Huge Spy Trove Falls into Hamas' Hands!

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by skip, Jun 17, 2007.

  1. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

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    Come on Rubin, admit it, Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but its true they do provide some social services when they aren't busy murdering civilians.
     
  2. BraveSirRubin

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    You could put a blind goat in the Hamas' place and it would provide the same services just as well.
     
  3. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

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    I doubt it. Fanatic organisations can be less corrupt and more efficient than secular ones. It doesn't make them better. A lot of communist movements were popular because they were less corrupt and brought more order than the venal, corrupt regimes they opposed. Of course they also brought tyranny and economic ruin, but people realised that later. It will probably be the same with Hamas. I don't think that many Gazans want eteranal war with Israel and an Islamic state, but on the other hand they were exasperated with Fatah.

    I suppose they also get $ from Iran and Syria which Fatah doesn't, which helps.
     
  4. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    US money obviously. It's really just a subsidy to US arms industries because Israel must buy American made arms with the billions they give the Israelis.

    US & British middle east foreign policy is all about arms dealing, oil and religion.

    Such a holy trinity.
     
  5. BraveSirRubin

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    Anyhow, on topic... rockets have kept on falling on Israel today.

    Expect an escalation.
     
  6. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    It won't take much to provoke the Israelis now.

    Ah, but is everyone sure they want to take the next step to what....?
     
  7. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    So here is the first statement from Hamas that shows Israeli Intelligence cooperating with Fatah for international espionage.

    I'm sure there are many more revelations to come...
     
  8. guy

    guy Senior Member

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    just imagine if people could be nice to each other for once. you'd think people would tire of all this shit for once. thank god all this violence has been sanctioned by god himself.
     
  9. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    So is Pakistan next on the list of terrorists? What then India? Then the only nuclear power in the area would be who????
     
  10. hip_peace

    hip_peace Senior Member

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    I KNOW YOU ARE FROM ISRAEL AND YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WANT TO PROTECT YOUR COUNTRY AND THE NAME OF IT
    WELL I AM PROTECTING MY LAND AS WELL AND BY THE WAY
    ISRAEL IS A BLESSED LAND
    SO DOES LEBANON AND PALESTINE
    IT WAS THE START OF EVERYTHING
    BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT PALESTINIANS AND OTHER ARE BEING SUICIDAL BECAUSE THEIR LAND IS BEING RAPED , THEIR CHILDREN ARE BEING KILLED IF YOU JUST SEE SOME PICTURES IF YOU JUST FREAKING SEE SOME OF THOSE BACKGROUNDS ...
     
  11. BraveSirRubin

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    WTF?
     
  12. guy

    guy Senior Member

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    according to israeli history barely anyone was living in the holy land when they rocked up just over a century ago after a sabbatical of nearly a thousand years. no one likes their land and property being stolen and being cooped up in ghettoes. of all people, i would have thought the jewish people would understand this after all the things that have happened to them.

    can i tell you what the secret of success will be for palestine?

    people starting to respect each other on both sides and to renounce violence. both sides need to declare a "year zero" ,get the UN in and do everything by baby steps.
     
  13. skip

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    The jews are getting their karma back in spades. Since they've been treating the Palestinians much like they were treated over the centuries, they are just acting out a role reversal so they can learn the lessons of the oppressors - if they're smart enough that is.

    Unfortunately they are now in a vastly weaker position than ever before. Even their nuclear deterrent isn't working very well. It's hard to nuke your neighbors, no?

    I believe there is a HUGE coverup in progress as I write. The Hamas spy trove is being overlooked by the media because to publish what it contains would be a HUGE embarrassment for all parties including the CIA, MI6, Mossad, Abbas, even fuckin' Arafat's legacy will be reviled once the truth is public.

    Western media refuses to touch the story, no doubt on orders by President Dick Cheney, who insists upon complete secrecy for every ILLEGAL activity he & his PLUMBERS are engaged in.
     
  14. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Funny......Mr Cheney had no problem exposing CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson to the press ....
    Perhaps somebody should call Novak or Drudge.

    Oh on Arafats legacy.. The thief stole millions form his own people
     
  15. guy

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    maybe the americans should just carpet bomb gaza to smithereens and the israelis can say that technically they had nothing to do with it

    sounds familiar doesn't it?
     
  16. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    If they're not careful, someone's gonna turn Gaza into a radioactive parking lot.
     
  17. guy

    guy Senior Member

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    keeping your hands clean and blaming someone else an old trick

    they wouldn't nuke gaza, they want the land.

    killing the inhabitants would be good for the religious right of israel, if they could they would kill all of the original inhabitants for the cause. why else do you think they move them into ghettoes.

    it won't be too long before you see the smoke of the crematoria rising above the skyline. the end point of all these disgusting policies is the gas chambers its nothing but the "final solution" couched in other terms.

    the words over the entrance to the new gas chambers will be written in hebrew.
     
  18. Pepik

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    Israel dismantled its settlements and withdrew from Gaza to internationally recognised borders. Calling this a Nazi plot to create a genocide is really vile example of anti semetism. What more could they have done? Is it Israel's fault that Palestinians elected violent, extremist religious fundamentalists? Isnt Hamas responsible if they use their control of Gaza to launch daily rocket attacks on Israeli civilians? Is asking Hamas to recognise Israel's right to exist really such an unreasonable demand?
     
  19. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Pepik, what you and other conservatives don't get is that POOR PEOPLE vote for whomever provides them FOOD, MONEY, SERVICES, all of which Hamas does, better than Fatah ever could.

    The situation in Gaza is sooo dire, people have no choice and are often forced to support such groups without which they would surely DIE!

    By the Western power's continued boycott and withholding needed funds only made Hamas' position as well as Iran's position much stronger. Even Al-Qaeda could come in and setup unhindered because no one else has enough power to keep them out. And Al-Qaeda is better funded, so they can pay their recruits and suicide bomber families thousands.

    It's all about SURVIVING on the most basic level there. Something well off conservatives can't even IMAGINE!

    It's such ignorance that keeps this world on the edge of the abyss.
     
  20. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    and FEAR, and plenty of it.
     
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