Deprogramming Christians

I think he is deprogramming a section of them.


A journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step.

-- Lao Tsu

 

lol fedupamerican you need jesus in your life

 

I have a queer feeling that Jesus is working through him, and using him as an instrument.

 

You are obviously clouded by your own biases that lead you to misread my argument. There is nothing for me to say to you.

 

true christians dont do stuff like the holocaust, drowning children etc. have you read the new testament?

 

I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.
---ADOLF HITLER

The church is certainly necessary for the people. It is a strong and conservative element.
---ADOLF HITLER



It will at any rate be my supreme task to see to it that in the newly awakened NSDAP, the adherents of both Confessions can live peacefully together side by side in order that they may take their stand in the common fight against the power which is the mortal foe of any true Christianity.



---ADOLF HITLER



Through this I am not at all defaming Jesus, whom I deeply admire, but only pointing out the neurosis of this idiot.

 

ok yeah, there are loadsa crazy christians out there. probably most of them. but i think following jesus' example wouldnt be a bad thing. but most christians dont. so your arguments pretty fair.

 

I guess for many people religion is just a mask they wear to look like "nice people", there are really few people who really follow Jesus' teachings

 

yeah

 

to tell you I am not going to talk to you.

 

yes, and those were the ones I was trying to defend on the other thread

 

I say some intense LSD and sexual therapy. They'd be free in a few days

 

And perhaps FedUP may be one of those microscopically few ' true christians.'

He is indeed a rebel like Christ.

 

The fact of the matter is Mr. Niranjan, when the vedantic texts declare "Ekam Sat Viprah Bahudha Vadanti", it does not suit you to criticize christianity, without first reflecting on how much you progressed yourself on the spiritual plane.

 

And why not. I am only criticisizing churchianity, and I have criticized aspects of hinduism as well, and other religions too , which I think is wrong and irrational.

I don't think I have to wait till I am sufficiently " progressed yourself on the spiritual plane" to criticize faults or flaws. And I am not trying to destroy christianity but to help it.




He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help.

-- Abraham Lincoln.

 

Because of "Ekam Sat Viprah Bahudha Vadanti".

 

Ekam Sat Viprah Bahudha Vadanti

Do you know the meaning of this verse. It means "Truth is one, sages express it in different ways."

But at the same time we have to use vaada or reason , to determine what the truth is , instead of blindly accepting it. Otherwise it becomes dogma , prejudice and superstition which will damage life.

Here is what Vashista has to say to Rama ...

Vasishta to Prince Rama.


Yoga Vasishta says:

Though human in origin, an exposition of truth is to be accepted; otherwise even what is regarded as divine revelation is to be rejected. Even a young boy's words are to be accepted if they are words of wisdom; else reject it like straw even if uttered by Brahma the creator."







The most formidable weapon against errors of every kind is reason.

---Thomas Paine




...to argue with a man who has renouced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead.

---Thomas Paine


Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.

---Thomas Paine




On the dogmas of religion, as distinguished from moral principles, all mankind, from the beginning of the world to this day, have been quarreling, fighting, burning and torturing one another, for abstractions unintelligible to themselves and to all others, and absolutely beyond the comprehension of the human mind.”

--Thomas Jefferson



Is religion to justify itself by the discoveries of reason, through which every other concrete science justifies itself? Are the same methods of investigation which we apply to sciences and knowledge outside, to be applied to the science of Religion ? In my opinion, this must be so, and I am also of opinion that the sooner it is done the better. If a religion is destroyed by such investigations, it was then all the time useless, unworthy superstition; and the sooner it goes the better. I am thoroughly convinced that its destruction would be the best thing that could happen. All that is dross will be taken off, no doubt, but the essential parts of religion will emerge triumphant out of this investigation. Not only will it be made scientific, as scientific, at least, as any of the conclusions of physics or chemistry, but will have greater strength, because physics or chemistry has no internal mandate to vouch for its truth, which religion has.
---Swami Vivekananda

 

We use reason to get to the truth yes, but using reason without proper understanding or tolerance is like a blind man using reason to show that the sun doesn't exist.

 

Then why don't you use reason to show the truth, and also use it to refute FedUP. That would be something constructive, instead of simply criticizing .

And I think your analogy of the blind man applies to you too.