Hair test for Upcoming job (I need information)

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  1. mortes

    mortes Senior Member

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    I haven't made a new thread in awhile, but it's because I've been skating a bit and building a car. Anyways I'm in a small pickle.

    I wanna get this job that my family has had for generations. They've all worked at CSX railroads for as long as I can remember. I figured they would drug test if I wanted to get a job, so I've cut back a bit and haven't smoked in half a week, and before that it was a week. Right now I'm not gonna smoke again for a LONG time. Oh ya and this company does randoms. [​IMG] The worst part is that they do a hair test upon employment. My heart sank when I found this out.

    Right now I'm not doing anything but quitting to help my chances. I don't have to take this test anytime soon, but I would like to take it ASAP. This job is 80k/year and I wanna hurry up and retire. I plan to not smoke for about a month and a half, cut my hair, then wait out about another month and a half and go from there. I think if I did that then I would be 100% clean for a hair test. I'm just assuming, but from my own research there is nothing you can do to pass/cheat a hair test, so I'm just gonna detox.

    I'm asking my fellow stoners if they have any information that I may have overlooked or anything that will help me pass this. I really don't want to do all of this detoxing, go to the place to get the job, and find out that I can't get it because I smoked a blunt 3 months ago. If you have anything to help just lemme know, I'll up this if/when I get the job just to let ya know that I've passed/failed. Thanks for reading this long shit, smoke one for me [​IMG] , peace.
     
  2. sourdiesel06

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  3. Born2Lose

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    Well, i was just going to say that. But Sourdiesel solved that for me.
     
  4. AncientHippie

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    Im pretty sure that no matter how much you smoke,
    if you stop for 47 days, you will be clean.
    Random drug tests suck.
    That means you need to quit smoking,
    or risk getting fired?!?!?!
    F*** CSX. I dont like them now.
     
  5. sourdiesel06

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    Remember though, if you fail for anything other than weed, you don't get your refund. I had a friend last year buy the shampoo to pass a hair test for a job and he ended up failing for coke. It worked for the weed though, so he got no money back.
     
  6. mortes

    mortes Senior Member

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    Thanks for the link to the shampoo, but there's no way I'm giving a company 50 bucks for some shampoo. I'll just not smoke for awhile.

    Yea randoms suck, I'm gonna dislike every day that I can't come home and chill with a blunt, but hey, retirement kicks ass right? I'll work here 2-3 years and never work again, and be able to take care of my brothers and friends, which is worth it to me. Plus I'm sure the day that I get tested I'll smoke. Once I find out how truely random these tests are I'll go from there.

    Anyone have RELIABLE information (with sources) to how long it takes to pass a hair test. In my research everywhere it takes 90 days. Erowid says it, and they don't bullshit.

    Thanks!
     
  7. Four Winds

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    Good call man.

    But dude... you think you're going to be able to live the rest of your life comfortably after working only 2-3 years? I doubt that man.

    Its nice to see some people making a good choice about smoking (in this case quitting)- instead of trying to work their way around it, which usually doesn't turn out good. I doubt you'll miss it much after a while, I've been on a break for a few weeks now, and I don't even really want to smoke. Its nice to see what you've been missing in your life when you sober up- and hell, sobriety can actually be pretty fun.

    As for the hair test thing, depends... if you were a chronic user (everyday) before you quit for the week, 90 days is probably about right. I know hair test has the longest detection period, and I'm sure its gonna be right around 90 days if you were smoking a lot. A week break, then toking a few days later isn't going to eliminate the THC from your body and hair.
     
  8. mortes

    mortes Senior Member

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    ok since you wonder about the 2-3 years thing I'll give you my math just so I don't sound retarded.

    I've been figuring things up just to see how easy I can make my life. Let's say I work for 3 years (that's the max I'll work at this job, period) That gives me 240k bank. Now I figure in taxes+insurance+bullshit they take out at the railroad and at most that will be 60k. (and that's really giving some leeway, 20k a year in taxes is about right though) That leaves me with 180k. Figure in apartment for 3 years comes to 22k (7.5k a year even though it only costs 5k a year, again I'm giving leeway) food for me (I don't eat a lot, dumpster food quite often, and steal what I can) costs about 1.5k a year, which is 5k after 3 years. That brings me down to 150k when I include gas. 150k a year in a 5% APY is 45k a year interest. If my yearly costs are 15-20k (again I'm giving huge leeway) I'm left with 25k extra money I can either spend, or put back to gain more interest. This will fund anything I want to do for the rest of my life.

    Tell me if I've left some oversights, but my math is right and I'm pretty sure I can make this work.
     
  9. Four Winds

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    There are FAR too many oversights man. That is very simplified, and I know it seems like it should work, but the reality is it probably wont. Figure medical expenses, a car when yours shits out, bills, etc etc. I'm also assuming you don't plan on having a family, correct? Also, what tax bracket would CSX your railroad position be in? Probably fairly high.

    If CSX has a 401k, the only way to PERHAPS make this work would be to invest a giant chunk of that total sum of money into a 401k plan, and let it build for years and years, tax deferred. But, this would be assuming you work at this job a lot longer (i.e. to retirement or close-to), otherwise you're gonna end up paying HUGE to withdraw that, which your only supposed to do so in emergency situations either way.

    If you are willing to work just 10 years of your life, you could probably make it work with ease. And 10 years aint much, I've been working for close that (8 years going on 9), albeit at shit jobs, but still it goes quick, then you're ready to live a comfortable life until your old age.
     
  10. mortes

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    You didn't tell me anything, but thanks. There are oversights? Not likely I've added more money than is necessary for every bit of expense that I have. I mean if you could tell me where I've gone wrong (other than my car breaking down), csx has 90% medical paid. I have no bills because I live simply, and finally yes the taxes are high, but all my family has worked for them, therefore I've seen the end of year paystubs and know how much I'm gonna pay.

    I'm not losing 10 years of my life to have money, nothing and I mean nothing is worth that much time to me. I've lived off of 3k for 2 years and I can do more if necessary. Money really doesn't matter as much as people make it seem.
     
  11. phenix23

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    ya man u have major oversights like clothing, family, heating, electricty, internet, phone etc. what about the nice shit, if u want to buy something that u want, and then there car insurance, car repairs and parking costs. also what if something happens to u one day and u need to go back to work, ull need safety money in the bank just in case of that (liquide assets). also i dont know how u plan on making 45k a year of interest on 150k saving that just doesn't make sense to me. a high performing agressive growth fund usally makes 20-25% a year but u can also lose money if the fund underperformes. also the government taxes any money u make from an interest fund. also it is wierd for someone ur age to retire so young, what are u going to do the rest of ur life?
     
  12. Four Winds

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    The guy above is right.

    If you can sit down and calculate how much money you need for your whole life- trust me, you are way off. It just doesn't work that way, though I know it seems like it should.

    If you don't wanna waste 10 years of your life working- find a career that holds your passion. Do something you love, be something instead of trying to stretch minimum funds for your whole life, because that plan has some major flaws in it.

    I'm not trying to tell you what to do, do what you want, more power to ya. Just don't calcuate things with the naive view of a teenager and expect it to work out.
     
  13. hippieatheart

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    my dad used to work for csx..
    i'm not sure what all they test for, but i know my dad does pills and smokes every once in awhile.. and if he can pass a drug test, then you can too! haha
     
  14. mortes

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    No one has still informed me of how I'm wrong. Clothing heating and electricity are not any bills in themselves. Heating is electric (which is included in the large amount of leeway I've given) clothing (I steal all of mine). Telling me my math is wrong would be one thing, but just saying "it doesn't work that way" does nothing.

    I've lived 2 years on my own. I know how much I need to live. You guys may need more, everyone is different. I NEVER BUY ANYTHING. Read that sentence again. I don't want any item or physical thing in this world to make me happy. I'm done with discussing this.

    Anyone else have any information (other than shifty shampoo products) about hair tests and passing them?
     
  15. ItsJustDex

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    yeah so uhh... about that hairtest.. i needed to have one done... but i was only clean for...... ummm 10 weeks, it was a 12 week track test.. the last time i did drugs was my birthday which i did, OxyContin, Percocet, Kilonapin, and smoke bud.. i was freakin out come time for my hair test, i shaved my whole body bare, except my arm pits, my ass crack, eyebrows and head hair, kept everything i had under half inch.. i go to take the test, im my usual friendly bubbly self, i start shootin the breeze wit the guy doin the test for me, we side on the same things conversationally, we start talkin about the drugs i did when i did them last, bla bla bla, he said dont worry about it, cuz the armpit hair, is alot finer and thinner hair, it holds less history than other hair, so if you ask me, quit smoking for a while, then boom, all the hair on your body except for your arm pit hair goes.. and then just use your armpit hair
     
  16. mortes

    mortes Senior Member

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    Thanks Dex! that's exactly the type of reply I was looking for. I probably won't shave every hair close to the test, but after about 45 days of not smoking I'll get close to it. After that all of my new hair will be THC-free.

    Oh and thanks hippieatheart! It's good to know that you can still smoke with randoms. I kinda knew that though, and just didn't mention it too much. A friend of mine is a correctional guard and he'll smoke whenever he's just taken a test. That'd be the same manner that I think I'd have to do it. Also, I know CSX does randoms, but it might be like 2 times a year, because I've never heard my dad mention a drug test. He doesn't smoke, but regardless he would have said something.


    Lesson to be learned: Appreciate mooching off of your parents as long as you can, and kids if you can, never work. It sucks, trading time for money is not fair, but w/e. Cherish what ya got!
     
  17. Four Winds

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    Quit smoking pot and wait for your hair to grow out, then cut it...

    what else exactly do you need to know? If you dont wanna buy a hair-detox thing, then you have to just wait it out before you take the test.
     

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