Should I do it?

Hello everybody. I have smoked weed alot in my life, but I stopped last summer when I had a very intense panic attack. I also have depersonalizaion disorder and weed negativley affects it. I have found though it is controllable not to freak out with a small ammount. The one problem I had last summer that mad it too intense was it lasted for hours. I am VERY interested in psychedelics, but have been told not to do LSD because if it makes it worse it will last for a long time. I was wondering, a friend told me salvia only lasts 30 minutes tops and only 10 of those are tripping. Would it be safe for me to try it? Because it would only last for that short period of time so if I freaked out no big deal right? If there is anything that I should be warned about please tell me thank you.

 

Panic attacks from marijuana? The weed today is fucked! That's why I like organic pot so I know what I am smoking! Also dude, you may freak out in a good or bad way from salvia. Like other hallucinogens, salvia can bring up emotional problems and worsen them... I myself have ADHD, tourettes (but I don't swear or do random movement, I'm just weird), despression, and anxiety disorders and salvia and other hallucinogens haven't effected my problems so far... I wouldn't reccomend it if you're panicy... Sorry about that dude...

 

Well, it is the most potent hallucinagen known to man. The effects may only last a few minutes to the outside world, but many have experiences where they live an entire life as another person or live through multiple eternities in multiple realities. That's a long time to be freaked out. Weed has absolutely nothing on this plant. I certainly think it is something that everyone should experience at least once in their life so go for it, see what happens and make sure you have a good sitter.

 

Through anonther person you say? do you think this is just a psychological episode in a person that could be fixed through counselling? I think I will try it. Need more replies though :jester:

 

Hey if your freaking out from Chronic I think you should try a psycadelic. but if your gonna try one then salvia is what you should try first but try the 5x ectract and have a piece packed with some hydroponic chronic just in case you start freaking out, the chrondo will calm you down

 

Some weed freaks people the hell out for some reason... I guess cause there is a shortage of Indicia on street sales! Damn dealers!

P.S: Salvia may worsen your disorders a little bit, it's not a hallucinogen to be taken lighty. In the United States, some parents blame Salvia for the death of their child, Brett. Their kid killed himself because he was depressed, but his parents say that the Salvia made him depressed enough to do it. It's the main argument in the "Make Salvia Illegal Campaign". I would also say go with a lower extract your first time. Many people just laugh anyways, but the odd person will just freak out and scream jibberish. Do it with one friend that won't mess with your trip and in a comforatable environment for the best time. Good luck, I hope Lady Salvia is good to you.

 

salvia is a hardcore drug (idc if it's legal or illegal that doesn't change nothing!) it can make you froget who you are and make you trip. but on the flip side you can meet gods have tea with wizards, conqure castles, melt like wax become objects it's intence. The after effects is anti-depressent so i'd say go fo it. Your right lsd will kill you that is for only ppl that have nothing wrong with them. I'd suggest doing it with a friend and have no music playing and low or no light. Instrict your friend to keep you in your seat and tell him you remind you who you are and what you smoked if you are having a bad trip. I personally don't see anything when smoking slavia (and i smoke alot at a time) but my friends trip and that help them have a good trip. Don't worry you'll pass out long before you od it's physically safe but it can scar you beond all reason. lastly don't smoke it in large groupes you'll have a bad trip and proably get hurt(like a rave)

I hoped this helped. Do your research before trying anything new. Happy trips.

 

Woah, wait a minute. Salvia is in no way a "hardcore drug". Implying that salvia is a hardcore drug is lumping it in with heroin and cocaine. You'll only ever "trip out" if you have a high potency salvia, and even then the trip would only last between 5-10 minutes. Nothing will go wrong as long as you do it when someone sober that you can trust is with you in case you freak out or start to do somethin stupid. Just go into the situation with an open mind and you'll be fine.

 

salvia is pretty "hardcore"...
90% of the time i smoke 10x, and every single time ive been blown away from this reality into a new world.
After the trip is over and im back in my room, i dont know whats what and slowly start coming back to this world.
herione and cocaine are nothing like slavia.

 

Salvia isn't a hardcore drug in anyway, I agree with the guy 2 posts ago! Stop implying that it is something worse than it is... It's natural, and since it's extracted it isn't bad for you. The only thing hardcore about it is the journey. It's a joke to call it hardcore!

 

salvia is "hardcore" in its own way,
a really bad trip could fuck you up.

 

yeah salvia 25x really fucked with my head for a while. It was cool to look back on but it was a scary trip.

 

what is with people that use the fact that something is natural as a defense that it can't be bad for you?
dude, cocaine is natural too... if there were a cocaine extract, would that mean it wouldn't bad for you at all either? ever heard of natural poisons?

anyway, salvia is pretty hardcore.. considering how small an amount it takes to feel it's effects, how quickly it sets in and how intense the experience can get. seriously, you get thrown into an other world and you won't even remember where you came from.. and magically it just melts away.. can feel like hours, happens in minutes..
whenever i see someone on salvia that has a really intense trip, their expression when the effects are wearing off is priceless.. everyone just says "what the fuck" or "oh my god" over and over... "where the fuck was i" shit like that.. have you ever asked yourself that before? it's incredible man.

 

I don't think that anything natural cant be bad for you, but comparing salvia to cocaine doesn't work because salvia doesnt have any longterm negative effect that may lead to death. I guess I could have said my reply differently though.

 

yea, i mean technically salvia is still a soft drug. but i'm meaning the effects can be pretty hardcore. it really is a cool experience..

if you really want to go to a new world, get a bit drunk, then smoke a massive bowl of 20x+ salvia. it's like your drunkenness is intensified in the trip, and the visuals are ridiculous. it's as if you are a newborn, you don't just forget who you are, or who your friends are, you seriously forget what a human being is. you forget what it even is to be alive on this shit.
spirit world man haha

 

Hey guys thanks for your replies, but I am just still a bit nervous because after my marijuana panic attack I started getting depersonilation disorder, (dd)which I would have anyways and already had, but it intesnsified. Afterward I had a grueling summer and I just never want to go back there, I need to know that salvia doesnt have long term effects and will not cause depersonalization for after the trip (unlike marijuana which I recently found out is the number one cause of bringing dd to the surface)

 

So what do you all think about the DD problem

 

The few times i've used salvia I was very much depersonalized, not to the extreme of dxm, different though...useful for meditation. If you want something where you feel connected, knowing firmly where you are, then chose not salvia. Low dose psychedelics (e.g. mesc, ls, psilo) would probably okay, perhaps even therapeutic, so long as set and setting are well thought out. I'm curious as to any medications that are used for DD. Forskolin (available OTC in herbal preparations) perhaps in combination with Neurontin or a benzodiazepine may be useful...that's just a scientific guess though...I don't know what is used in medical practices.

 

I disagree, on a mass basis I think LSD is still top dog for potency and DMT for power/strength (pharmacologically speaking). On a molar basis salivorin A perhaps is the most potent. But what does it do? Hallucinogen, dissociative...thats the thing it is difficult to categorize. Technically it is a partial agonist/antagonist at Kappa receptors, and other than that little is known.

 

Ok, I have a lot of information but am yet to come to a conclusion.
If it can give depersonalized feelings are they similar to that of mine
or people with DD? And also, frames1ft when you say mesc, ls, psilio does the ls mean LSD or not? Because I just badly want to TRIP. Maybe this can be a way to get over my Depersonalization... hmmm.. getting all tripped out and having something else to ride with other than Depersonalization (unlike weed). This way, I can just go for the ride and focus on all the trippy stuff. . . . . . . .. . . What do you all think?