when its not art...

Discussion in 'Member Photos' started by retrofishie, Sep 1, 2004.

  1. retrofishie

    retrofishie Senior Member

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    whats the difference between untastefull pictures and art?
     
  2. lyla

    lyla Member

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    i'd say the intention. If something is made for money or shock value or love or anything, it often shows in the end result.
     
  3. malina

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    beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. one mans junk is another mans treasure.. i think these sayings can apply to art too... but... for me personally, it depends on how much insight and effort was put into something as well as what it portrays to me as i look at it.. if i cant make sense out of it or it doesnt make me feel something .. it is not art for me.. but that doesnt mean its not art at all. i dont look at a bunch of scribbles and say...ooh thats art automatically.. it just depends on what i see in it. sometimes i appreciate art better when i learn more about what the artist meant or the life of the artist... and sometimes i just look at something and thats all i need to feel it is art. other times its just the opposite.
     
  4. retrofishie

    retrofishie Senior Member

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    well i love the top picture. i'm so proud of it, i think that i turned out really well and beautiful.
     
  5. zeepaardje

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    is it art already when pressing one button in photoshop?
     
  6. AXIS

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    Define ART. I had a lot of photos that i put to SHIT folder, and friend said that
    i could open my own gallery with that photos. I still think that they belong in SHIT. It's amazing how many shit is called ART these days...
     
  7. openmind

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    TOP PICTURE IS A TOP PICTURE NO DOUBT
     
  8. AXIS

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    Third one. No doubt...
     
  9. zeepaardje

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    that's what i think. i gues there are two ways of art:

    1) things that really are arty, that only few people can do. like painting a really lovely picture and not only a red heart and a green background ;)

    2) things that have a special background. i am attending a photography class and we had the task to travel by tram and take a foto exactly every 30 minutes, no matter what we can see. so those pictures itself are just rubbish but the intention makes them art. weird!


    there's a third way: people declaring things for art just because they haven't got a clue what they're talking about ;)



    it's definitely not art to do stuff everybody is doing, is it?



    Joseph Beuys: "Everybody is an artist."
     
  10. AXIS

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    Art is something that will please your senses. Or destroy them...
     
  11. zeepaardje

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    sun shining on your face = art?

    violence = art?
     
  12. AXIS

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    What i ment is to please them inside(make you think different) or destroy them(make you don't wanna think at all). That's what i'm thinking. And you?
     
  13. zeepaardje

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    it's probably hard to define art. when i read your last post i thought ok, that's fine. art has to touch you somehow - but that do many things, don't they? so that can't be all. and when i see picture of a famous artist that i simply don't like coz it doesn't touch me or anything - is it not art then? :confused: hmmm...
     
  14. Fractual_

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    whatever it is i like it!!!
     
  15. DreamWeaver1099

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    I like 3, number 1 is too museumish...
     
  16. retrofishie

    retrofishie Senior Member

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    museumish?! lol. what do you mean?
     
  17. DreamWeaver1099

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    Meaning its old out dated form of art that everyone is trying to recreate and make big again, I like the new age style art, I think the old is best left alone otherwise it doesn't carry the same value and is made and reproduced again and again until its worthless.
     
  18. retrofishie

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    ok. i don't agree but hey, that's what its all about. i wasn't trying to recreate anything, i was just having fun.
     
  19. DreamWeaver1099

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    I never said you were doing anything, I just gave my reason for not liking the style of the picture, you brought art into the subject.

















































    -Sober today, can ya tell?
     
  20. Maes

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    I would define performing arts as "expressing something with the principles you have set beforehand"

    Now those principles differ from time to time. Van Gogh, wasnt considered as an artist. I think any form of expressing yourself should be considered arts.This means there are zillions of "bad art" examples (pet shop boys,madonna or just shouting around) and less "good art" examples (Für Elise, Verdi, Dali and etc). The thing is after all, the distinction is done by the people. If after all people(s) think, that one particular piece of art is worth remembering, then it may eventually become a classic. In that sense, I dont want to draw borders to arts but maybe one can say that, people tend to stick with the artistic works which they can radically find something of themselves in it: a memory, a thought, a feeling or just anything that adds to their feelings which constitute thoughts.

    This brings us to the broader sense of arts again for every object, as goethe also says, somehow manipulates our feelings, thoughts and thinkings.
     
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