Live Earth and Global Warming

Who here is doing things to save our planet?

Also, anyone watching Live Earth right now? While I don't like many of the artists performing, the cause is definitely the best in the history of our planet.

I've been watching on and off since 12:00 AM last night, and hopefully the benefits of this concert will be astronomical. Global Warming is an issued I've taken much interest in, as our planet needs to be saved.

Today I went around my apartment, writing down wattages of all the lightbulbs (including my roomates) and went out and purchased them all in CFL lightbulbs, and I have convinced my uncle to change all the bulbs in his business to CFL as well, I also picked up two cloth bags I keep in my car for when I go grocery shopping, as of right now everything in the apartment we are not using is turned off, which we will continue to do, I've cleaned the filter on my air conditoner, I've dried my clothes outside on a clothes line, which I will also continue to do during the summers, and tomorrow after work I'm going to stop by a nursery and pick up 3 small trees to plant, last but not least, I've made a 50$ to Natural Resources Defense Council.

This is only the beginning for me, I'm going to continue to reduce and offset my carbon emissions in anyway possible.

I know one person is a small, small difference, but god does it feel good to be part of the solution!

I encourage everyone here to offset/reduce your carbon emissions!

 

I know that I am gonna get a whirl of bitching at, but the Earth as gone from hot-ages, to cold-ages. I don't see global warming as a threat to anything. The only reason everyone is hearing so much about 'global warming' is because the only way scientists get funding is when someone is scarred enough to make a donation, and I bet scientists have received their fair-share on this.

 

Yeah, the world does goes through stages or heating up and cooling down but your a damn fool if you think that we won't face any problems from being so wasteful and destructive to our planet.

 

things tend to unfold as they should

 

bingooooo

 

Well, I'm with you. It's pretty myopic to think that inundating the air with carbon and other pollutants for the last two centuries won't have an effect. Luckily for me, being cheap as hell is generally environmentally friendly, because I am hellishly cheap.

In the end, though, I am indifferent, because I don't care if humanity dies off. My life is finite, so it's pretty neat and eventful that global devastation could begin within my lifetime.

 

the thing with this live earth is that it's a great cause and so forth, but the majority of the people after this concert series is over will only forget and not contribute to helping the effort any further, just like "Live8" which imo was a WAYYY bigger cause to hold the concerts, and it did raise aids awareness...but for only a short time..

Global warming is definatly a huge issue, but like wonka said, things tend to unfold the way they should, as well I know many people studying astronomy etc. and other space sciences, and most agree that yes, although global warming IS real, the Sun and all stars go through periods of highly intense sun spores or whatever they are called, which flare up and intensify UV and solar rays every once in a while, and i belive this has also been documented as to be happening currently

and..the final way I feel about global warming

What will switching to recycled bags and changing lightbulbs do when automobile manufacturers are making BIGGER cars with BIGGER motors then ever?

yes i know there are emission laws, but with dodge and ford and making their 5.4L engines and bigger their standard, and totally eliminating the 4.6L all you are doing is making larger vehicles, burning more fossil fuels, polluting the earth even furhter

Not to mention an unregulated chinese industrial sector which is the main source for this polution, yet governments who could potentially stop these industries from harming the enviroment dont because they rely so heavilly on their goods and services.

the problem is over everyones heads, not just a typical recycling good intentioned person

 

I was trying to remember the name of the concert. It was bugging the hell out of me, I was about to go turn on my DVR and watch Pink Floyd when they played. That was orgasmic, they got back together to raise AIDS awareness, good guys IMO.

 

I don't think that the problem is unsolvable, but you're right in that people aren't going to just stop being consumer sheep on their own. Obviously, the only way the public good of a habitable earth is going to be preserved is through government intervention; maybe fancy rock concerts with celebrities won't make people change their habits, but maybe they will affect public opinion enough to influence the election of greener politicians who will make it law that people change their polluting ways.

Also, the US is the largest producer of carbon emissions. Most of China's pollution is more "localized."

 

I've cleaned up a lot of litter, encouraged my friends not to litter, and the last few summers I've planted trees and flowers in quite a few parks. I recycle and clean up the East Fork Beach near me. I don't drive, I ride my bike or walk to most places I go. I've done quite a few things with an environmental group as well.

 

So, we should just stand by and watch, because the problem is "too big for us to solve?" Hey man, we haven't found a cure for cancer, so we should just quit trying huh? The only reason we would fail, is because of that attitude.

Global warming is real. There is no debate anymore. Because you can find a rogue scientist here and there who claim to have a theory accounting for global warming, does not mean they are correct. Especially when 95% of established science ON THIS PLANET, funded or un-funded, idependent or not, local or foreign, agrees that this is not only real, but also unfolding at rates astronomically higher than we had expected. To put this into persepctive, I've read an article that something like 3% of established "scientists" still dont believe cancer is real. My point, there will ALWAYS be people who say otherwise, it doesn't mean they are right. But anyways, this is all a conspiracy so scientists can get funding right?

Also, how do you know how many people are putting these various methods of offsetting/reducing carbon emissions into effect? You cant say this will have no impact and this will be forgotten, when the reality of it is that this, the biggest entertainment production in the history of this planet, has already influenced many to change their ways. The reality of it is, today, hundreds of thousands of people have likely already starting putting into effect carbon reduction/offsetting techniques, many of which are for the long run, such as light bulbs (I'm sure people wont buy CFL's once and then switch back to regular lightbulbs), and using cloth bags, unplugging appliances etc.

What will this do? Well, do you understand the term offset? Yeah, people are going to still drive huges SUV's and cars with huge engines, and switching to a green living standard will offset this.

AIDS is an epidemic. A horrible one at that. To say it is a bigger problem than a planetary crisis... are you fucking kidding? Please, tell me you are? Do you realize that this is it.... this is our planet, its all we got. We fuck this up, mankind ceases to exist. Millions of people dying, or mankind becoming extinct, and planet earth being destroyed? I'm not asking you to choose, but saying AIDS is a bigger crisis is just foolish.

China may be the biggest producer of carbon emissions, but do you realize that if they U.S. were to effectively reduce/offset our emissions, we could bring the level of CO2 in the atmosphere down SIGNIFICANTLY, like to early-industrialization periods- where it was no where NEAR as high as it is today. Not to mention countries like canada, australia, japan, brazil, hell, just about every modern country are also taking these same steps toward solving global warming. People in the U.S. aren't the only people who care about trying to solve the problem of global warming... there is a whole world out there.


The bottom line; global warming is real. It is happening FAST. To say that you dont care because you wont be alive... are you fucking kidding? Get over your goddamn lazy ass piece of shit selves, and think about our FUCKING SPECIES. For fucks sake grow up. And to say that humans dumping billions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere every year isn't harmful... haha, thats a good one. This planet WAS NOT made to sustain humans and their wasteful ways.

We must take care of it; its all we have.

 

Thats awesome man!

Glad to see some people here aren't so self-absorbed to the point where they dont care about our planet- or what happens to the people in it.

 

"almost" every living thing may die, but the planet will not be destroyed by global warming. the earth will be fine. its done this type of thin before, it knows what its doing.

 

Global warming may not, but the overcomplexity of man sure could. That's how I've always seen the Earth as going since before kindergarten.

 

...only minus the billions of tons of CO2 being dumped into the atmosphere.

And the earth wont be "fine" it will be dramatically re-shaped.

 

the earth existed before there was even oxygen in the atmosphere, it will survive with the extra CO2.... and who's to say that dramaticaly reshaping the earth is a bad thing? its been reshaped since Pangaea, its been covered in ice, it will remain.

the earth will continue to remain 1-4 billion years from now when the sun becomes 10 to 40 times hotter and turns earths surface into a barren wasteland.

 

Okay.

And this ends my conversation with the dick who dont give a fuck bout mankind

 

hey i care, i just wanted to point out the fact that we are not saving the planet, we are saving ourselves. we always misrepresent by saying "save the earth" which is just bullshit. there is nothing we can do to destroy the earth. we should be saying "save ourselves" but it just sounds a little to selfish to sell, so we would rather bullshit.... it doesn't matter how we represent it as long as something gets done about it, right? George Bush does it all the time to further his personal agenda.

 

I'm pretty sure it will be decimated completely at that point. The sun will eventually expand to somewhere around earth's orbit, I believe. I might be wrong, but either way, I'm sure that you can be way more pessimistic without overstepping.

Every star is finite, and the earth orbits a star. Life goes on, but not in the same place forever. Our existance doesn't really matter; it just exists and some day won't.

Wait, no, Jesus will save us. Sorry.

 

it really depends on where i am on how enviromental i get.. when im out in the wilderness or streamside by a trout stream i try to keep clean.. putting butts in my pockets.. not littering.. picking up litter... but inner city.. i look at it as a lost hope.. its far more likely that i can help keep something thats pure pure instead of trying to take something thats tainted and make it pure