You need to know this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...ex+alimentarius and after you understand what they are trying to take away from all people everywhere, then please go and help these people: www.healthfreedomusa.org Sign the petition to the FDA. Please do this now! We only have until April 30th!
Please watch this video, sign the petition............this is some serious serious shit, probably one of the most serious issues in human history!!!!!!
I'm not concerned about my health, so I will not sign the petition, but I do wish you all luck in your quest.
Its definately about being able to choose what is right for yourself and that includes the stuff our Mother has given us. There is no way in hell anything of that sort should be considered illegal. Big Brother has lost their mind...or least hopes that we will lose ours in their constant pull for complete power. I dont see how it could happen but I don't doubt anything anymore. There is so much under our noses being done and so much we don't know. But how do people fight and counter that...How do you do it in love and righteousness and justice when the fighting on the other side is injust and suffocating? Gil, glad you posted in other places
then whats the point of being knowledgable about what is going on? why not live with the whole "ignorance is bliss" deal? Why even have faith, hope, charity? Why even care if the thought is nothing can be done? (not trying to be argumentative...I have no energy for that...just looking for perspectives)
To prepare yourself and do the best you can for you, your family, and your community. Because that is dangerous. You're getting a bit out there now.........fighting plutocrats does not work.........we've seen this time and time again....occassionally we may win some small battle but it's largely a symbolic token when you take all of the wasted effort into account. After fighting for years i've become very jaded (actually I prefer to think of it as "realistic") the best you can hope for is to educate as many as possible and prepare for what's to come.....
Yep, I went a bit out there... Hehee.....I am not much of a fighter in regards to all of these things to tell you the truth. I just know that there are things that are under our noses going on and there are ways to supposedly fight it but the things that are happening are so very huge that there really doesn't seem a way to get past them as they are really already decided(though I already signed the petition and will continue to speak up for what I feel is injust...I just don't have much hope in it). So I just don't even know why we fight at all? Its crazy that so few can control so many. So why even sign a petition? Is that more of a grounded statement? LOL...my kiddo and I were cleaning and I was juggling too many thoughts at once...sorry that I lost my grounding on the previous question.
Why sign a petition?? Honestly because somethings better than nothing at all.......I have zero hope in it, but I still feel compelled to at least try, however I will not focus all of my energy and effort into fighting anymore, i'll redirect that into preparing, educating, and doing my best to minimize impact.
May 3, 2007 Good News Travels Fast! Your activism just saved supplements from being turned into "untested drugs"! Big Pharma will be back, but today, we can do a victory dance! Thank you 435,005 times. That's the number of people who used our site to submit their comments to the FDA on their dangerous CAM Guidance through our site. 182,484 succeeded but, since our site was interfered with several times, 252,521 people did not. We were working feverishly to submit those comments manually. Ready for Some Great News? Although the FDA denied our request to extend the comment, failed to update its site or its comment tally, extended the comment period and then resinded the extension (!), our collective voice won us a huge victory in Congress today. Because we rallied behind our health freedom and access to natural health products, every member of the Senate voting today heard us loud and clear and acted -- without a single dissenting voice -- to protect our health freedom! Read what "the Vitamin Lawyer ", Ralph Fucetola, has to say about the impact of our activism in an email on the topic today: "And some very good news: Congress has accepted the following amendment to S.1082 - Enhancing Drug Safety and Innovation Act of 2007 - from Sen. Durbin. It appears that Congress heard our concerns! Hundreds of thousands of messages to FDA no doubt reverberated through the halls of Congress. The amendment was adopted by the Senate 94 to zero. Sec. X08. Rule of Construction Nothing in this title (or an amendment made by this title) shall be construed to affect-- (1) The regulation of dietary supplements under the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act; or (2) The adverse event reporting system for dietary supplements created under the Dietary Supplement and Nonprescription Drug Consumer Protection Act. Like many victories in Congress, you hardly ever get everything you want. Leading supplement industry lawyer, J. Emord, originally proposed exempting all "foods" from the new law (Counsel stated: "It is a fundamental tenet of food and drug law that foods and food ingredients are presumed to be safe and have to be established to be adulterated only if they present a significant or unreasonable risk of illness or injury." This approach would have offered even greater protection for natural products, but we are grateful that enough members of Congress heard the loud shout from the public and responded so quickly to at least protect DSHEA products -- the power of Internet politics at its best." Internet Politics at its best: That's YOU! And Now the Same Process is Taking Place in Codex! The same thing is happening on the International level, in Codex Alimentarius. There is a roaring tide of empowered voices saying "We decide how we want our freedom served, thank you!" When the US once again tried to kill further consideration of mandatory labeling of genetically modified foods and ingredients (GMOs) at the Codex Committee on Food Labeling (CCFL) here in Ottawa, Canada, they got a rude surprise. Instead of letting the US/Canada/Australia/New Zealand/Argentina/Mexico/Brazil bloc of GMO grain exporters have their way and kill any international requirement for such labeling, which would be consistent with the US refusal to allow suceh labeling in the US, and very, very good for its friend, the Biotech industry, the story played out rather differently. False and Misleading Truth Continuing to work on the premise that the truth about GMO food would be false and misleading, the US has been trying to extend its own domestic policy of prohibiting GMO labeling to the rest of the world. The issue of labeling has been on CCFL's docket for 14 years. For that entire time, the hugely powerful US has prevented any forward progress toward required mandatory labeling of GMO foods in international trade. Mad as Hell and Not Taking It Anymore! Last year, at the CCFL, the US proposed discontinuing any effort to reach an agreement on the labeling of GMO foods since no consensus had been reached (thanks in large part, of course, to the US). That would have meant that there were no international standards to which any biotech-importing country's products could be held and developing countries, without laboratory capacity to check food, would have no way of knowing what their people were getting. Norway, which has a strict non GMO policy, was not happy with that idea and proposed a Working Group to meet in Oslo early in 2007. The Natural Solutions Foundation attended that meeting (so did a representative of Monsanto and the Biotech industry group -- AS A MEMBER OF THE US DELEGATION) at which the desire of many countries not to allow the flawed US policy to determine its food safety in this area crystallized. In the US, as you know, GMO foods undergo NO mandatory government (or 3rd party) safety testing -- NONE -- and are permitted -- unlabeled and therefore untraceable -- in the food supply by the FDA and USDA. Their industry-friendly rationale was explained at that meeting. GMO foods are presumed to be safe according to FDA's Dr. Barbara Schneeman although their safety has not been tested. FDA and independent research, she said, consistently shows that consumers would not buy GMO foods if they knew they were genetically altered. Therefore, she explained, to keep consumers from making the "wrong decision" and rejecting GMO food, the FDA prevents labeling GMO foods to protect the consumer from "false and misleading information". This US policy was accurateley characterized by the EU delegate as "weird" (I kid you not! The Supreme Court of the United States, by the way, has ruled that the FDA cannot do that when it was considering a similar case. Undeterred, it does so anyway.) A Different Menu at Chez Codex This Year! This year, however, possibly because of the Working Group's strong report, things did not turn out the way the US was expecting. Instead of dropping the whole issue, the developing countries used their massive collective strength just the way we did in controlling the FDA's attack on our health freedom. Since they rightly regard knowing whether their food is genetically modified or not, the developing countries rose up en mass to protect their rights and health. Barbados, Benin, Gabon, C'ote D'Ivoire, Mali, Switzerland, Sweden, Vanuatu, Sudan, Nepal, India, Guyana, Ghana, Thailand, France, Italy, Bulgaria, Germany, the European Union as a whole, on and on and on went to roll call of developing countries that said they wanted an international policy on this issue to protect their people. The consumer rights group (like Consumers International) supported the right to know and, over the objections -- the strenuous objections -- of the US and its GMO buddies, the collective voices of the developing world and (its allies on this issue at least) prevailed. There WILL be a working group on this issue next January in Ghana. The Natural Solutions Foundation WILL be there! And, in the meantime, we will be providing scientific and legal input to the health friendly nations to assist them in their public policy development and their laboratory capacity (a critical issue). My Food Is Killing Me! Our food is globalizing so the higher the standards for that globalized food supply, the safer every forkful of food becomes. And the cleaner and more nutritious that food supply is the more people are spared the human tragedy of preventable non communicable diseases of under nutrition here and abroad. What you eat helps determine if you will suffer and die of cancer, cardiovascular disease, stroke, diabetes, etc., according to the World Health Organization. What's killing most of us in the developed world? Once you take out properly used prescription drugs (the leading killer of people in the developed world*), food related diseases are killing us. Add to that the diseases of immune suppression which develop when nutritional levels are inadequate and you have a perfect recipe for global disaster. Codex has, in our opinion, been cooking up exactly just such a disaster since its inception in 1952 by the former head of the German industrial war machine, IG Farben and its first committee meetings in 1963. The recipe for disaster is definitely being spoiled by the health friendly chefs who raised their voices collectively at Codex in precisely the same thrust that voters did in the US over this last month. My compliments to the Freedom Chef! Next the Natural Solutions Foundation is off to the Open International University of Complimentary Medicine in Santa Fe to share the good word: we, collectively, ARE powerful and our voices DO make a difference! Thanks for your freedom shouts! Yours in health and freedom, Dr. Rima Rima E. Laibow, MD Medical Director Natural Solutions Foundation www.HealthFreedomUSA.org PS: Have you considered making a recurring tax deductible donation (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=189) to the Natural Solutions Foundation? Monthly donations of as little as $10 per month allows us to predict our income and budget accordingly. Just as your voices are strong collectively, your donations are, too! Health Freedom isn't free and your help is a critical element in allowing us to keep on keeping on! Thanks, Dr. Rima * Death by Medicine: http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_01.htm
The woman in that video is full of shit ! She ridiculously claims that Fluridation of water has no benificial effect and infact causes complacency, which I know is not actually a medical condition - and infact proves this womans a nut ! Also she is actively a liar !!! Fluridation of water was not first used in a gulag, or a concentration camp - her lies to push forward an argument merely bring the good work that others are doing into disrepute - This is nothing more than another cheap trick to fuck any hope for cohesive pharmaceutical industry standards in the world (14:24) on the video This woman is another fucking idiot that lies to push a point ! If her point is any good - why lie - because theres big money behind her argument - nothing at all to do with fact- its cash Her industry is so called "homeopathy" alternative medicine - placebos ha ha ha - not all that scientific is it?? according to her - every email fax and phonecall counts for 13000 signatures on a petition in congress - so 23077 people would actually persuade congress that 300 million (300 million divided by 13000 is 23077) the whole population, man woman and chile was behind them, - HA HA HA UTTER CRAP !!! why lie ????? (33:50 on the video) theres a lot more but one lie is enough two is ridiculous LIARS - and once someone lies I dont care what their argumen or whos side - they are Liars not worthy of support -
In this country there is such a thing as a free market. Why shouldn't this be so in regards to alternative health care? As long as an herbal (or otherwise) remedy is marked with a "this product has not been approved by the FDA" label, it should be fine for sale anywhere. The day that an alternative medicine has to be approved by some mega corporation, just to get to the shelves, is a sad, sad day for this country. To really simplify my point: these companies have too much of a vested interest in eliminating alternative medicines (competition!) from the shelves to be given any power over them. We need to break these monsters up, not give them even more power! Power has the tendency to corrupt, and these pharmaceuticals have an awful lot of power as is. Why would you EVER support them gaining even more? My advice is this: don't ever assume that these people care about the welfare of others. It's just big business. Some may, some might not, but to think these pharms have your health in mind over profit is a SERIOUS miscalculation on your part. Keep the market open, and make alternative medicine an alternative to those who desire it. What's next, pharms trying to get their hands on accupuncture? Massage therapy?! *And Sentient, I advise you to take down that picture in your sig, unless you want to project arrogance and snobbery towards both the political left (something like half the population) and the working class (look at the character in your sig, looks to me like a grotesque mockery of an "idiot" proletarian). Just for the sake of strengthening your own arguments, I think it's rubbing a lot of people the wrong way every time you post and weakening the leg you stand on. I know I find it offensive and it DID have an impact on how I viewed your first post. Just trying to make you aware.
You are such a great young man, and you state things so well. Keep it up, it makes you someone I admire. Not that it amounts to much, but your voice is strong and clear. Stay that way!
Thank you so much for the kind words Gardener, I really take them to heart. I didn't take that as a superficial compliment, believe me, it truly brings me a lot of joy especially coming from someone who's words resound with truth like yours do. In return I will tell you that a lot of people my age and younger are becoming increasingly aware about the state of the world and the need for immediate progressive action. I largely thank the internet for this, and I think it's a glimmer of hope for the future. Though there's always a darker side to everything and a serious problem to me is the growing cost of a liberal arts education and an existing contempt from the political right for people who want to pursue a degree in say philosophy, art etc.. People are beginning to lose interest in degrees that at first glance don't seem to be of immediate importance (in order words, aren't as marketable as more, shall we say, corporate friendly degrees) because of the huge price tag associated with them and the difficulty in using them to pay that price. I went to a pretty damn expensive liberal arts college and I have a mountain of debt around me and not a lot of immediately marketable skills, but I wouldn't go back in time and change a thing. That education planted seeds of awareness in me that are really starting to bloom now, a full year after graduating. Though, I'm really stuck in regards to how I'll find a way to pay it all off, and its an nagging issue that weighs on me. I do see a way out. I really want to develop my writing and explore other art mediums and eventually find a platform to speak from, to reach a great deal of people from a multitude of backgrounds and reveal truth, beauty, and hope because it's everywhere calling for us. And yeah, I do even make some money for myself (I don't desire a lot, just to be unburdened by debt and afford basic needs and an internet connection) because I need it to live and hold some power in this capitalist society I'm in. I believe in myself and my values and when someone makes a comment like yours it gives me strength to keep going and pursue this life of mine, and not settle for a place as a stifled (but well paid) cog in a soulless, mindless machine that strives for the status quo. You know sometimes I just think: thousands of years of history and misery and foolish ad infinitum failures and mistakes. Now, in the present, we have the power to break free of all that baggage and dogma. We can really be free! That's my core belief, true freedom of the human soul, freedom to pursue a noble and compassionate existence, elevated above the base cruelties of basic animal nature. We've had this power for for awhile now, and the 60's seemed like a turning point for the better but let's not dwell on the Nixon's and Reagan's who followed because the fields of potential are never more plentiful than in the realm of the present. We need to learn from the past but never dwell there, as this is where we live and where all action takes place. Now. End rant, but thanks you again Gardener. That comment really brightened my day and I hope my vision (it's stronger and more alive than the fading memory of a dream, clearer too!) of hope does the same for yours.