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Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Razorofoccam, Apr 12, 2007.

  1. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

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    When.
    Does a perceptual schematic become consciousness.
    When
    Does a difference engine become a search for truth.
    When
    Does a personality simulation become the bitter mote
    of a soul.

    These are things we 'children' now must ask.

    Do you think the 'god' of religion cares of such things.
    No. it cares only that we obey

    Do you think the 'no god' of athiesm . The random.
    Could ever result in such. No

    There is no religion
    There is no atheism

    There is just 'us'.
    And all that 'us' does not encompass.

    Which is 99.9 % of everything.
    We know nothing.

    Let us begin.

    Occam

     
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    mati Member

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    how would one no "truth" when they find it? by what criterion would it be measured?
     
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    heeh2 Senior Member

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    i wouldnt suggest their is a "them" in existance

    but i would propose it......
     
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    the wonderful picture of the sad clown is Emmet Kelley (sp). Born in a small town not to far from here. This has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the thread but is a nice recogition of the fact that the world and existance is and can be more that what we ask for at first.
     
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    Emmett Kelley was born in Sedan Kansas which is a little nowhereburg on US 166 east of Witchita. he was always the sad faced clown and peformed alone instead of with a "troup of clowns" which is common in circuses. One of his last performances on the Carol Burnett show he performed his signiture ending by "sweeping up the spot light" and then fade to black. In a real sense that is what we all do and even though his act was aligory, we all still live the last act, put out the light and fade to black. The rest of the stuff is either icing on the cake or stuffing in the pillow and what determines what is just your personality and point of view. I have huge respect for you Occum and i realize that a lot of what you do here is to inspire thought and debate in others. Don't get too wrapped up in it though. the end for you is the same end we all share...the mystery of oblivion...when the spot light is gone and the darkness is upon us.
     
  6. Razorofoccam

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    Bamboo

    Well thanks.. thats a nice honest answer.
    Occam tries not to get to wrapped up in it but he despairs for the lost potential of children.
    Lives that could be are crushed beneath the boots of the greedy
    and ignorant.

    And occam is looking forward without fear to..'the end'

    Its a no loss equation. Anti entropy..;)
    If there is oblivion occam has had a life and now does not exist to mourn
    it's end [as if he would]
    If there is more, then cool, will take it as it comes.
    Maybe a life of a generalist will come in handy.

    All up occam has gained.
    He did not ask to exist, he did not earn it's inception.
    Yet he does exist and soon he wont.

    ITS ALL A GIFT.

    A gift bestowed by the laws of reality.

    Occam
     
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