mushroom users: ever encounter the "entity"?

Terence McKenna talks about an entity that he encounters on high doses of mushrooms (5g or more). It's like a "mushroom goddess" that can be soothing and nurturing like a mother, or vicious and fierce like a tyrant. I was just wondering if anyone's had this encounter.

 

mmm is there any reference to its "appearance" or "form" ?
I remember a guide... changed my whole life although our talk was cut abruptly and I couldn't decipher his words.
It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life. I still look for a second meeting with him, someday. I'm hopeful he shall visit me again.

 

a friend of mine encountered what you may be referring to as the "entity", according to him it was a young girl in the forest.

 

How many of you here have heard of McKenna's reported experience with the "entity"?

 

I haven't heard before you mentioned it.
well, the 'entity' in my experience was in the form of a gigantic, jewel-clad and beautiful snail. unusual guise I guess,
yet was very powerful...

 

No idea what you're talking about, but I took a high dose of mushrooms a few months ago and got answers to a test from the "Mushroom Overlord"..

 

Ha Ha! Did the answers work?

 

i've had a personal interaction with the salvia goddess, as well as witnessed angels and all manner of otherworldly things....

but with mushrooms? no.

i get next to no visuals or anything really "out there" with normal (for me) doses of mushrooms....normal for me being 3-6g dried.

of course i'm talking psilocybe cubensis, and there ARE much stronger mushrooms out there, which mckenna may likely have preferred while still in the body he inhabited when known as terrence mckenna....


but then i'm a hardhead when it comes to stuff like that. have always been....its a matter of nature, i think. of course i'm waiting on some mushrooms to come around....right now i have a mycobag (my first time with a "kit" of sorts) that is somewhere around 20% colonized. hopefully i'll get something to show for it before too many more weeks.

i intend to have a good 40g dose (wet weight!) to begin with to test the potency before going for the gusto, as i've never used whole grains before, but i am anxious to finally getting around to trying a 70g (wet!) dose, which is pretty much the equivalent of a quarter, which will be the largest dose i've taken to date. it kind of strikes me as odd that i've never taken a full quarter before, even when i used to trip often and grew all the time.

oh well....i've come to believe tripping is most productive when done infrequently but with strong doses. i'm positively excited by the prospect of taking a high dose of better quality mushrooms than i'm used to! hopefully it will be one of those trips where you are so overwhelmed you must simply lay down with your eyes closed and just endure the experience....

i'm not simply after a recreational experience anymore.

 

Nesta, everybody is different.
I get visuals so profound and overwhelming that Im left to lay still and silent while they blow through me at doses as low as 3 grams.
While some of my friends simply get high.
I dont know about an entity, but I have seen God on mushrooms, connected with Universal Conciousness, and discovered that the whole of the physical universe is a vibration of the syllabyl OM

 

yes i know everyone is different and i am not unhappy with my lot.

i am not at all very prone to OEVs on most substances, and visuals are rarely the reason i trip. i trip more for new perspective, a sense of childlike awe and wonder, and the feeling of renewal and rebirth that accompanies all of my trips. i've tripped somewhere in the ballpark of 100 times, and have almost always had a pleasant and enriching experience, or failing an enriching experience at least a fun experience.

however, the experiences i've had with salvia (the benevolent ones, anyway), DPT, higher doses of 2C-E and mushrooms, and so on, have led me to believe that more profound experiences are generally of a much more spiritual nature for me than simply eating an eighth of mushrooms and sitting around smoking pot and watching yellow submarine or fraggle rock basically i want to TRIP, whether i get strong OEVs or not......anyway, i'm pretty happy with the way mushrooms affect me personally, because it gives me a wider range of experiences to engage in, and since i am able to provide myself with my own homegrown mushrooms (and usually do when i want to trip) i can alter the dosage depending on what i want to happen to my consciousness with virtually no cost to my bank account. i dont know how anyone can afford to BUY mushrooms and don't know why anyone would! for the price of a quarter ounce of mushrooms, anyone who can follow a recipe can provide themselves with several ounces of mushrooms. it still costs money, but you save far, far more than you spend.

 

nesta,


I can relate to your interest in exploring psychedelics. I like to enrich my life with new, bizzar, and sometimes scary experiences. It's somewhat of a spiritual practice with me - although it's not a full time job or anything, I would say I take it rather seriously and I'm doing more than just looking for a head buzz. This is why I'm interested in meeting the "entity", whether it's real or just in my head. For me, it doesn't matter. What matters is having the experience, because I now realize from years of drug experiences, that when you're having them, the question of whether it's real or not seems to make no difference to what it's like.

I'm always afraid of doing too much though and having a bad trip. I heard the entity is usually very warm and soothing but that once in a while, she becomes vicious and mean. In the latter cases, it usually follows when the tripper refuses to accept her. It would be interesting to ask question of her, questions that could actually be tested to see whether she was just in my mind or had some independent existence from me. But I'm afraid she might take that offensively and throw some terrible experiences my way.

 

i can't give any real advice, honestly, as i haven't encountered anything of this caliber merely with psilocybian mushrooms. if you seriously wish to pursue an encounter with entities from psychedelic realms and wish for this type of interaction, there are a few options, though. one thing is to consider using an MAO inhibitor with your mushrooms. this makes it far more like ayahuasca brews, substituting psilocybin and psilocin for the vast majority of DMT (though DMT has been found in very small quantities in mushrooms, it is orally inactive without an MAOi, and as such offers no influence over a normal mushroom trip....but between the now orally active but tiny dose of DMT along with the harmala/harmaline of yage or syrian rue, the mushroom experience will be far different as well as far stronger and more visionary)

mushrooms with syrian rue has often been suggested as a very good ayahuasca analogue, and is one i am anxious to try someday.

another bet is to make real ayahuasca, or a more authentic analogue of it.

yet another is to educate yourself in the basics of chemistry, and learn to extract reasonably concentrated, if not entirely pure, DMT from plant sources. this can be smoked for a MUCH more profound but also shorter lasting experience. this is beneficial because it not only significantly increases the force of the trip, it very significantly shortens it, too.

if you're in on the RC scene (i'm long since out of the loop, unfortunately, but would love some legit sources of some interesting items) then i would recommend DPT, a very close relative of DMT with very similar, yet very distinct and odd, effects. its among the group of psychedelics i would consider the "holiest of the holy"

having a bad trip is relative. i've tripped dozens of times and had a few difficult experiences, but none of them were "bad trips"

your mindset and fears have a vast impact on your psychedelic experiences. remember that psychedelic essentially means "mind manifesting"

its all in your head

be careful and good luck...these are what few ideas i have on the matter

i'm anxious for my next trip. perhaps i'll skip the calibrating dose (i've never been unable to handle mushrooms before, or almost any other psychedelic) and just go for the big one as soon as the mushrooms are available. i'm anxious to have another fully psychedelic experience. as many trips as i've taken, fully 100% psychedelic experiences have been few and far between...perhaps theres just no sense mucking about in puddles right now when what i really want is to dive headfirst into the deeper waters...