Brown promises Britons first refusal on jobs

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  1. England

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    I know this is from last month but it doesn't make it old news :) What do you think of it? It's GREAT! So far so good with Brown... He's appears to be a Nationalist...!
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    By Colin Brown
    Published: 06 June 2007
    Gordon Brown yesterday promised his union backers for the leadership of the Labour Party that as Prime Minister he will ensure British people get first refusal on jobs in Britain.

    His remarks were seen as a clear shift from Tony Blair's defence of cheap foreign workers as a means of boosting the British economy. Mr Blair has been accused by trade union leaders of trying to undercut British workers by opening the door to migrant workers from Eastern Europe.

    But speaking yesterday at a conference of the general workers union, the GMB, Mr Brown said: "I want to ensure that by working with employers in all sectors we can make sure that people have the skills and are given the help so that the jobs, when they come available, can go to those people in Britain who are registered and looking for jobs at the moment."

    In a further reassurance to the unions, he said he wanted to ensure that 200,000 jobs in construction, the hospitality industry and the financial services for the London Olympics also went to British workers. It follows growing concern that many of the jobs on the 2012 Olympics would go to lower paid migrant workers from Poland and other new entrants to the European Union from the former Warsaw Pact countries.

    "We are about to sign agreements for the Olympics and the construction trade so that the jobs in London go to people who are trained up here in Britain to get the jobs that are available," he said.

    "I want to extend it too to the hospitality trade, to construction and to the financial services. I want... these jobs to go to British workers with skills that are given by us to enable them to get the jobs that are available," he said.

    Mr Brown also promised that he would give priority to growing concern about crime and anti-social behaviour. "People are worried about what is happening to the British way of life."

    Mr Brown who has led calls for an assertion of "Britishness" will be backed by Communities Secretary Ruth Kelly and Immigration Minister Liam Byrne. They will call for a national day to promote a stronger sense of British identity in a pamphlet out today.

    The pamphlet, A Common Place, calls for a "vital debate" over the coming months about "how to create a fair, effective, transparent and trusted approach" to the idea of earning citizenship.

    It says next year an "Australian-style points system" for migrants outside the EU could be introduced and suggests that "earned citizenship" is a "logical next step".


    http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article2617452.ece
     
  2. Peace-Phoenix

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    I think this forum isn't the BNP messageboard and I wonder what you're doing on a hippy website....
     
  3. skimpot

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    Well its kind of bollox anyway, you can't stop other Europeans from working here, it is a right.

    I mean whats that supposed to mean, with skills that are given by us, piss off Gordon, we get the skills we practice, you don't give us anything.

    Sheesh, all about the olympics as well, cost us more than we will benefit it will, a few will get well rich off of the taxes we ordinary folk pay.

    You want more of the same, empty meaningless spin, you got it.
     
  4. Power_13

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    If it stops the resentment, I'm all for it. If I have to listen one more time to Bob Englishman whining about "those foreigners coming over here and taking our jobs", I'll strangle somebody.

    Sad thing is, it probably won't stop it.

    Oh well. I wonder if I can get off a jail sentence on insanity?
     
  5. England

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    It's not the BNP. It's the Labour party and I'm glad to see that they've become a Nationalist party. Of course Britain's can be given first refusal. Nobody can stop Brown for doing that. British jobs for British people.

    As for the skills that are given to us, the training is funded by the government so technically it is given to us by Brown.

    Well done Brown!!!
     
  6. Peace-Phoenix

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    They're not the BNP, you're the BNP member....
     
  7. skimpot

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    You are incorrect, European jobs for European people. I personally think that is right but it matters not whether you think it is good or not, it is the fact of the matter.

    You know, we the Britons voted for this kind of thing. It's called the flexible workforce. Thatcher was all for it although what a hateful cow.

    All that it takes for Brown to be stopped from doing what he wants is for a popular newspaper, that I suspect you read, to say Don't vote for Brown. The story could spin it as saying he is bad for the economy and interfering in industry which could criple our economy as the rest of Europe thrives. Or whatever, I'm just trying to say, he's not really in power, he is head manager.
     
  8. England

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    So? This article hasn't got anything to do with the BNP. It's you that's bringing up the BNP. The party I choose to vote has got nothing to do with anyone else. I have the freedom of choice.
     
  9. England

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    So giving British people first refusal on jobs is going to cripple the economy? Naaaaaaaaah. As for "European jobs for European people," you tell my employer that :) He refuses to recruit anyone that's not British. He personally feels they're not upto the job. Of course Brown has the right to do as he likes.
     
  10. skimpot

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    You miss understand me, if the SUN said it would cripple the economy, enough people would believe it to vote him out. I don't believe it.

    Central banks cripple the economy, as does a lack of energy.

    Your employer can employ who he wants, if he wanted to employ people from the mainland nobody could stop him, not even our great new leader:worthy:

    All hail
     
  11. chris69

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    seem good to me, just needs to sort out imigration control etc and i'll be a happy bunny :)
     
  12. dapablo

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    Not sure what the job is but I'd say if had an interest in the company that I'd want someone in charge who didn't use nationality or is that really race as a determiner for employment. Imho the ability to perform any task has nothing to do with where you are born but entirely on motivation and skill which can be found anywhere.
     
  13. England

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    Immigration control will be sorted. Brown is setting up a "points system" similar to Aussies where only so many immigrants can enter the country.
     
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    I don't think it is race it is nationality.

    Shocking as it is there are ''coloured'' people who hold a British passport.

    I'm not sure if 'England' is racist or just xenophobic. - he can support the BNP if he likes as long as it is Britain he holds close to his heart - not a white supremist mentality and a swastika emblazoned on his right arm.

    This to me just seems to be talking about jobs created because of the olympics and attempting to address the shortage of skilled workers in this country. That is not a bad thing.
    If it seems that the olympics has been built on the backs of ''foreigners'' the perception will be that of the nearest Sun reader - no that is not being stereotypical and unfair - it is just a fact of life.

    ''I want over the next few years two hundred thousand people in Britain, who are inactive at the moment and looking for work, who are looking for work, people who need the skills and need to get the help to get into these jobs, that these jobs will go to British workers with skills that are given by us to enable them to get the jobs that are available.

    4Friends, this is the week also of the G8 Summit. Remember two years ago how this Union led the way on Make Poverty History. Remember how at that same time you campaigned for debt relief and how you campaigned also for a rise in our overseas aid commitments so that we could provide education and health to the poorest people of this country. In the next two years there are two things that this generation which we are part of can achieve which have never been achieved by any generation before. I want us to work together in the international arena so that Britain can lead the way to ensure that these things happen. The first is that, for the first time, every child could have the chance of going to school. Today there are 80 million children round the world who are not going to school. Most of them are girls denied the basic right of education. I want us to be the generation, thanks to our efforts and Britain pushing for it, that makes sure that everyone of these children have got the chance to go to school, to get an education, to have the basic right to learn and to make the most of their talents. The second thing I want to achieve, which I believe we can do together, is this. Five million children are dying every year from diphtheria, malaria, tuberculosis and polio. These are diseases which we can cure. There is no medical reason why we could not cure these diseases. The technology is there, the science is there and the drugs are there. It is possible to have the treatments available so that we can avoid unnecessary deaths. I believe that we could be the first generation in history, if we have the political will,to use the medicine, the science and the technology so that we can eradicate some of the deadliest diseases and remove them from the world for ever more. If, friends, we could save the lives of a few children it would be worthwhile because every child is special, every child is precious and every child is unique. But just think: we could be the generation that saves not just thousands or hundreds ofthousands but the lives of millions of children who needlessly today are suffering and so many of whom will die unless we take the action that is necessary. So there are great causes left. They are causes that only our movement can address because we are the people with the values of social justice who respect the dignity ofevery individual and want to take action. I would say to this union today: have confidence that our values of social justice, belief in the dignity of every individual and fairness to all are genuinely the values of the British people.''

    Speach

    Some of the bits the BNP won't be so keen to shout about.

    I don't think Brown is nationalistic - he just wants jobs and skills for more people who don't have them.
     
  15. Peace-Phoenix

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    Course you do, I'm not saying you don't. I'm simply wondering why a fascist chooses to post on a hippy forums....
     
  16. Peace-Phoenix

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    Well considering he thinks inter-racial relationships are wrong, I'd go for the former and would question his motivations for finding Brown's proposals encouraging.

    But to get back on topic, if immigrants are more skilled in certain sectors than British citizens, it should not encourage what essentially amounts to labour market protectionism. The British workforce will simply have to compete with a global skills base. Shielding domestic labour from foreign skills will only retard our productive capacity. It makes perfect economic sense to hire the most skilled people at the cheapest rates. I don't necessarily agree that that is a good thing to do morally speaking, but it is sound economic logic. If British citizens wish to adapt to this they're going to have to stop using immigrants as a scapegoat for their problems and look closer to home. If you drop out of school with no GCSEs, then of course you're going to lose out....
     
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  18. England

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    I would say the the fact that Brown has created a "British day" and is making it the law to fly the union jack on every building and that he is giving Britons first refusal on all British jobs sounds quite Nationalistic to me. He's a breath of fresh air.



    To me it's just a forum. I must have researched something on google which was mentioned on a thread somewhere and I must have found it interesting enough to sign up. So here I am.
     
  19. skimpot

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    My god thats shocking, is it true? Do we have to be nationalistic whether we like it or not? I mean I'm quite ashamed of some of the things our government does whilst representing the interests of the country.

    This is a bad thing, he seems like a control freak to me.
     
  20. mbworkrelated

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    He has not created a ''British day'' - he said the idea might be a good one and he would back one if it got off the ground.
    He did remove the barriers so that the union jack COULD fly on public buildings for more than 18 days of the year. He is not making it a LAW.

    ''He said this could encompass "progressive" ideas of liberty, fairness and responsibility rather then right-wing beliefs.

    "Instead of the BNP using it as a symbol of racial division, the flag should be a symbol of unity and part of a modern expression of patriotism too," said the chancellor.

    "All the United Kingdom should honour it, not ignore it. We should assert that the Union flag by definition is a flag for tolerance and inclusion."

    Mr Brown said promoting integration had become even more important since the London bombings.

    "We have to be clearer now about how diverse cultures which inevitably contain differences can find the essential common purpose also without which no society can flourish," he added. ''

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4612686.stm

    The union flag is flying over Downing Street after Gordon Brown scrapped a rule saying it could be flown only on certain days of the year.
    The prime minister said it will now be up to individual public offices when they fly Britain's national flag.

    He said: "When I came into government I realised that you could only fly the flag on 18 days in the year and I thought that was wrong."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6276280.stm



    He seems to have pride in Britain and wants to foster that in others - he wants it inclusive and open to all whatever your creed or class.
    Is that what YOU want.

    I don't care if you don't like multi race partnerships - my parents did not seem to care. The law won't forbid this in my life time and more than likely it will never be forbiden
    It just seems odd that you allign yourself to a overtly racist group and claim not to be a racist.
    I did notice you said you were sick of people calling you a racist - I don't wish to lump you into that camp - maybe I need to find out a bit more about you before I throw around labels.
    The BNP want certain things to occur - what do YOU want ?.

    Well I don't want to judge 'England' before I call him something he is not.

    Absolutely they will have to compete - Brown it seems wants to make that more effective with getting more people off their asses and better training and support. That is a great idea.
    Overall i'm dubious that '' Brown promises Britons first refusal on jobs '' is what Brown actually wants ? - or is it not just 'Englands' wishful thinking ?.
     

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