Vote for Kucinich, the only vegan in Congress!!!!!!!!!!!

gratefulvegan · Apr 13, 2007

http://kucinich.us/

He is a great guy with great values.

Crystalsatreehugger · Apr 13, 2007

is he running again? he was my canidate for president last time. didn't make much strides through. too bad. he believed in a department of peace, to coexists or perhaps replace the department of war.

dudenamedrob · Apr 13, 2007

I'll say it again.....out of all the assholes in the field right now.....I think he's the only rational choice, he's got my vote.

Avocado Noni · Apr 13, 2007

Michael Franti did a piece with him recently, he seems like a good guy, definatley the one I would support - https://www.youtube.com/frantiV

Willy_Wonka_27 · Apr 13, 2007

he had my "too young to vote" vote last election.

he will have my "yay, i can now vote" vote this election.

WalkerInTheWoods · Apr 16, 2007

If you like him you better vote for him in the primary. He is going to need all the help he can get.

pheonix · Apr 18, 2007

if i were old enough to vote, i would vote for him. hopefully my dad and my brother will vote for him though.

napolean inrags95 · Apr 22, 2007

if voting changed anything they would make it illegal. that be said, dont be apathetic! vote every single fucking day.

dudenamedrob · Apr 23, 2007

I retract my earlier statement regarding my support for Kucinich, I no longer support him. I'm a very strong supporter of the constitution and he just drafted legislation to usurp the second amendment, to hell with him.

WalkerInTheWoods · Apr 23, 2007

I don't support him either, but I do support people having a choice. Which is why I pointed out the options for those who do support him.

I do think it is cool he is vegan though.

sweetdreadlover · Apr 25, 2007

voting.."shudders"...i dont trust ANYBODY in politics..he may SEEM like a good person but no one really knows this

Willy_Wonka_27 · Apr 25, 2007

dudenamedrob said:

I retract my earlier statement regarding my support for Kucinich, I no longer support him. I'm a very strong supporter of the constitution and he just drafted legislation to usurp the second amendment, to hell with him.
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Kucinich said:

I support the right to bear arms.
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can you post a link please?

sweetdreadlover · Apr 25, 2007

you not suppose to post links in the thread

dudenamedrob · Apr 25, 2007

Willy_Wonka_27 said:

can you post a link please?
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Sure thing.

Dennis Kucinich has shot himself in the foot pardon the pun, by alienating a huge majority of his most vocal and active online supporters, the 9/11 Truth Movement, in drafting legislation that will completely ban the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians.
Kucinich has effectively ended any minute chance he had of becoming President in 2008.

The Congressman from Cleveland has received plaudits for being the only man on Capitol Hill, besides Ron Paul, to even consider pushing for a new inquiry into the events of 9/11. Though Kucinich warned that the investigation "would be limited," he has promised to organize a committee before the end of the year to focus on "Some specific areas that to me represent the most egregious examples of distortion of truth or lack of information."

"By focusing in on that, I'll be able to bring forward a new dimension to the discussions. And from there, we'll move ahead," said Kucinich.

According to Raw Story, the Congressman has also selected a date to introduce articles of impeachment against Vice President Dick Cheney.

Wonderful, empowering, a breath of fresh air - but you know it just sounded too good to be true, because now comes this;

"Kucinich is currently drafting legislation that would ban the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians."

That's right - our intrepid warrior in the fight to restore the Constitution, wants to gut the very bedrock of it - the Second Amendment.

Just as the Bush administration exploited the immediate aftermath of 9/11 to ram through the Patriot Act, Kucinich cites the Virginia Massacre as evidence of a "national emergency" that requires an instant assault on the bill of rights to "protect" us all from the madmen.

Kucinich is seemingly willing to entertain the notion that 9/11 was carried out by a ruthless gang of bloodthirsty Neo-Fascists within our own government, yet he thinks we should all hand in our only means of defense against such thugs when the men in black ski-masks come knocking.

Notice Kucinich specifies that only "civilians" will be forced to turn in their weapons - the guardians of the state will still be allowed to arm themselves to the teeth to keep us all safe.

Gun control is a religion, and no matter how many facts you throw out about how guns prevent hundreds of thousands of crimes every year, or arguments about how criminals don't obey laws and gun control only disarms the victims, the majority will never change minds that are already made up.

Liberals still argue that the language of the Second Amendment applies only to a "well regulated militia" and not the individual, selectively ignoring the very framers of the Constitution, the founding fathers, who in their writings made it abundantly clear that the right to bear arms was included so Americans had a recourse to defend themselves against a tyrannical government - the very tyranny that Kucinich is grandstanding to oppose in his 9/11 and impeachment movements.

A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.
--- Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1785. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, (Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors.

We established however some, although not all its [self-government] important principles . The constitutions of most of our States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, (as in electing their functionaries executive and legislative, and deciding by a jury of themselves, in all judiciary cases in which any fact is involved,) or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed;
---Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824. Memorial Edition 16:45, Lipscomb and Bergh, editors.

No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
---Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution, 1776.

[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.
---James Madison,The Federalist Papers, No. 46.

Zacharia Johnson argued that the new Constitution could never result in religious persecution or other oppression because:
"[T]he people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them."

Roger Sherman, during House consideration of a militia bill (1790):

[C]onceived it to be the privilege of every citizen, and one of his most essential rights, to bear arms, and to resist every attack upon his liberty or property, by whomsoever made. The particular states, like private citizens, have a right to be armed, and to defend, by force of arms, their rights, when invaded.

14 Debates in the House of Representatives, ed. Linda Grand De Pauw. (Balt., Johns Hopkins Univ. Press, 1972), 92-3.

Many more quotes can be found here.

Activists within the 9/11 Truth Movement who believe that elements of the U.S. government attacked them on September 11 but support relinquishing the only defense against tyranny to these very same killers are in serious need of a wake up call. They should also immediately identify with George W. Bush, who also shares their zeal for gun control.

Dennis Kucinich needs to understand that if he attempts to legislate away our fundamental liberties and our single defense against tyranny while proclaiming himself to be a champion of freedom, his hypocrisy will be his downfall and the 9/11 Truth Movement will desert him.
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Source:http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/200407banguns.htm

dudenamedrob · Apr 25, 2007

sweetdreadlover said:

you not suppose to post links in the thread
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Since when??

Forum Posting Guidelines/Terms of Service said:

Spamming: Those who come here and post numerous links to other commercial websites, forums, chatrooms or communities, without actually contributing any content to this website will be banned without notice. It's fine to post an occasional interesting link to another website, in the context of a thread's subject, but to only do that or to do it repeatedly is not allowed. If you have your own website, you can put the URL in your profile and a link will be posted to your site in every post you make so there is no reason to add it to your posts, signature or PMs.

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Willy_Wonka_27 · Apr 25, 2007

dudenamedrob said:

Sure thing.
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thanks.

sweetdreadlover · Apr 25, 2007

dudenamedrob said:

Since when??
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Uh since always...check the rules

dudenamedrob · Apr 25, 2007

sweetdreadlover said:

Uh since always...check the rules
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I have, perhaps you should have actually read the quote in Post 15 after I said "since when?", it is a direct quote from the forum guidelines......here it is, again....

Forum Posting Guidelines/Terms of Service said:

Spamming: Those who come here and post numerous links to other commercial websites, forums, chatrooms or communities, without actually contributing any content to this website will be banned without notice. It's fine to post an occasional interesting link to another website, in the context of a thread's subject, but to only do that or to do it repeatedly is not allowed. If you have your own website, you can put the URL in your profile and a link will be posted to your site in every post you make so there is no reason to add it to your posts, signature or PMs.
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Notice the highlighted part..........understand now?

BraveSirRubin · Apr 25, 2007

Yes, you can post links (unless all you post is a link without any input on the link).

Anyhow, isn't it a bit silly to vote for a person because they are a vegan? It's nice and all, but...common. ( I myself like Kucinich, but he never did have a chance to win in the first place).

mariecstasy · Apr 25, 2007

Michael Franti rocks

I'm not sure where I am at in my voting, I really need to look into it further. I dig the fact that he is so involved in the attempts for a Department of Peace. I believe in the Law of Attraction and that if you put your focus on pro-peace opposed to anti-war..then your results will be better. But I live in my own universal bubble
However they all have issues. I tend to sway towards Obama still...but that is without deep investigation.

Avocado Noni said:

Michael Franti did a piece with him recently, he seems like a good guy, definatley the one I would support - https://www.youtube.com/frantiV
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