Death's in Iraq reach One Million.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17388.htm

This speaks for itself. Take a moment and actually *think* about that number......

 

I find that number more reasonable an estimation than Bush's administrations estimate of 65,000.

I am just amazed when I view this page of the casualty database that were reported during our "Shock and Awe" campaign.

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/database/bodycount_date_down145.php?ts=1174666038

The US expended all those missiles and bombs for 383 casualties. Either the numbers are wrong, or those that died were expensive targets.

 

iraq is part of an ethnic cleansing operation - spread the word.

 

I guess most don't care how many Iraqis have been killed.

 

did anyone really care when the jews were being sent to the gas chambers, even the jews in america didn't say much, no one said very much because it was bad for business. so much money is being made in iraq no one wants to talk about the deaths. everyone now knows what is being done in iraq, this is why everyone now knows why negotiation is not possible, could anyone reason or negotiate with the nazis? what we are seeing in the middle east is the middle stage of the beginning of a mass genocide. iraq is another crusade to the middle east, alot of money is being poured in, i think i've even seen the english nobility starting to get involved, perhaps they will be captured and held for a kings ransom like richard the lion heart? time will tell but not in my lifetime in about 150 years.

any mass invasion is only the prelude to greater plans, mass genocide, mass war crimes the end of civillisation for the loser.

 

Its odd that they hate each other,( Sunni vs Shia, Arab vs Kurd) more than they hate Americans. Its a shame.

 

They are being pitted against each other in the process of delineating the PSAs for the oil rights. Money makes enemies of even brothers.

 

A friend of mine who served several tours in vietnam said that he used to work on "body cleanup" and that - unless the government has become WAY more honest (which we know they haven't), the official reports that are issued about casulties on both sides should ALWAYS be multiplied by at least 10. So you gotta figure we're talking over half a million people at least. And that would be all they KNOW about. So sure, a million would make sense.

 

Sounds like an accurate way of estimating to me.

 

Yes

The head of the British army General Sir Richard Dannatt has told Sky News that Prince Harry will be deployed to Iraq.

It follows reports that officials were becoming increasingly worried insurgents will target the prince and are considering a ban on him fighting on the frontline.

Sir Richard said: "The decision has been taken that he will deploy''.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1263499,00.html

You will not have to wait that long - I hope he is not captured or killed.
I think you know my feeling on your theory of ''ethnic cleansing''.

I think the amount of people that have died is terrible -

The problem is imho the ''bodycount'' is always looked at with one eye on how you feel about the war [legalitity/justifiablility] - so i try and not go down that road.

Thousands of people died in WW2 - every single day - because of us - not indirectly - DIRECTLY. Not in a initial “Shock and Awe” invasion phase.
We just do not seem to go on about how many people WE killed through “Shock and Awe” almost relentlesly. So in comparison this current war has been remarkably restrained.

The end result was supposedly a ''free europe''.

I wonder if the ''bodycount'' effected how people felt or feel about WW2 ?.

I'd consider WW2 as legitimate -
That sounds like i think the deaths WE have caused are ''ok''- not so.

I just think the rationale to find out how many people have died has a agenda all of its own.

e.g:

''The count includes civilian deaths caused by coalition military action and by military or paramilitary responses to the coalition presence (e.g. insurgent and terrorist attacks).''

In other words it is all our fault. Forget about the responsibility that should be placed on the Insurgency/Terrorists.

As is said every day here - ''this war was not legal/justifiable'' - i think it was. So i'm not likely to find favour here.

I've decided not to judge this war on how many people have died -

 

I wholeheartedly agree with this statement but we probably disagree with the context of the "agenda". IMHO the agenda is to inform and educate people of the true number of deaths in order to try and stop the monumental bloodshed. I realize these statistics can be utilized to achieve a number of end results, mostly nefarious, however I really do believe it is that simple....and even if people are politicizing, and profitizing the statistics, that's fine by me because the end result (if it were to work) would be less death.

 

If it touched the hearts of the insurgency and the terrorists - hell even policy makers in the various countrys that have troops in Iraq - it may just quell the ''bodycount''.

The sad truth is that the insurgency and the jihadist terrorists do not care how many people are being killed - as they would put their guns/bombs down and start talking.

The goverments on the whole do care - but the cold hard truth is they will notch up their ''bodycount'' to ''collateral damage''.

If we look at it coldly - less than 8000 civilians have been killed by ''shock and awe'' .

How many died because they had no time to remove themselves - or had nothing to do with hiding terrorists or insurgents - we will never know.

That obviously is here nor there - innocent people have died as a result of our invasion - this should not be baggaged together with the thousand upon thousand of civilians that have been killed due to terrorist/jihadists killing - for political / religous / ideological reasons - nothing to do with our invasion.

I'm sure the excuse of ''well if we did not invade'' will be banded about - that negates the fact that if the goal of the terrorists/jihadists was to propogate a ''Free Iraq'' for Iraqi people - they do a terrible job and are hypocrites. We should not be held accountable for those deaths - as i believe the website suggests.

I'd still ask - removing personal prejudices - should it [''bodycount''] be a factor in determining how the situation is going. Supposedly the more deaths the more we should be requesting our troops home.

As I eluded to - the truth is not many people have been killed as a direct consequence of ''our'' action.
The politicians will ofcourse shed a tear at the ''bodycount'' but overall this ''war'' has had few civilian deaths as a direct result of our actions.
The majority have been killed by the actions of others - with motives of their own.

If the goal of the website is to ''inform and educate people of the true number of death''

Then it does a fair job at that.

''and stop the monumental bloodshed''

It does not do a good job.

I believe its agenda is to blame all the deaths because of the invasion of Iraq by our troops and the politicians that sent them there - attempting to highlight the amount of people dying as a result of our invasion.

As soon as you hit the home page that agenda is clear. A large US plane and a comment from ''US command'' to the final statment from Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt [taken out of context].

Well i'd like it to prevent civilian deaths as well - unfortunatly this is not going to happen - the bodycount just keeps riseing.

 

Fucking depressing number

 

iraq should never been invaded, it is an illegal operation.

iraq is a prelude to further invasion.

as was afghanistan