is it unamerican to smoke pot?

Discussion in 'Stoners Lounge' started by soaringeagle, Jun 24, 2007.

  1. Lorna

    Lorna The Magician

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    what do you mean by that exactly?
    if you dont like me personaly thats your problem not mine.

    Read the thread you post on, hack on people after.
     
  2. Lorna

    Lorna The Magician

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    Soaring eagle, thats a greate pic you've got there.. looks like you are really happy.
     
  3. TRIP TO ECLIPSE

    TRIP TO ECLIPSE Member

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    Dont you mean obey jewish law and bomb the shit out of third world countrys for oil companies.
     
  4. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    hahaha, what??
     
  5. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    Im not american.. well technically I am, but not considered myself so.
    More dominican than american... but I never consider my actions to represent me as a dominican or as an american, but as me, the person I am, I can find the source of some behaviour for cultural reasons, like what i eat, what i listen to... but do i ever not do something because is the undominican (wow that sounds weird, i think it has never been used) thing to do, or the unamerican thing to do? No.. If anything I would ask is smoking pot and unhuman thing to do? the answer is obviously no.
     
  6. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    also in law i learned something
    i know it in spanish but it was "el error comun hace la ley", it was actually latin, but i cant remember that (maybe too much pot smoking? :p) but what it means is "common error makes the law"... a society is the one that determines its own laws and that's why laws change.
     
  7. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    ^^^and once again all i can say is.... i love you :)
     
  8. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    Also I think that those kind of thoughts "it's unamerican" (btw I've only heard Americans say that.. hmm makes me wonder a lot) is just another way of creating a bigger illusion (because really there is none) of sepparation between one another.
     
  9. nirmalamaya

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    Ive never really concerned myself too much with being american or unamerican...
    I smoke pot because I like it. The law tells me not to do it..I do it anyways..I break the law.
    I dont think breaking the law makes one unamerican. hm..i dunno
     
  10. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    exactly hun, but it not only creates the illusion of us & them (american or the rest of the world) but also seperation within american society (those who blindly obey & believe all theyre told & those who think independently)
    (and btw not all americans say unamerican it tends to be the right wing christian republican way of labeling all who arent them as anti-american) it gets thrown around all too often too, you dont like baseball? thats unamerican.. you dont eat meat your unamerican.. you dont support war your unamerican..
    i think its meant to control you, the fear of being labeled unamerican (or otherwise a traitor) probably does make some weak folks behave differently, but i think for most people they'd be proud to call themselves unamerican
     
  11. Alone At Last

    Alone At Last Member

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    To jump in at the tail of a thread (not always a good thing but to stir the pot, poke the jello it can bring good results).

    The statement "common error makes the law" is very American as I have experienced. Americans are into themselves for the most part, tunnel vision - wrongs being performed that became common law (ie. riding bicycles on public sidewalks, political corruption, bombing third world countries for profit, hand guns on the streets, et al.). Lorna as far as I can understand her long "Telephone" post speaks of the gold-digger which is the essence of capitalism in a Republic (America's political structure - representation by attorneys who make the laws and benefit from the their statutes). Americans may have been "uprooted" Lorna originally but they came to the Americas for your own personal reasons, usually to gain wealth or to receive religious freedom. Who are the Americans? Truly the American Indian who has been ignored and shoved down to the bottom wrung of the totem pole. There is no American history save what Americans want to save - war stories, imperialism - history is knock down and something totally new comes in its place.

    Is smoking pot UnAmerican? In the 1960's it was by history a revolution against The Machine but today who is The Machine? Many of the pot smokers of the '60s who have turned their backs on their own thoughts and beliefs for their own personal alleged gains or small lives, ignoring their next door neighbors.

    In Spain there are no laws against guns and few have guns. We as a people have passion for our people, our history - we do not destroy the Moors as Americans destroyed the American Indian - we embrace the Moors as they are a part of our history - we maintain their buildings, adding to the history of Spain as opposed to knocking them down.

    One can not live without some money, hopefully from their own labor as opposed to a hand out - then appreciate the wind in the air, the sun in the sky, learn your heritance, smoke some pot with a new friend, have a brew with another, share tapa - eat slow, embrace life - if the original post was is Smoking Pot UnAmerican from point of view of the blinders on, selfish, I don't want to know typical American then yes it is UnAmerican but most American pot smokers are hypocrites like the vast majority of Americans so go to Amsterdam and embrace the fine city, the culture, the food but more than anything the people. America knows not what or where it is - it blows smoke up your ass and wants you to inhale it without thought, or objection --- "common error makes the law" is a damn good statement.

    Salud!
     
  12. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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  13. hippy i am

    hippy i am poppy seed bagels

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    Well said, I agree.
     
  14. campfire-fly

    campfire-fly Member

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    I run with the folk vide of Mark Twain's advice, "Loyalty to the Country Always, Loyalty to the Government when it deserves it," quoted by Ammen Hennessey via Utah Phillips.

    I believe being a revolutionist is very American and so is having an anti-establishment theme is also very American, our country was founded by people who grew marijuana and were English law breaking revolutionists.
     
  15. undercooked

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    The Spanish were the most savage and bloodthirsty of the colonial powers. How can you be sure that the Spanish didn't kill more Native Americans? The Spanish conquestidor, Cortez, is revered as one of the most ruthless explorers! Furthermore, in 1492, which was also the beginning of the destruction of the native Americans, Ferdinand and Isabela decreed the expulsion of the Jews from Spain; sure, the elements of your society that weren't as subject to the oppression of history are well preserved, but do Spaniards pay any more homage to the peril of the Jews or the dead civilizations that are a result of their history than Americans do to the plight of the Native Americans?

    Nationalism, propaganda, and unmentioned history are worldwide phenomena.
     
  16. Lorna

    Lorna The Magician

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    STFU
     
  17. dd3stp233

    dd3stp233 -=--=--=-

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    I consider it a natural human right to eat, smoke or ingest any plant/s that a person wants or needs. Laws change all the time and are different from state to state. In fact, its a 2.5 times larger fine for smoking a tobacco cigarette on a Santa Monica, CA beach then smoking a joint. Laws also have nothing necessarily to do with what is moral or ethical or right. I also don't consider the Federal Controlled Substance Act to be constitutional. Smoking marijuana has nothing do with being or not being American.
     
  18. yazzer

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    For the most part, most decent citizens obey the law.
    Smoking pot doesn't hurt anyone (except the lungs of the smoker lol and anyone who's getting the second hand carcinogens), but it's still illegal.... Wah.
    It should be unamerican to unilaterally bomb other nations. Ugh.
     
  19. asilos vulnerado

    asilos vulnerado Senior Member

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    ahhh, you took the words right out of my mouth
     
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