Christianity: The anti religion?

I was thinking about this the other day after talking to my sister about Islam (funny way to start a christian thread huh?)

Anyway, She explained christianity as "hey, we sin all the time, there is no way you can be 100% good so why try, accept Jesus (AS) and all will be forgiven AND your promised paradise".

But what kind of religion is this? Basically, after you accept Jesus (AS), your done with religion. You don't have to do sqat. She even said you can be gay, die having butt sex, but since you believe in Jesus (AS) your home free. What the heck? There is no religion in this at all.

What do you think? I was raised buddhist and converted to Islam, and I have always believed that "enlightenment" or "Paradise" was not cheap. It was not a matter of accepting something and then just going on to live your life before you accepted that person. In fact, most of the worst people I have ever met were christians. But hey, they accepted Jesus (AS), they are home free.

 

So do you think people can be 100% good? Most muslims I've met fall far short of this.

Anyway, your pal is wrong. To be a Christian you have to follow Jesus' commandments. "Christianity Lite" as preached by US evangelists etc is not real Christianity, but a fudge.

 

I think people screw up, but they have the potential to be really really good (I don't want to put it into percentages) and to purposely fall short of that is retarded.

Ok, I understand the following of Christs rules, but I believe some of them are not applicable to the reality we live in. For instance, turning the cheek. Could you explain to me what you mean by Jesus' AS teachings?

 

Those who say that things like turning the other cheek don't apply are wrong - it is an abberated version of Christianity they believe in.

I'm sure you know that Jesus teachings can be found in the gospels.

 

Well, as far as Jesus' (alayhi salaam) teachings being found in the gospels, I've got to disagree. From what little of his instructions that can be found there, it is clear that everything he actually taught to his followers was quickly abandoned and taken out of the gospels, and is now totally lost to us~
e.g. "and all those who believed were together and shared all things in common"
-this clearly illustrates that Jesus (alayhi salaam) taught his disciples a doctrine for a way of living that, try as you might, you couldn't possibly piece together if one were to spend all of their life reading the tattered remnants of His teachings that are left in what are called the 'Gospels.'
It's all diluted- there's precious little of His actual word left in it.

So, it's no wonder that we see so many 'Christians' who, in all honesty, have no real religion to speak of. It's just a massive country-club with an insanely sectarian, individualistic, 'holier-than-thou' atmosphere, and a little crucifix around everybody's neck for a pretty little gilded facade of piety, that can't possibly lead to any place.

If anybody might be offended by my saying this,~
well, you have my sympathy, but unfortunately not my appologies.
Try to have a groovy day.

 

This is somewhat relevant to this thread.

Also, it's Bob the Angry Flower.

 

Strange that, as in my version there are many teachings of Jesus. Perhaps you haven't read it? Or perhaps this is just muslim propaganda you're seeking to spread here. Either way, the idea that the Bible contains no teachings on how to live is ludicrous.

No - Jesus was wise, and realized that a set formula for life which allowed for no growth or developmentin society could only result in a stagnant culture, as it had done with Judaism in his own time, and as it has with Islam in our time. The only development since the middle ages in Islam has been what has been imported from the west. Even the technologies which have given the rulers of middle eastern countries their fabulous wealth is only as a result of science and technology which was developed almost exclusively in the christian west.

As for there being 'precious little left' - that is simply nonsense. Do you imagine for example that the sermon on the mount was devised at a later date by others? If so, on what evidence do you base that?

Relace crucifixes around necks with chequered head scarves and that sounds quite like Saudi Arabia to me.

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I expect my day has been somewhat more groovy than your own.

 

I totally agree with you. I do feel like the words of Jesus are lost "in translation" as well as Constatine's selection of "appropriate" gospels contained within the average Christian bible. Check out the gnostic version. It contains a few gospels not used in other bibles.

Peace and love

 

The gnostic teachings are different in some respects, but the general moral direction is pretty much as per the canonical gospels.
Some gnostic documents are probably more genuine then others - many were written centuries after the 1st century.

But the point here seems to be that whatever we think of Christianity or the Bible, there is no doubt that it does contain teachings about how to live, such as 'love one another' and so on.

Also, I think you should ask yourself with a number like that tagged to your user name if you would prefer Islam with it's set of 'rules for life'? That's what these folks are pushing here as superior.

 

Thank you very much~
I'll try to check that out.
If they don't have it at sacred-texts.org,
it might take a while to get a hold of,
but it'd deffinitely be worth looking for.

Feel the love!

 

This thread starts off like a turd in a sack of apples. Its obvious that its a windup as everyone knows that jesus may forgive you but the law wont and that the queen is gods representative on earth which is why we have prisons and if you are bad on earth the queen will set the corgi's on you and will throw you in prison but afterwards god will forgive you

 

What you know about 'God' is none of my business,
but are you saying that mindless obedience to the
government nullifies your sins?

...That's just what I'm seeing when I read that~

 

Corgis can be very savage.
About time we said goodbye to queenie and her clan IMO.

 

Snake, I know you weren't listing all the examples of the teachings of "love one another" but, what religion besides satanism says not to love each other? Christianity is not a way of life or even a set of principles, Just "accept the Lord who loves you so much he gave his only living son or burn".