Could the US be on the verge of disintegration?

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It seems like a crazy idea, but the fact that there are groups now established to accomplish this peacefully in the US makes me wonder if it ever could happen. I mean 13% of people in favour seems small, but it is suprisingly big in my opinion.

 

Is the US on the verge of disintegration? The answer is undoubtably YES. But I don't pay much attention to things like Vermont seceding from the US. I think that's just a lot of diversionary talk, and besides, the people really have no say in anything anyway.

The real example of the breakdown of this country lies with the stealth formation of a North American Union, which is scheduled for 2010, and will effectively erase the borders between the US, Mexico and Canada, eliminating national sovereignty as we know it. This is to be based on the European Union, and will coincide with a new centralized currency based on the Euro, called the Amero. This also ties in with the construction of a NAFTA superhighway (or NASCO corridor), which will extend from the border town of Laredo, Texas, all the way deep into Canada.

This is all being done out of the public eye, receiving mininal attention by the mainstream press, and is being conducted without Congressional oversight by an elite faction of the Council on Foreign Relations.

 

America is a mercantile empire. meaning that the extent of our territories (the fifty states and handful of possessions and protectorates) is dwarfed by the extent of our economic influence. Basically, it's a lot easier to trade with people than to kill their king and make them pay tribute.
This means that the extent of our territories is pretty irrelevant, especially now that national identies are becoming merged thanks to globalization....
all in all i think it's a good thing, moves money around, creates value, and reduces conflict. some people bemoan the loss of traditional native cultures, but i think that the traditional natives prefer the new ways.

 

There is one state in the Union that can leave anytime they wish, anyone know which one???


Seeing 13% of any major popultion to agree on something is pretty amazing this day and age.

The US was on a down hill path the day they went away from backing its funds with gold. The US is so far in debt to other countries and the peoples spend on credit attitude has weakend the US beyond repair.

 

A)13% is about the percentage of the population that is mentally retarded, really you could get 13% of any sample to agree that the earth is flat, or that god is real...
B) There is an urban legend that texas can ceceed if they choose, but that's just a myth, truth is there as stuck in as the rest of us.
C) If you think the gold standard is a good idea you need to either take an economics course or stop huffing gasoline. basing the value of our currency on only one, randomly distributed, precious metal is idiotic in our modern world.

 

i don't know about "virges", but there's no reason it couldn't happen either. not with all that "could never happen" that we HAVE seen happen over the last six years especially.

as always, i both aggree and disaggree with rat, who seems at least to be doing some thinking, as opposed to mearly hugging whatever arbitrary assumptions appeal to a majority of persons, even on hips, as in the rest of the populas elsewhere.

do i aggree or disaggree that we have no say? well "say" as such, say as in carrying signs and what we say litterally, that isn't what, where, we have the most power in, but say in the sense of the markets and incentives created de facto, by how we actually live, by the priorities we don't even realize we're living by, let alone think about, i think that, is where the first and last "say" always is.

this whole bussiness of "elites" doesn't just come into existence without a market and an opportunity for doing so. that we are not creating that knowingly, intentionally or deliberately, in no way detracts from the reality that we are creating it in fact.

our most major difference may be in the terminology with which how we describe what we are seeing, rather then what we are actually seeing of it. though there are a few differences there too. differences outnumbered, if not out signiffiganced, by similarities.

but then i can never tell. about anything other then what i perceive, and my own attempts to express it.

reality is too diverse for ANYTHING to ever be completely off the table.
just as it is to take for granted most of what WILL take place, the day after tommarrow.

it is far easier to delinieate what i would LIKE to see happen, the to attempt to keep track of ALL the forces interacting and stumbling over each other to create what actually does.

(and whatever anyone attmpts to do, is just one more force into the melle, sometimes its the one straw that tips the ballance. more often it is not).

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You don't need to worry about states succedding from the US, when the government institutes Martial Law in the next year or 2 nobody will be leaving, unless your rich or a government official.