I barely made it through grade 10. In grade 11, I gave up. School is not something I want to do. Part of me likes to think I'm stickin' it to the man, but part of me thinks I'm just lazy and can't do the work that comes with being "Normal". Stickin' it or not, I've been thinking about where my future lies... I'm 17, and I live in my mothers house free of charge. I work part time at a grocery store, and I certainly do not make enough to support myself. My mom thinks I'm going to go back to school and everything will be peachy, but I really have no plan to pass (I'm going to "Try" just to make her and my relatives happy). Eventually, my mom's going to get fed up with me and make me pay to live in her house, or boot me out. My question: With no plan of going back to school, and no wish to live on the city streets, is there another option besides suicide? What are my options, if any? Thanks for reading, - Kami
damn man - you have the rest of your life ahead of you and you throw in the towel at 17. sure it is that no one can save you from yourself - you make your choice ...and reap the consequences You know ...any time you wish to change - you are the only ingredient necessary - for it starts within you If you are not willing to try ? ..... Go on a vision quest - take some time when you decide you have it... sigh....and go alone out into nature - take some water and sit with nature for several days to a couple of weeks ...and come back and tell us how you have changed Blessings along the Way - the lessons we learn Namaste
Well, suicide is certainly not an option. If you like to travel and be on the road check out this thread, if you're interested just post saying you're interested and then you can contact either Drew(blinkin), me(Angela aka x_wax_x), or Kimberly(ladybirdhawk). You can always email me/add me to msn at angela.linares@hotmail.com. So read that thread, if you're interested, you're more than welcome.
Dropping out of high school is not the end of the world. Most self made milionaires are high school drop outs. A lot of college educated people are unemployed cause they think they deserve better, but there is no work. Albert Einstein had no education, he just became the most respected scientist of our time. Education does not equall success, it has nothing to do with that. Dont give up cause you dropped out of high school, it might lead you to success. You might have done the right chooice, school isnt for evereybody. I know people that have gone to universeties, have a nice education. But there is no work, and they refuse to take bad jobs. I know of a guy that is a drop out that started a internet comunity some years back, it has grown and he sold it for almost 10 milion US dollars!!! A lot of companies start to use better tactics. They hire people that are social and good at persuation, they want to sell a lot and make a profit. The companies dont care about your education, they care about how mch youre selling. So dude, you dropped out of school, You think it is a wrong decision? And dont listen to your mother, she grew up in a diffrent world, a world where the fathers income was enough for a family. So stop crying and start living!
That is NOT true. Also NOT true. Einstein graduated from ETH Zürich, often called Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, is a science and technology university in the city of Zürich, Switzerland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETH_Zürich No, the "Man" doesn't care... you're sticking it to yourself by limiting your future possibilities. Stay on your current course & you better get use to it. Peace, poor_old_dad
one thing i always notice about people who say it is fine to drop out of school... they are usually very young or they dropped out themselves. i am not the kind of person to tell others what to do... everyone's situation is very different. i will say that both of my parents dropped out and they have always wished they hadn't. on the other hand i have several very smart friends who just couldn't take school and got a GED instead. one went on to college and was much happier there than in high school. as far as suicide goes... you have not even lived 1/4 of your life. you can never know what will happen to you. even a few years from now you may find that you have a great life. at the very least, if you can not take it anymore, try something else. suicide is not the answer.
That is very true I was talking about high school Yes that is true, and only people that never succeeded tells you to stay in school. suceeding is when you make a milion dollar a year. Some of Americas richests that had no education. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford#Early_years Another one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie --------------------------------- Why do I give these examples? Cause to show that dropping out of school can be the best thing for this guy. Henry Ford took a shitty mechanics job and later made the Ford Cars and became wealtyh. Carnegie became a poor steel worker, then he became the owner of US Steel one o the most powerfull companies in the world. Im not encoureging anyone to drop out, all I am saying is that it can be the best thing some time. And college does not mean success, we can all agree on that, you havent succeeded in life If you cant even buy your dream home or car et c.
while I'm not sure WHY this is in communal living, I can tell you that in today's world (not the days of the industrial revolution/Ford/Carnegie when eighth grade was considered advanced schooling) no high school is extremely limiting in what you can do. A simple HS diploma is often seen as not enough. Most visual artists making a living have BFAs or Masters of Fine Arts degrees. In a world where you will not work for the same employer (allowing you advancement and pensions) for more than five years on average, that piece of paper is going to open lots of doors. I dropped out of high school. I did attend university.
It was a lot harder in those days, for example you had to come from a good family. It was even harder for girls, they could basicly become teachers, nurses or secretarys. Its easy to say it was better in the old days, evereyone says it. but it wasnt, life was a lot harder. And im not talking about just getting a job, Im talking about succeeding in life, (being able to buy what you want).
I'd love to know a better place. : s Thank you all for your replies so far. I was pretty furious when I wrote my original post, hence, foolishly talking about suicide. I think my goal is to bum around with relatives while working as much as I can. Then when I am of age, I'll try for a GED.
I would really encourage you to get your GED. I am not sure of how difficult it is, but I think not very. I am seventeen, too, but I was lucky because I had the option to go to college and get high school credit and college credit at the same time. I never have to set foot on the high school campus. But I was fucking miserable there, so I think I can relate. Get your GED, start saving up some money, and see how college treats you. If not, you better be a fucking artistic prodigey, or become one. Or you could become a migrant worker, if you don't mind picking fruit. I suppose there are communes (regular and traveling) that you could look into, if you don't mind some work. Anyway, you have plenty of options. You just have to find out what you are willing to do. This world has a lot to offer, and you shouldn't leave it just yet. hang in there and peace
Your life is definatly not over and you can still go far. What is school anyways but a training facility to teach you to bow to authority, do meaningless shit work, and to limit your creativity. Get that GED then start looking for your calling. Maybe you were born to do arts and crafts or start your own seal clubbing business. You can still go far. "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." -- Mark Twain
Well I'm kinda going through the same situation as you. I never made it through 10th grade, after dropping out twice and trying homebound schooling and dropping that too, I decided to quit. I'm 17 also and work only about 30 hours a week making minimum wage, not enough to support the average American... All I can say is, it's not the end of the world unless you look at it that way. Many others will because society's ideals are thinking for them. It may be hard at times, it may seem liek the end at times, but don't give up completely. I was homeless after my parents told me I was going nowhere with my life and to get out until a friend took me in. I survived. Ate once every couple days, but I survived. Get enrolled in some GED classes, take the test, pass, find a job that may pay a little better or something. I have my life planned out pretty much. I'm not that materialistic compared to most people my age, I plan on traveling and staying at hostels across the country, possible looking into working at Lake Tahoe next year. Hope all goes well and keep your head up. There's more to learn that what a classroom will ever teach you, and those are the most important lessons you will ever learn in life. Feel free to send a PM
I dropped out of high school when I was 16, and still made it into colleges but dropped out of them to. School just isnt for most people its only a sense of conformity I mean most everyone all they do is get a job after high school or college and work their lives away. Id look at this as a chance to do something you really want to do, you may never get another one. I know you have a lot of time on your hands right now so the hardest part is finding something you truly want that makes you happy. I discovered photography, writing, painting all of that. Now I have a full color/bw darkroom lots of prints to many cameras and Im only 19, but show me a 19 year old with a full darkroom in this color in this digital age. Money is really easy to save when youre young, no bills no nothing so you can pursue anything. good luck.
Yes that is true, and only people that never succeeded tells you to stay in school. suceeding is when you make a milion dollar a year. And college does not mean success, we can all agree on that, you havent succeeded in life If you cant even buy your dream home or car et c.[/QUOTE] ummmm....material things will never bring you happiness. and happiness is the definition of success, NOT being able to buy things. happiness is being around the people you love, and loving what you do. don't fall into corporate america's trap of making you think that you need "stuff" to be happy. you don't. you will lead an absolutely fruitless, meaningless existence if you spend your life chasing the dollar. would you be happier laboring many hours at a stressful job, then coming home to the brand new house in the brand new car to find it empty, or worse, filled with a family who's emotionally distant because you neglect them to raise money to buy more expensive shit, with a chef preparing filet mignon? or would you rather work a few hours at an ok job, then walk/catch the bus or drive the shitty car/moped/bike home to a shitty house to meet your partner, whom you love and have time to build a great relationship with, and maybe children who's lives you get to actively participate in? maybe a few pets? i'd be happier going home to the latter scenario and eating some rice and beans. don't lose yourself in the rat race, brother. realize that love and nature are where its at. peace. SARA
While you all make good points...keep this in mind. Those who are educated and or succesful...retire around 55-65 years old. The rest of you will work until the day you die. And all because you didn;t want to put in the work in school and or your professional lives (or lack there of). So who ends up with more freedom?
Hmmm. I just dropped out of high school to get a GED now the teacher is saying she can get me a fulll scolarship to a technical school if I get a dpiloma...
Who wants to be free when they are 55-60? You normally don't have much dreams left when you are 50 or so (the dreams have since long been crushed by your boss). I dropped out.. twice.. I've worked and earned pretty good money on a technical support line for a major sky tv company. It really sucks. And I really don't wanna go back there. I was honestly earning TOO much money.. So I just spent money on food and my apartment, and i cut my working hours to 10 hours a week. I had loads of free time to do and pursue what I want to do (paint, make music and hand crafts). I'm hopping to eventually make my money from that. Who knows? ^^ Anyway, I would say that if you feel like you are wasting time, just re-evaluate what you actually are doing. Don't live for a future that never comes.
So manty weighing in here...and all have their own piece to say...and you know what they are all right - for their own Selfs. You can be and do anything...iffn you want to badly enough to focus your energy on it consistently with persistence. Most do not do this - because most do not really know what it is they want. So to all of us ...maybe it's time for us to decide to want something important to just me and make it big enough that it finally consumes your life and becomes real. Want peace ? - well you CAN have it, but you can not make it so for others, because they too have free choice and choose the lessons that they need. Too many feel the NEED for suffering so that they can Grow....too bad ...hopefully sometime in the not too distant future we will be able to learn through joy and cherishing the beauty of each lesson as we embrace them with full hearts. But we can Be and do what we choose for ourSelf .... and nobody can change that, this is yours - it IS about you....don't take on other's - that is theirs; and the world choosse her own lessons; and mankind theirs...but each one of us is an individual, and while we do not live separate from the others who share our space - we can control how we feel and how we react and what we choose to do and Be. And for those who think it's not that simple...YES it is empower your Self....BE Blessed Being Namaste