Biblical Authority

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by TrippinBTM, Aug 31, 2004.

  1. Genesis

    Genesis Member

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    the whole red sea and sea of reeds thing came about because of a piece of volcanic rock that was found on one of the islands that are found amisdt the sea of reeds that had traveled from a volcano that errupted thousands of miles away around the same time as the crossing of the red sea by slaves.



    according to them the only possible way for the rock to travel would have been when the erruption set off a tsunami which has to travel a long time until it hits upon a shoreline. which would have explained the pulling back of the water to allow for a tsunami to regroup and hit upon a shoreline. this would have given the illusion of pulling apart allowing time for the slaves to travel from one shorline to the shorline of a closer island. the wave then would have regrouped and hurdled towards the shoreling drowning and indeed crushing all the pharos men because they were in its path


    i think the possibility of the translation being wrong gave way for scientists to prove that there was an exceedingly large possibility of it happening. their "proof" if you will and not christians "blind faith."


    if in actual fact it was a missing "e" in the translation then the logic would make sense but it would also have been a silly mistake for people to never have notcied it until now. i don't think it would make it any less of a feat though.




    anyway that was just the documentry i saw on it. i don't really know enough about translation of scriptures.


    it was an interesting documentry though.



    unlike his so called father? meaning god? i hardly think that you could speak for the good god had in mind. in fact i don't think any of us could. to attempt it would probably just be comical or silly.his an almighty spiritual being who sent jesus here to save us from religion and what the priests were doing to the faith. partially. sounded good to me. not to mention the concept of free will oh and a couple of thousand years of existance and what not. of course lets not let that stand in the way.

    but i do admit....jesus was a great guy. a pretty great guy in fact. worthy of as much respect as we can give him.
     
  2. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    Yes... but the Bible states knowledge before it was even discovered ...only the God that created the science could know that.
     
  3. The End Complete

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    I beg to differ, those goosebump books were pretty awesome.:p
     
  4. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    that was just dumb
     
  5. The End Complete

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    You don't like those goosbumps books? Look at me in the eye and say it.
     
  6. JesusDiedForU

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  7. Cosmic Butterfly

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    I think that it is pretty weak for you to say that Christianity was the only religion inspired by God. That the others have no truth, or no prophecies that have happened today. To be honest I think that you have never picked up The Vedas, Bagavhad Gita, The Quran, Torah, Native American Teachings, or anything else. God was everywhere even before your Precious Bible. Your book is not that old. Do you think that God was not on the other continents directly influencing other beautiful peoples? That these people were waiting in absolute misery? GOD WAS THERE THEY WERE INSPIRED. They felt the same love of the HIGHER BEING as you do. They expressed it differently, the message comes in differnet ways for different people/minds. To claim that they are false is ignorant and trickery of the dark force. Do you think that your almighty benevolent creator would leave the people he created in places like Polynesia, and South America alone? That they were seperate from the universal divinity? Or is it your arrogance that blinds you. You can find and love God without your bible. It is that easy.
    For example, the Dogon Tribe in Africa knew things about our Solar Systems that we are still discovering today. They knew about the twelve planets, their distance, and other amazing things that would probably blow your mind. This was a primitive culture untouched, and they claimed that GOD told them.


    Also, I think your Chariot Proof has holes in it. Perhaps boats filled with cargo were crossing the sea, and some sank during a battle or other mishap???;)
     
  8. JesusDiedForU

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    God has always been with people but it wasnt till later that moses(the torah) started to write it down. Yes some books do have prophecies that have come true(remember if its not true then it is not from God) but only the Bible 100% accuracy rate with its prophecies... that is everything up to this date has come true and the Bible is still predicting things today.

    Let me just take the red sea crossing by the chariott wheel the wheel was only used during the time of moses. Here check this out:


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    Above, left, photo taken of a gilded chariot wheel that remains on the sea floor. It was found by Ron Wyatt using a molecular frequency generator from his boat above, after he set the equipment to search for gold. The Bible said all the chariots of Egypt and 600 choice chariots, or gold veneered models, were in the army pursuing God's people. It is speculated there were 20,000 chariots destroyed that day. Above, right, is a drawing of a four spoke chariot found in an Egyptian tomb from the same time period. Four and six spoke wheels are found here in the gulf, and were only used at the same time during the 18th dynasty or 1400 BC when the exodus took place. There are numerous chariot wheels, plus human and horse bones at the crossing site.
    http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm
     
  9. Samhain

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    it depends how you interperate it.
    also I would never argue that the bible has truths in it of course it does, but its not enough for me to believe that its the only holy book and if someone is just quoting from the bible as the one and only reason to be a christian then it isn't enough, because I simply don't believe its the only truth.
    if it was so clear that it was the only truth so much that one couldn't prove other wise there would be many many more christians in the world as it would be foolish to be anything else.

    so its not enough for me for christians just to read from the bible in an attempt to get me to believe.

    S
     
  10. Samhain

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    Sorry honey in my above post I think ive simply just said what youve siad haven't I, however I think the way you put it was more beautiful

    S
     
  11. JesusDiedForU

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    In religion there is either one rite religion or they are all false. I know most people want to believe the politically correct way that all religions lead to the same place and it does not matter which one you believe... But that simply doesnt work.... I would chose the only one that had the good foundation of solid evidence(fulfilled prophecies, archaeologic proof and scientific proof.. http://r-campbell34.tripod/proof ) so I know for sure my faith is not blind.... What other religious text has all the predictions come true up to this date?
     
  12. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    Sure it works. You just have to realize that, once you strip away cultural symbolism and get down to the true mystical elements, they're all talking about the same thing. Put a Christian, an Muslim, and a Hindu together and they'll have much more to agree upon than to disagree upon. At least if they can keep in mind each culture and time period will describe God in a different way, through their own familiar metaphors.

    Do you really think an omnipresent God would only reveal himself to SOME of his creation, leaving the rest of humanity cut off?
     
  13. Samhain

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    you and cosmic butterfly have so many intelligent and thought provocking things to say I think everyone else in here has a lot they can learn from your open mindedness

    S
     
  14. JesusDiedForU

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    "I am the way the truth the life"-Jesus If you say that all gods are the same but people give them different names and Jesus says He is the only God then someone is lying



    Jesus said, "Go into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." Mark 16:15

    Leaving the rest of humanity cut off.... What do you think missionaries are for??

    You think that christianity is just for America?
     
  15. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    So God left most of humanity (except for the Jews) to suffer alone, without him, and then go to hell (for worshipping the wrong gods) until the coming of Jesus only 2000 years ago?

    How about all those people living in the Far East, who didn't recieve Christianity for many centuries after Jesus?

    Did God leave the Native Americans cut off from him, left to suffer in isolation and, apparently, eventual Hell, until the glorious coming of the Europeans in the 1500s? And the way they killed and ruined the lives of the indians, that was helpful?

    And all those poor cut off Australians, waiting until the 1700s to be saved?

    If this is true, it is clear your god hates the vast majority of humans. Your god is an elitist, no better than the KKK.
     
  16. Jozak

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    What's funny about all those eacly fundementalists is the fact they think the Bible Alone, aka..."Sola Scriptura" is the sole authority, when it is not. The doctrine of "Sola Scriptura" is not even biblical. Authority comes, yes from the bible, but also tradition and the Church as well.
     
  17. campbell34

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    It was Jesus who spoke about the vain and empty traditions of men. Only the weak minded would follow tradition over scripture.
     
  18. campbell34

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    Very simply,only the bible records history before it happens. Where as other religions donot have verifiable prophecy. And it you say they do, please list them for me.
     
  19. Jozak

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    He spoke of empty Jewish traditions of men, not Christian ones. They did not come about until after the death of Christ, how could he have condemned it when it did not exsist? Only a weak minded person would be uneducated enough to actually think "Sola Scriptura" is in the bible.
     
  20. campbell34

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    I'm sorry but Christ message was for the entire world not just the jews. And Christ was well aware of the future empty traditions of men because He is God. I could care less about your "Sola Scriptura" which I did not comment on.

    Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    Did you read that first part. "lest any man" not just Jews.
     
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