing as me about them doing harassing, followed and annoyed 24/7 then it's not paranoia when they really are out to get ya.

    Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

    Actually the way I see it in that sense, it's the other way round.

    Then they said on the News that's alright for them to do that to someone.

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    What they are doing is all part of bullying and victimising you.

    Like they think you need that treatment. They do it to all in care too.

    Childish.

    I feel sorry for the ones who have been used against themselves without knowing that it's blackmail and think it's arlight for them to do.

    Some say just cause you done something wrong doesn't mean they have to.

    One of my ex mates was like that, just cause his Sister did something wrong to her self that made her kill her self he says well my Sister did it.

    They only do what they do for others cause their too chicken to do it themselves.

    It's dirty work.

    Criminality.

    Government crimes.

    Grow up.

    I'm a civilised society member and I don't tolerate their nonsense.

    And I'm still alive.

    Amen.
     
  4. Max Sennit

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    Why People Participate In Gang Stalking
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    Ain't social nor fun. Especially to the target.

    The target won't thank you for it.

    Don't exspect open arms from your target if you do that to he/she.
     
  5. Max Sennit

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    Most of what you said above has happened to me too.

    Family member mum savataged my modem cable later finding my connection socket broken.

    Found one of my Dvd cases like it had been stabbed right through. Wasn't just a crack. Quite a big slash hole and deep as though a Knief had been forced through it.

    Only one of my mate could have done that.

    Their no mate nor mum of mine if they doing what Gang Stalkers do especially if my mate and mum is working on their behalf.

    My mate and mum of mine is in care.

    I've been feeling quite unwell lately and my mate said that could be cause maybe someone has put something in your food to make you ill.

    Then I read on here that someone said they put things in your food to make you ill.

    And I've been quite ill for about a week since last Saturday with cold and trembling.

    This is serious.

    Once heard on the news that Tescos was putting things in food on the shelves doing it behind their store in store room.

    Oh shit.

    When soon as my mate said that I realised that what it could be.

    He seems to know the answers and I find it's happened to others too.

    Then my mate is in it together too.

    Noticed things gone missing from my apartment too.

    Videos and Dvds of mine that I find valuable and important to my life.

    Ones with my favourate episodes on too.

    It's like they know which ones I like the most and they get told cause I find the episodes I like gone and the only person that knows I like those episodes on my Videos and Dvds is my mate cause he's the one that watched them with me.

    Any friend that does that to you is not your friend.

    When streets get empty then I know I'm going to be attacked in some manner.

    Once the streets was empty and got taken to another town into an old care home in a white taxi when I was coming back out of Hospital after an appointment from voice training. A Bee Line Taxi it was or was it? Looked like a normal white Taxi. (Unmarked). Was forced into that Taxi had no choice.

    Better keep my friend and mum.

    Cause that could be their way of knowing how to not have support and when finish them to get me arrested.

    Yes, I do feel threatened here.

    I've worked it out along time ago, I know what's going on. That's why I'm still surviving and living.
     
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    Someone has managed to delete my post.
    Can't find it anywhere.

    Might have been someone trying to seal up the truth about what I said what's been happening in my life too just like yours with them harassing, following and annoyed 24/7.

    It's been going on since my days where I'm originally from.

    Everything you lot have said has been done to me too.

    This is not paranoia although that's what they want you to believe you are when they say you are paranoid.
    Get help, medication or you will end up in care.

    They've been there watching from windows behind lights of lamps in offices in buildings nearby, on roof tops and scafildings making loud drilling sounds to call them.

    Using the Council on flower patches. Directing you, telling where you was going originally. Make you try to eat Birds, Bird Plop and Dog Shit. Threaten to push you over the edge of a cliff. This is the first time we met. Using things against you such as the Films you like or Films that they think you've seen when your too young to watch most of them such as a Film called Revelations when haven't. When was a teenager.

    My Girlfriends, friends and family have been like that towards me too.

    Cause of something inappropiate I did at my School when I was a young teenager of 16 when wasn't an adult then cause laws was different then.

    What they was doing to me was going on before my new School days in my original place, I come from a City.

    Services say "that's just your imagination".
    "We thought it was his imagination too".
    "Your On Drugs"

    If you say your not.

    Then they say.

    "Then tell me what happened,".

    If you tell the truth about that then they still don't believe it.

    Was planted in my food at a Pub one Saturday when I was a young teenager we found out had been done by one of the Kitchen Staff there whilst having a Disco.

    Then you take the Staff to the Police Station and they take a statement in a Private Interview Room and they ask how you are.

    That's to see if your still effected by the Drug that the Kitchen Staff planted in your food. The answer their looking for waiting to see if your ill still for all their plans and purposes. They laughed about it.

    Was having some sort of heart attack. Others with me just stood there surrounding me thinking it was funny. Even my Staff from Boarders did too. They didn't know what was going on. Bet they knew. They just pretended not to know.

    They Produce Drugs on you in Shops and Streets making it look like yours when it's from their Pocket.

    I'm just informing you of some of the things they do to you do.

    Now that's sick what they do and done.

    My Borther asked me when we was kids to see something of mine once had no idea exactly what he meant so said yes thinking well that's all he wants to see.

    So I showed him. Wasn't meant to turn out like it did at the end.

    Got found out at School about it and told the truth, which got me out of further trouble. Was saved cause of I'd told the truth.

    Don't know why my School should have been involved with that cause my Brother never went to the same School as me when I was kid.

    Still got kind of harassed and followed then, up to 2006.

    Then to be told don't let them get to you, ignore them, that's sometimes hard to do when their at you down every street in more ways than one.

    One stands, one sits, one rides the other way.

    If you turn your head to work out what's going on they make it look like your looking at it in a pedophile way or if your doing something normal without looking to see if it's going on at you then they use that against you.

    Believe it or not.
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    It's not paranoia when their really out to get ya.

    Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.

    Actually it's the other way round to me.
     
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    Made a mistake, my first post wasn't deleted, I'm sure it was. Wasn't on there a minute ago.

    Fuck.

    Still there.
     
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  9. TresBizzare420

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    Stay strong guys. Thats the only thing we could do.

    In looking at you like a pedophile, they hope to make you feel like dirty. They hope to make you feel guilty. They want you to believe you are a pedophile. You will spend who knows how much time feeling guilty wondering perhaps you are a pedophile. You may smile at a child. If they say something to imply pedophile you are to feel defensive as to why you just smiled. There seems something natural in a little kid doing something adorable in interaction with his or her environment. That smile is not the same pleasure that is produced by genuine sexual gratification.

    In the equation of sexual gratification a child is the byproduct of love. It would be illogical to produce an end from an end, as an end is produced from a mean. There is already enough pain in this world. Why would I want to produce more pain from an equation of pain? (If this was even possible.) There are two rather logical reasons why a woman cannot produce offspring with a prepubescent child.

    I know I am not a pedophile. A pedophile is not a person who would care about hurting a child. Something tells me that a person who does not want to hurt a child would not make a good pedophile. Who the fuck am I to take away something so sacred from someone so innocent? Child molestation is a product of previous child molestation. Why settle for sex when there is something greater. The thing that is greater then sex is love. Love is the necessary ingredient for good and meaningful sex. Because a child is a child, he or she is incapable of loving an adult in the way that another adult can love. A “relationship” with a child is not a mutual relationship. For the sex to be good, I as an adult cannot cause harm to someone so much smaller then myself who would be screaming in terror of being violated. Someone screaming in terror is not sexy. I’m sorry, to me it’s not :)

    My private parts are only private because the energy that flows through them are only shared between me and my partner. Had someone touched me before I was ready to be touched I don’t think I would be able to view sexual activity as loving. Imagine a world without love. The perps are living in this world. I would never want to bring a child into this sad sad world without love. The ability to love keeps this world a much brighter place. I’d rather the future generations have hope, thanks.

    If you know yourself and you can look inside your heart you cannot be destroyed. I know I do not want to hurt anyone innocent because I would not enjoy to feel hurt myself. Because I know that I am not a pedophile, nothing anyone can say can ever make me want to hurt children. If you hold your ground, it will be very hard to crush you.

    In case any perp holds his or her doubts, the same thing applies to animals. Yes a kitty rubbing against your legs feels nice because the kitty is soft and warm however the touch of a pet is not anywhere on the same plane as the touch of a lover. If a perp were to suggest rubbing up against a kitty, something of disgust seems to act pretty fast. Nothing sounds sexy in putting your privates anywhere near a paw that’s been digging in a litter box. The same also goes towards receiving a kiss from a dog that’s been eating who knows what, rolling around in dead squirrel, as well as drinking out of the toilet. I would like to think that any person would like the respect of having a partner who cares enough about him or her to care about his or her wishes.

    Because I would like my partner to get off, I would prefer to be clean for my partner. Since an animal outside the human species cannot respect me enough to wash itself, I do not see myself seeking love outside my species. There is something better about being with a person one can love compared to taking advantage of a small mammal.

    If one is going to have sex, one better make it good. Good sex is not good unless both actually enjoy it. One can tell if another is enjoying sex through positive feedback. Perhaps this is the reason human beings do not have to reproduce like angler fish or some of these guys. http://www.canongate.net/Lists/Animals/11ExamplesofUnusualMatingHabits

    For the majority of humans something about the feeling that is created during sex makes it worthwhile.

    After sometime, the perps realized that if they ever try to imply that I would look at a child or animal and feel horny they would have to listen to all my reasons for why that is not going to happen. I’m assuming after awhile this would get very lame to listen to. Being proven wrong over and over again must not be an enjoyable picnic to listen to. They know that I will not let their words get to me. As a result of this, they for the most part refrain from these tactics. They can laugh at me, however when they do this, I will laugh at them.

    If you guys can show the perps why this is impossible, perhaps they may eventually realize that they are lame.
     
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    The Gang Stalkers were Pink and accuse your colours on clothes as been a threat.

    When one wears blue they believe you to be from prison.

    If your wearing blue Jeans and a denim Jacket they and your friends believe is from Prison.

    Red to them is freedom.

    I've noticed on Coronation Street they wear red kind of pinnies Tracy Barlow wore won to let them know their Prisoners when inside having a social meeting with their family or friends.

    Someone sings out loud.

    Cops say "That's Him," or "That Must Be Him,".
     
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    Everytime something like what you said has happened to any of you or if it happens to me at anytime or had done in the past then I'm going to exspose them on here.

    They know who they are.
     
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    Another thing they do is increase your blood pressure via medication in care, which causes the risk of a heart attack.

    It's happening to my mum in care and her blood pressure is 150. That's high.

    And the Doctor is not reducing as he should.

    It's like they want to kill my mum off and guess who will get the blame for her death, me of course.

    I've got a false file too like one of you mentioned all because my grandad died from old age.

    They showed me a hair at the reception when I asked if they got any proof and the hair they showed me was a black grey hair a ladies one. Mine is brown a man's hair.

    The bastards even took my finger prints.

    So yes, what you say is true, they do have false files on us too.

    Death is a fact of life. Everyone dies in the end. Get use to it.
     
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    One can accept death, however until it comes, I would prefer to enjoy my life. That's all I have left, better make the best of the worst and hopefully live another day :)
     
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    TV Documentary – Are You Being Watched?

    She is apparently looking to do a documentary on survellence and wants to speak to people from the Targeted Individual community. Any new Cointelpro targets are welcome to apply. (Oh right I forgot this form doesn't believe in Cointelpro right, and posts like this get put in the paranoid section of the forum.) Anyways, her time frame is the next two weeks and so I thought I would share with you all this info.
     
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    http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1187317587

    Apparently she told others that she had an FBI file that was opened on here when she was in college. All the things they went through with the sabatoages, and reputation slander, sounds like gang stalking. They were pretty upwardly mobile, and it did not stop this from happening to them in the least.

    The sooner people accept that this Cointelpro societal crap is happening again, the sooner something can be done. Maybe if people stopped putting this stuff off in the paranoid section, then people like this could have been saved, just a thought.
     
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    Hi Gangstalking. I've been away from the site for a while, but I'm glad to see your still keeping people infomed on the gang stalking issue. Keep up the good work. You have my support.
     
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    Hi Woodsman,

    I thank you for that. It's discouraging to come to a forum like this, who's members are probably targets of Cointelpro and other such investigations and to have my thread be moved to a section called Mind Trips- Paranoid, but we all must try to over come none the less.

    Here is some new stuff just in.

    Mark M. Rich has just updated his website and he goes into a lot of details about what he thinks Gang Stalking is. I think his site is very well researched. It's http://www.ThehiddenEvil.com

    It's a good site if you want to read and catch up on this stuff.
     
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    You might also want to visit http://www.TargetedIndividuals.com
    It's a site for TI's and it deals with TI issues. It has a wordpress blog that members can sign up for, and a forum.

     
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    I actually read this thread

    The whole thing!!

    For the first 2 seconds I thought it was interesting.

    Then I realized it was some sort of scam.


    But I cant see any monetary motives to this "scam"

    So I asked myself why are they doing this? Why are these anti-gangstalkers trying to induce paranoia?


    I now believe this is much more serious and organized than when I started reading


    Who are these anti-gangstalkers?

    And Why are they trying to mess with our heads?



    Their "scam" is so well thought of and organized it does not look like the work of simple individuals

    They exploit common fears and paranoia to make people believe in their scheme


    The things they say are "clues" for identifying gang-stalking are just normal things that happen every day

    They target especially individuals that have reasons of being paranoid like members of activist groups, people that have different political views, homosexuals etc..

    If you take one step in believing them, then you will start noticing "patterns" and "suspicious" behavior everywhere

    DO NOT FALL FOR IT

    If you are gay and think people are talking behind your back or are making fun you its not gang stalking. Its just normal people who are just not openminded enough to accept homosexuals

    If you think people are being mean to you or your neighbours seem to not like you they are not gang stalking you. You are simply not well liked by some of your neighbours because you might seem weird or not act normally etc..


    People scratching their noses in public or tying their shoelasses are not using stazi undercover signals. They are just scratching their noses or tying their shoelasses for the love of God


    HOWEVER surveillance does indeed happen. Cameras are indeed being placed all over the UK. The Internet can and is being watched.

    THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GANG STALKING. The only people that will ever have a reason to monitor everyone are the governments and the people who control it

    The very same people that as I suspect are responsible for this gang-stalking hype.

    Your neighbours and the every day people you meet ARE NOT GANG - STALKERS.

    They are not part of some secret plot to monitor your every day lives

    Please be sensible do some research and dont fall prey to these people


    This anti-gangstalking thing has got me intrigued so much that I have decided to understand their motives and fight them in any way I can

    Whenever you feel you are being watched. Whenever you think people are laughing at you or are trying to drive you crazy, lighten up and laugh at yourself. It happens even to the best of us (especially after a nice strong bag [​IMG])


    Your next door gang-stalker LMFAO
     
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    Yeah and Cointelpro and Stasi Germany never happened right? People like you are either very naive, or you are purposely trying to throw people off from the truth, that's a dangerous thing.

    Many activist and dissident groups have been taken down by Cointelpro, compare some of the tactics.

    Then what you do see there, find out what happened in East Germany with these Citizen Informants.

    As a community that should have seen Cointelpro before, hopefully you can do your own research.

    Oh and here is some food for thought. Since this is a big joke. What are these articles about then?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2253033,00.html

    Britain is slithering down the road towards a police state

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,658321-1,00.html

    Eyes And Ears Of The Nation

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/02/13/rcmp-privacy.html?ref=rss

    RCMP slammed for storing secret files on Canadians

    http://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20080214_snitch_state.htm

    The Snitch State
    Stasi-style secret police system forming in Canada, Britain, US


    Wow I guess those four articles are just a part of this well organised imaginary plot right? Eventually this will get exposed. That is going to happen. Do I think that will stop this? No. I am not that naive. But this stuff will get exposed. Sooner than later.
     

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