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Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by Rasheeke, Jun 1, 2007.

  1. swazo

    swazo i am amazing.

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    so what? he is in Canada, not America.

    Charge the retarded Americans who bought from him. Hes doing his job.

    Thats like the russian site allofmp3.com. If you buy from them, its illegal, just because its legal in Russia doesent make it legal for everyone else.

    America cant go pushing their laws on other countries.

    The last thing i want is for Canada to turn in to the USA.
     
  2. swazo

    swazo i am amazing.

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    NO he wasent! He was in BC! Americans asked canadians to and raided his bookstore.

    He was not on US soil.

    How can you people think he is an idiot. Christ young_deadhead. By your logic the marjority of your government should be arrested.... wait..

     
  3. Rasheeke

    Rasheeke Member

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    HAhahaha. Funny.

    However, this isn't what I wanted this thread to turn into.

    If you're a stoner, Marc Emery is your face. He is the one pushing for our freedom more than anyone else. If you believe that he should be freed, that America shouldn't be able to get there way like this all the time, that something as wonderful as pot should be legalized, then make this phone or write that letter.

    This is a man who's done so much for us. Now it's time for us to do something for him. Let's not argue about this. Let's do something. Please. If he goes down, it's one step further from Cannabis Freedom.
     
  4. young_deadhead

    young_deadhead I Love Lucy

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    sorry i think hes and idiot, its great what hes doing but its not worth spending the rest of your life in prison

    maybe you should blame canada for having the exradite treaty. But from what ive read about it you dont have anything to worry about cause his sentencing here will be cruel and unsual.
     
  5. BudToker

    BudToker Senior Member

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    In that case he broke American law. I'll probablly call a few times but I doubt it will do much. It would be a different story if he hadn't sold to Americans.
     
  6. swazo

    swazo i am amazing.

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    what you people stop him from donating like 90% of his money to the marijuana party and charities?


    when the police raided his store they found about 10 dollars in the till.

    he never keeps any of it.


     
  7. Tommy1The1Cat

    Tommy1The1Cat Senior Member

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    that still does not give use the right to go over in another country and seize him by force, if it was murder i would understand but this is fucking bullshit. We could be spending our tax money on murders and robbers other than someone who is selling seeds
     
  8. young_deadhead

    young_deadhead I Love Lucy

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    actually the US has the right too. Canada and the US have that treaty, but im pretty sure hes locked up in canada the US just told them to arrest him. Im not a 100% sure i was reading a bunch of articles and i my have mixed some of them up.
     
  9. Shaman420

    Shaman420 Herbalist

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    He's not locked up in Canada, it is just a pain in his ass to get permission to leave his province so he spends all of his time in Vancouver, BC.

    And he is not an idiot, he is actually a very intelligent guy that made most of the really good pot enjoyed around the world accessible through his seed company (probably even some of the herb you enjoy), he also has funded tons of legalization iniatives in both the U.S. and Canada, personally heckled the US drug czar when he came to Canada, runs a pro-cannabis legalization magazine, runs www.pot.tv, is willing to help out young activists at anytime, is the head of the BC Marijuana Party and his life is dedicated to the cause.

    Cannabis Culture magazine (his magazine) not only gives this part of the drug culture a good image in the media because it tackles big issues and portrays marijuana users as more than womanizers (unlike High Times and Skunk) and lazy-ass stoners but also because it shows that the international cannabis culture has ethics on a broad range of issues and that stoners not only care about politics but they are also active and they vote. Marc Emery walks his talk which is something the U.S. government does not want to see, they do not want to see a threat to their injustice system and they do not want to see a threat to the U.S.'s financial empire (which industrial hemp clearly is-- I'd be very afraid of hemp too if I had a monopoly on agriculture or worked in the timber/petrochemical business).

    To see someone like Marc Emery not only make overgrowing the government very possible but to then donate a majority of his profits to peaceful, democratic causes in two prohibitionist countries-- he clearly sets the bar for anyone who wants cannabis to be legal.

    He is a very good guy, Michelle Rainey who is also facing extradition is an amazing woman, who is actually a medical marijuana patient (she has Chron's disease which is a horrible gastrointestinal disease) and needs cannabis so that she can simply eat and Greg Williams is another great guy from what I hear and all three of them face life in prison for selling seeds to a plant that you and I enjoy.

    Thats what it really comes down to... you would not want to goto jail for any length of time for a cannabis related offense... neither would I and neither does Marc, Greg and Michelle. We should support them even if it means making a small contribution to their lawyers (since none of them are wealthy business men or women) or picking up the phone or writing a letter. It is disappointing to me that there are aspects of the cannabis culture that are willing to turn against those who fight for your and my liberty internationally to smoke cannabis where we would like.
     
  10. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    didn't he sell some bunk ass seeds?
     
  11. gratefulvegan

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    Marc was trying to outgrow the government i think. He is a great guy- trying to overturn laws by flooding places with marijuana seeds. Its hard to believe that some of you pot heads are taking this lightly and saying "do the crime, do the time" when you have to understand that these charges are bullshit.
     
  12. sourdiesel06

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    Any one who is saying do the crime do the time is either a complete moron or just hasn't read into this case at all. The fact that the Canadian government has been referring its medical marijuana patients to his seed catalog for years with no issues makes it ridiculous for them to even consider allowing Marc Emery's extradition.
     
  13. BudToker

    BudToker Senior Member

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    exactly. Not to say they should have done it
     
  14. swazo

    swazo i am amazing.

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    this treaty allows America to arrest Canadians because they break a different countries law? I think not.

    What treaty is this? And keep in mind the world has a history of using treaties as ass wipe.
     
  15. Shaman420

    Shaman420 Herbalist

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    Yeah Swazo makes a damn good point, treaties are only followed when the dominator country is benefiting from the given treaty. In Jacksonian America, and even prior to that, the U.S. government set up a wide array of treaties with Native Americans that not only protected Natives but also alloted land and none of them to this day have been followed. If anything congress's choice to create things like the General Allotment Act or the Dawes Act distinctly show that the role Congress plays within foreign policy is simply to secure whatever the interests of the U.S. government is at varying points of time. The U.S. government has also signed peace treaties and trade agreements that U.S. foreign policy has simutaneously violated in order to secure the interests of this country's foreign policy. I personally think this issue of Marc, Michelle and Greg's extradition an example of the U.S. government deciding to do the opposite of what it has done historically because of how convenient this treaty is in subverting a peaceful threat to the U.S. justice system. So sure the treaty is there but it is not appropriate for any government to think they have any legitimacy in picking and choosing which treaties they would like to follow. Shit, the U.S. government in the past 35 years has not only established entangling alliances that the forefathers of this country warned future American politicians about but they have also and are also violating declarations of human rights as we type. Close Guantanamo and Abu Gharib and then we can talk about whether America has any moral authority in regards to making decisions about following treaties.
     
  16. Rasheeke

    Rasheeke Member

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    Have you called today?
     
  17. BudToker

    BudToker Senior Member

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    nope, I called yesterday though! :)
     
  18. swazo

    swazo i am amazing.

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    id still like to know what this supposed treaty is that allows America to criminalize us based on their own law.
     
  19. MeowMix

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    ahhhhhhhhh that makes me mad fucking american government needs to butt the fuck out of canada my friend is facing 15years in prison because she was smoking and had a gram on her
     
  20. BudToker

    BudToker Senior Member

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    Oh I don't know lol. I was just going off of what other people had said. But what they were saying is that the US can go into Canada to arrest people who broke the law in the US (which he would have done if he had sold to peeps in the US).

    Which state was that in?! The state laws I looked up can only put you in for up to a year with a misdemeanor charge for a gram.
     

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