Dimming the effects of amphetamines

Basically I want to be able to stop the effects of Adderall that I take. I occassionally take 2-3 of the XR version for a fantastic day, but even when I take them at 7AM, I'm still up and coming down simultaneously in the late hours of the night, sometimes even into the morning hours. This makes it impossible to sleep.

I realize Xanax is great for this purpose, as is a certain anti psychotic I remember reading about, but neither of these are available to me. Could Doxylamine succinate work? Or maybe Benadryl to help with drowsiness? It's not really necessary, as I can go to sleep ok if I lay down for awhile, but I'd like to be able to 'calm it down' after awhile. So to speak.

Thanks a ton in advance.

 

I say try the benadryl. Maybe 100mg.

 

If i cant find any benzos (just about any of them will do) then i resort to a beer and pot combo to take the edge off . . .

 

ya benzos

off topic: when i had 10 shots of vodka and 3 or 4 bowls, i was so fucked i couldnt feel shit at all, like not even exagerating lol it was sick

 

isnt Doxylamine succinate the same thing as benadryl?

 

benadryl is diphanhydromine or something like that, dont wanna look up spelling :/

 

diphenhydramine hydrochloride

 

I would go with Tylenol Simply Sleep tablets, i take em all the time to sleep, they knock you flat on your ass and put you to bed within a half hour.

Its pure diphenhydramine with no additives...im pretty sure benadry has other shit in it besides the sleep aid. Simply Sleep is the same as tylenol PMs without the acetomitifn (butchered spelling)

 

Swith to regular Adderall.

Zyprexia and Risperidal work great but last too long...you won't get any affect from Addy the next day or two.

Benzos are good, xanax, halcion preferred. But even longer lasting ones like klonopin are okay.

GHB, 1,4 butanediol.

Alcohol-setting your self up for a bad habit...can work in a pinch.

diphenhydramine - personally I hate that crap....wake up all groggy and addy will not bring me out of it.

trazadone -okay, might need a beer with it, and might get a little hangover the next day--not as bad as dph in my opinion.

 

Nah. Benadryl and Tylenol Simply Sleep are the exact same thing, each containing only 25mg of diphenhydramine hcl and nothing else.

 

cool, i didnt no that.

If you take like 6 or 7 of the simply sleeps (and try to stay awake) shit gets really weird. You hear voices and fragments of songs in your head and get really strange visuals...its a total deleriated state. But you pass out after like 5 minutes...your dreams are crazzzyyy though. Im tempted to take some adderall and eat like 10 of em...haha

 

Shit dude, I've taken 31 of them(775mg of diphenhydramine) on multiple occasions, and it's fukt up.

 

hahahaha oh my lord dude...

i bow to thee

thats fucking gnarly....the Erowid reports on Benetrippin' are quite amusing...how long does that shit last for

 

Probably about 10 hours or so, depending on how much you take. I remember seeing a giant tree growing down out of the cieling. That shit was crazy. I also saw a teddy bear get up, walk across my shelf, and start dancing. hahaha

It's crazy though. It dehydrates you severely, which is probably the most dangerous thing about it. It's not fun at all, but very interesting; especially when you finish the "trip" and realize how far over the edge you have just pushed your mind. I always refer to it as "voluntary schizophrenia".

 

adderal XR - the "XR" stands for "eXtended Release"

as has been suggested, you should instead use regular adderall.

also you didnt mention the dosage, which is pretty important.

if you can only obtain the extended release formula, get some empty gelatin capsules from an herb shop, a vitamin shop, maybe a headshop or pharmacy might have them, you can definitely get them online....but get the empty capsules, and then take the beads from within the adderall XR capsules, crush them to a powder as if you were going to snort them, put them back into a capsule form and take that. you may accidentally miss one or two beads, but thats ok. essentially this just bypasses the time release mechanism and allows you to get all the speed all at once instead of extending the action throughout the day.

one thing i should mention is that because it bypasses the extended release function, your dose should be cut down. one 10mg adderall XR would be like taking one regular 5mg pill, waiting four hours or so, and taking another 5mg pill. so at any given time, the ACTIVE dose would be roughly 5mg rather than 10mg. therefore if you normally take two of the pills your used to, you just need to take one initially.

if you want to help avoid having a "crash" you could, for instance, remove about 1/2-3/4 of the beads and crush them, take them as a pill filled with powder, but also take the remaining in tact time release beads. this way you still are taking it with a time release function, only the later dose will be substantially smaller than the initial dose, so you can wind down rather than crash when the effect wears off.

taking sedatives and stimulants simultaneously is a pretty bad idea, and so is alcohol with amphetamines. it increases the possibility of negative pharmacological complications, it seriously increases risk of polydrug dependence, and with alcohol will dehydrate you like nothing else. if you want another drug to help you calm down, your best bet is sticking with just some good, drowsy cannabis (until all the effects from the amphetamines are gone, that is)

 

Well I tried Doxylamine Succinate last night, 100mg's (2 Unisom sleep tabs) and it sucked ass. It gave me some crazy restless leg syndrome which just made it impossible to even conceive sleep. Also, the feeling I got from those was exactly identical to the feeling I get from high levels of Diphenhydramine. Absolute shit with a side of zombification. Not fun. It was only twice the recommended dose, and maybe I'll try just one tonight, but I'm fairly sure no OTC medicines are going to really help me out.

I'm on my way to obtaining IR capsules. I'm almost out of XR, so I shouldn't have this problem soon. I can't really smoke pot to help with sleep because I'm on probation. Drinking to fall asleep is just too much work for me, and is a bad habit. Drinking is for parties!

I'm aware that stimulants and depressants are a bad idea but eh. My original question was more along the lines of a drug that could stop the amphetamine reaction in my brain so I'd no longer feel the effects, not to be so sedated that I can fall asleep regardless.

 

are those the same as Tylenol PM? because if so, those actually kept me up (i tried to fight mild insomnia with them, but it made it worse)

 

as has been said before in this very thread (which at the time i'm writing this isn't even 3 pages long) tylenol simply sleep tablets are NOT the same as tylenol PM.

tylenol PM contains two drugs. acetominophen, an anti-inflamitory analgesic to help with things like pain, swelling, and fever, and also diphenhydramine to help with sleep.

tylenol simply sleep contains the same amount of diphenhydramine without any acetominophen, which is unhealthy to take when you don't need it as it's rather hard on the liver (like drinking but without getting drunk)

both products are vastly overpriced when you can get the exact same formulas in generic versions for a fraction of the price.

diphenhydramine is actually an antihistamine, and the main ingredient in benedryl. this means its good for allergies. a side effect of this drug in MOST people is pronounced sedation, but not of a recreational nature. for this reason it has also been marketed as an OTC sleep aid.

in SOME people, however, the opposite is true. it still works as an antihistamine, but does not produce drowsiness. in fact, some find it stimulating and even producing hyperactivity. the same is true with doxylamine, which is found in nyquil. these drugs are very similar. only a SMALL percentage of people are stimulated by them, but its not at all unheard of. also worth noting is that occasionally people normally knocked out by such drugs will have isolated instances of inability to sleep after taking the medication. this can be an effect of the drug itself, or the drug can simply fail to work for any number of other reasons (a good reason would be having taken amphetamines recently or washed down the pills with a cup of coffee, or just having too much on your mind)

as for the original poster....well....

drinking is a bad habit? so is taking amphetamines regularly, in doses larger than recommended, especially while on probation. there are five types of drugs looked for in standard UA tests - cannabis, barbiturates, opiates, cocaine, and AMPHETAMINES....its true that evidence of amphetamine use will leave the system quicker than that of marijuana, but if you're worried about smoking pot because youre on probation than you really dont need to be taking speed. i dont mean to sound overly critical and honestly dont care if you take these pills, but im just wanting to point out that its not very responsible or safe, and that you could still get in trouble for it. but whatever you want to do, its your choice.

that said, i know of drugs which completely eliminate the effects of opiates, and are used in emergency overdose situations. but to my knowledge no such drug exists to cope with the effects of amphetamines. your only chance is to either not take amphetamines, take them only early in the day in reasonable quantities, or to simply MASK the effects at night by taking more drugs of a different variety. depending on how much amphetamines you're taking, how recently, and what you're using to get to sleep, you're right - theres a chance that OTC pills won't work.

there are plenty of clear options for how to deal with this issue, but taking amphetamines and sedatives is neither healthy nor responsible, particularly while on probation.

 

There are drugs that can greatly help with the effects, none of which I have access to though.

And I'm also aware of the standard and extended probation drug test. I'm prescribed Adderall, which means it's legal for me to have amphetamines in my system. I'm not abusing them heavily either. It's not very common for me to dope up on it because it's just really hard on me mentally (and physically a bit). Pretty much only when I need to get a lot of things done in a short amount of time. The shit is magical, lol.

It is fun recreationally though. I enjoy the feeling I get from them as well as the hard-working motivation I get.

Ah well. It's not really that important. Of the few times I do take high doses, I've been learning to better deal with the bad effects, which aren't really that bad to begin with because XR's are so smooth in effects. It was mostly the sleep problem, but I can deal with not sleeping as well.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Gigiddy.

 

GBL - easily purchaseable online, best euphoric depressant I've ever had. Negates amphetamines, extremely powerful. The stuff will knock you out even if you're on crystal meth or LSD, more stimulants you're on the higher dose you'll need.

I've never had a single problem with the stuff, an overdose means a nap for me.